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Blazinghand
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On November 17 2012 09:41 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.
My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too. On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.
It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested. On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.
If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself. how The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips??????????? My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call. You were not forced to claim. That's a lie If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim? That's a good question. I can't answer that. But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit ##Vote BH I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that. you should not want to claim at all you (SHOULD) know that
I didn't WANT to claim, I HAD to claim, because I was gonna get mislynched. OR are you saying there's a scum motive that makes sense for my claiming pattern?
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On November 17 2012 09:36 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:35 DarthPunk wrote:On November 17 2012 09:21 Blazinghand wrote:
Honestly, I expect more out of you, not as a scum or town player, but as a player in general and as a person. I guess my first read on you in that game so long ago was correct: SnB is a worthless mafia player. This really isn't necessary BH. I never figured you as one for personal attacks. But I like both you and S&B from what I know of you and this is just unnecessary bullshit IMO. lol wat you never figured bh for personal attacks?
No he has always been super friendly and nice whenever I have interacted with him. I never played with him though. Maybe that is the difference.
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Blazinghand
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On November 17 2012 09:41 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
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My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.
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It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.
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If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you
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how The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips??????????? My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call. You were not forced to claim. That's a lie If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim? That's a good question. I can't answer that. But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit ##Vote BH I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that. JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1?????? Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic? No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb
Wait, did you not already know the timing and nature of my roleclaim? What? ._.
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EBWOP: I actually did play with him when he was smurfing but he was fairly friendly then too.
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On November 17 2012 09:36 debears wrote:
Can we double lynch BH and SnB????
How about no?
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On November 17 2012 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:36 iamperfection wrote:On November 17 2012 09:35 DarthPunk wrote:On November 17 2012 09:21 Blazinghand wrote:
Honestly, I expect more out of you, not as a scum or town player, but as a player in general and as a person. I guess my first read on you in that game so long ago was correct: SnB is a worthless mafia player. This really isn't necessary BH. I never figured you as one for personal attacks. But I like both you and S&B from what I know of you and this is just unnecessary bullshit IMO. lol wat you never figured bh for personal attacks? No he has always been super friendly and nice whenever I have interacted with him. I never played with him though. Maybe that is the difference.
i have a chart with all the mean things bh has said to me in the two games we have played. I had to get another chart.
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Blazinghand
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On November 17 2012 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:36 iamperfection wrote:On November 17 2012 09:35 DarthPunk wrote:On November 17 2012 09:21 Blazinghand wrote:
Honestly, I expect more out of you, not as a scum or town player, but as a player in general and as a person. I guess my first read on you in that game so long ago was correct: SnB is a worthless mafia player. This really isn't necessary BH. I never figured you as one for personal attacks. But I like both you and S&B from what I know of you and this is just unnecessary bullshit IMO. lol wat you never figured bh for personal attacks? No he has always been super friendly and nice whenever I have interacted with him. I never played with him though. Maybe that is the difference.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&user=261213
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On November 17 2012 09:29 debears wrote:
##Unvote
Considering you did tell me twice about the iamp timing thing, there is some hope that you are town
Let's see where this goes.
@SnB
1) You're "scum wouldn't do that' defense is WIFOM. You know this shit. Why even bring it up? Scum can do anything. You know better than that as town
It's not enirely wifom. It's true that there is an element of wifom to it. However, if you agree with me that a play, judged of its own merit, makes no sense as scum play, then to think that I did it and am still scum because of wifom, you have to believe that (a) I played badly on purpose so that I could say "look how bad this play would be". I admit - it is possible that I played "bad on purpose" so that I could say "look how bad that play would be". But making smart plays is always going to be better than making dumb plays and then calling them dumb. Like, if you look at my filter, do you think to yourself "this makes sense for scum to do?" I contend, no. If you look at it and say "wow, there's no way this guy is scum, they wouldn't do that?" Again, I contend no. What I expect you would do is say "wow, this filter is just weird." That's just bad scum strategy.
2) You haven't given any thoughts other than BH for scumreads
This is true. I'm still thinking about whether or not I still think dabears might be scum, and if not who my second scumread would be.
3) "You didn't want to be serious day 1" - Then why did you join the fucking game? You make this game so much harder for those of us who try if you are actually town. That's dogshit and you know it. Give the spot to someone who wants it next time (if you are town)
There are plenty of players who take the whole game non-seriously. And it's not like I wasn't playing at all - I still made reads, told people when they were being stupid, etcetera. But, sorry, I guess? Still, does this make me scum?
Honestly, those 3 points make me want to autolynch you. You're playing the sympathy "boo hoo I didn't want to try" card
I'm not trying for sympathy. I'm being 100% open and honest with you, and explaining my actions.
Also how is "boo hoo I didn't want to try" a card? That just doesn't make sense.
You're either horseshit town or scum. Now, if you are town, show me by making reads damnit
Right now I'm trying to persuade people that my top scum read is scum.
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Blazinghand
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On November 17 2012 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:41 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
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The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips??????????? My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call. You were not forced to claim. That's a lie If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim? That's a good question. I can't answer that. But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit ##Vote BH I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that. JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1?????? Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic? No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb Wait, did you not already know the timing and nature of my roleclaim? What? ._.
Still waiting for an explanation on this, debears. Have you not been reading the thread?
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On November 17 2012 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:41 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
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The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips??????????? My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call. You were not forced to claim. That's a lie If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim? That's a good question. I can't answer that. But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit ##Vote BH I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that. JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1?????? Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic? No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb Wait, did you not already know the timing and nature of my roleclaim? What? ._.
I know the timing of your fucking claim. I knew it made no sense from either perspective. I didn't want to lynch an uncontested jk claim d1 - that's fucking retarded. But honestly, you keep saying it was necessary instead of manning the fuck up and saying your play was just horrible. Your claim was not forced. You were not under real threat. 3 votes midway through d1 =/= real threat
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On November 17 2012 09:46 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:41 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
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My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call. You were not forced to claim. That's a lie If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim? That's a good question. I can't answer that. But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit ##Vote BH I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that. JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1?????? Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic? No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb Wait, did you not already know the timing and nature of my roleclaim? What? ._. Still waiting for an explanation on this, debears. Have you not been reading the thread?
You are being outrageous right now BH
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On November 17 2012 09:37 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:33 DarthPunk wrote:On November 17 2012 09:24 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:12 strongandbig wrote:
okay so BH explain to me
even if we accept that I was somehow lurking or whatever
why does that change your interpretation of my day 1 posting? you were pretty adamant that it meant I was town, and then you completely changed your mind without any explanation whatsoever. Let me break it down for you SnB cause apparently you're not getting it at all. This is the last time I'm responding to your trash posting-- if you convince other people to join your crusade, I'll talk to you again but other than this you're wasting my time. Here's the deadline votecount, with confirmed flips highlighted: DarthPunk (1): thrawn2112 (now djo) Z-BosoN (5): Clarity_nl, marvellosity, Crossfire99, strongandbig, Hapahaulidebears (1): Hopeless1der Hapahauli (6): Z-BosoN, Blazinghand, debears, iamperfection, Kickstart, DarthPunk Now I don't think anyone on the Hapa wagon is a serious lynch target today. I don't personally think it's impossible scum is on the wagon, but it doesn't make a huge amount of sense for scum to bus and lynch Hapa unless they're in a better position than him in terms of town cred. As the votes started to fly, any reasonable scum player would have unvoted him unless they thought they had something to gain by lynching their own godfather last-minute. So I'm gonna say that scum is among the following list:
Djo, Hopeless, Clarity, SnBHopeless is in my mind confirmed not-scum right now. There's some small probability he's the SK, but we don't need to think about that unless the third scum flips and the game isn't over (I think). Really though he's not worth a lynch today at all. Djo replaced in and isn't getting lynched today. That leaves you and Clarity, and my only suspicion on clarity is the same suspicion on Hapa I had D1: He was too accepting of my blue-claim, and too reasonable about it. It's like he already *knew* I was a JK just from the claim. This is why I was trying to lynch Hapa D1 and why Clarity doesn't get a perfect town-read in my book, despite his otherwise solid play. You have no solid play in your favor, SnB. You went from carefree posting to a mixture of lurking and aggressive, big-case posting, which is in fact not your town meta. You're dead today. ZB as well. He couldn't reasonably not vote for HAPA to save himself either. Hm, That's a fair point, and ZB is a claimed Miller which adds some credence to that. Still, I'm not sure scum ZB would have voted Hapa to save himself, especially with Hapa as the gf. I don't think ZB is a good lynch today.
He was the first on the HAPA wagon. He thought he was going to get lynched. If he flipped red he would have set hapa up to be in a really good position. With a flipped on his wagon. But then the very unlikely scenario that hapa was going to get lynched occured, despite all reasonable expectations that a wagon 5 min before deadline would fail. ZB had already laid his WIFOM bombs HAPA being one of them and if he unvoted HAPA after all that to save him it would have damned them both.
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Blazinghand
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On November 17 2012 09:47 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:41 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
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My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call. You were not forced to claim. That's a lie If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim? That's a good question. I can't answer that. But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit ##Vote BH I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that. JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1?????? Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic? No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb Wait, did you not already know the timing and nature of my roleclaim? What? ._. I know the timing of your fucking claim. I knew it made no sense from either perspective. I didn't want to lynch an uncontested jk claim d1 - that's fucking retarded. But honestly, you keep saying it was necessary instead of manning the fuck up and saying your play was just horrible. Your claim was not forced. You were not under real threat. 3 votes midway through d1 =/= real threat
I made the right call, and I stand by it. And if you think my defense of my claim is somehow scummy, you need to explain how "not manning up" is scummy. I'm 100% serious, I want your thought process on this, in detail.
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Blazinghand
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"I'm not an unsportsmanlike guy, look, I was unsportsmanlike in another game, too!"
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On November 17 2012 09:48 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:47 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:41 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
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You were not forced to claim. That's a lie If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim? That's a good question. I can't answer that. But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit ##Vote BH I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that. JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1?????? Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic? No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb Wait, did you not already know the timing and nature of my roleclaim? What? ._. I know the timing of your fucking claim. I knew it made no sense from either perspective. I didn't want to lynch an uncontested jk claim d1 - that's fucking retarded. But honestly, you keep saying it was necessary instead of manning the fuck up and saying your play was just horrible. Your claim was not forced. You were not under real threat. 3 votes midway through d1 =/= real threat I made the right call, and I stand by it. And if you think my defense of my claim is somehow scummy, you need to explain how "not manning up" is scummy. I'm 100% serious, I want your thought process on this, in detail.
You made the right call by making yourself fucking useless the whole game if you are jk? We can't confirm you in any way shape or form. If it gets to LYLO and you're alive we're fucked if you are jk. This is so dumb.
And it's not necessarily scummy. It's not necessarily townie. But idk why you feel like you need to vindicate the play of your claim if you are jk. Ugh.
##Unvote
I hate you right now BH
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Blazinghand
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On November 17 2012 09:48 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:37 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:33 DarthPunk wrote:On November 17 2012 09:24 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:12 strongandbig wrote:
okay so BH explain to me
even if we accept that I was somehow lurking or whatever
why does that change your interpretation of my day 1 posting? you were pretty adamant that it meant I was town, and then you completely changed your mind without any explanation whatsoever. Let me break it down for you SnB cause apparently you're not getting it at all. This is the last time I'm responding to your trash posting-- if you convince other people to join your crusade, I'll talk to you again but other than this you're wasting my time. Here's the deadline votecount, with confirmed flips highlighted: DarthPunk (1): thrawn2112 (now djo) Z-BosoN (5): Clarity_nl, marvellosity, Crossfire99, strongandbig, Hapahaulidebears (1): Hopeless1der Hapahauli (6): Z-BosoN, Blazinghand, debears, iamperfection, Kickstart, DarthPunk Now I don't think anyone on the Hapa wagon is a serious lynch target today. I don't personally think it's impossible scum is on the wagon, but it doesn't make a huge amount of sense for scum to bus and lynch Hapa unless they're in a better position than him in terms of town cred. As the votes started to fly, any reasonable scum player would have unvoted him unless they thought they had something to gain by lynching their own godfather last-minute. So I'm gonna say that scum is among the following list:
Djo, Hopeless, Clarity, SnBHopeless is in my mind confirmed not-scum right now. There's some small probability he's the SK, but we don't need to think about that unless the third scum flips and the game isn't over (I think). Really though he's not worth a lynch today at all. Djo replaced in and isn't getting lynched today. That leaves you and Clarity, and my only suspicion on clarity is the same suspicion on Hapa I had D1: He was too accepting of my blue-claim, and too reasonable about it. It's like he already *knew* I was a JK just from the claim. This is why I was trying to lynch Hapa D1 and why Clarity doesn't get a perfect town-read in my book, despite his otherwise solid play. You have no solid play in your favor, SnB. You went from carefree posting to a mixture of lurking and aggressive, big-case posting, which is in fact not your town meta. You're dead today. ZB as well. He couldn't reasonably not vote for HAPA to save himself either. Hm, That's a fair point, and ZB is a claimed Miller which adds some credence to that. Still, I'm not sure scum ZB would have voted Hapa to save himself, especially with Hapa as the gf. I don't think ZB is a good lynch today. He was the first on the HAPA wagon. He thought he was going to get lynched. If he flipped red he would have set hapa up to be in a really good position. With a flipped on his wagon. But then the very unlikely scenario that hapa was going to get lynched occured, despite all reasonable expectations that a wagon 5 min before deadline would fail. ZB had already laid his WIFOM bombs HAPA being one of them and if he unvoted HAPA after all that to save him it would have damned them both.
That's an okay point but still not a great point. Given the amount of voteswitching happening, ZB going down with a vote on Hapa (as scum) would be a little helpful for hapa, but it was a swingy end-of-d1. It's a reason to keep ZB on the table, but not a reason to lynch him today.
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Blazinghand
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On November 17 2012 09:51 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:48 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:47 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:41 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:
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If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim? That's a good question. I can't answer that. But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit ##Vote BH I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that. JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1?????? Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic? No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb Wait, did you not already know the timing and nature of my roleclaim? What? ._. I know the timing of your fucking claim. I knew it made no sense from either perspective. I didn't want to lynch an uncontested jk claim d1 - that's fucking retarded. But honestly, you keep saying it was necessary instead of manning the fuck up and saying your play was just horrible. Your claim was not forced. You were not under real threat. 3 votes midway through d1 =/= real threat I made the right call, and I stand by it. And if you think my defense of my claim is somehow scummy, you need to explain how "not manning up" is scummy. I'm 100% serious, I want your thought process on this, in detail. You made the right call by making yourself fucking useless the whole game if you are jk? We can't confirm you in any way shape or form. If it gets to LYLO and you're alive we're fucked if you are jk. This is so dumb. And it's not necessarily scummy. It's not necessarily townie. But idk why you feel like you need to vindicate the play of your claim if you are jk. Ugh. ##UnvoteI hate you right now BH
 I'm sorry. I respect that you thought it out and unvoted me even though you would viscerally LIKE to lynch me. Marv was the same-- he put his brain ahead of his gut.
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Blazinghand
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On November 17 2012 09:52 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:48 DarthPunk wrote:On November 17 2012 09:37 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:33 DarthPunk wrote:On November 17 2012 09:24 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:12 strongandbig wrote:
okay so BH explain to me
even if we accept that I was somehow lurking or whatever
why does that change your interpretation of my day 1 posting? you were pretty adamant that it meant I was town, and then you completely changed your mind without any explanation whatsoever. Let me break it down for you SnB cause apparently you're not getting it at all. This is the last time I'm responding to your trash posting-- if you convince other people to join your crusade, I'll talk to you again but other than this you're wasting my time. Here's the deadline votecount, with confirmed flips highlighted: DarthPunk (1): thrawn2112 (now djo) Z-BosoN (5): Clarity_nl, marvellosity, Crossfire99, strongandbig, Hapahaulidebears (1): Hopeless1der Hapahauli (6): Z-BosoN, Blazinghand, debears, iamperfection, Kickstart, DarthPunk Now I don't think anyone on the Hapa wagon is a serious lynch target today. I don't personally think it's impossible scum is on the wagon, but it doesn't make a huge amount of sense for scum to bus and lynch Hapa unless they're in a better position than him in terms of town cred. As the votes started to fly, any reasonable scum player would have unvoted him unless they thought they had something to gain by lynching their own godfather last-minute. So I'm gonna say that scum is among the following list:
Djo, Hopeless, Clarity, SnBHopeless is in my mind confirmed not-scum right now. There's some small probability he's the SK, but we don't need to think about that unless the third scum flips and the game isn't over (I think). Really though he's not worth a lynch today at all. Djo replaced in and isn't getting lynched today. That leaves you and Clarity, and my only suspicion on clarity is the same suspicion on Hapa I had D1: He was too accepting of my blue-claim, and too reasonable about it. It's like he already *knew* I was a JK just from the claim. This is why I was trying to lynch Hapa D1 and why Clarity doesn't get a perfect town-read in my book, despite his otherwise solid play. You have no solid play in your favor, SnB. You went from carefree posting to a mixture of lurking and aggressive, big-case posting, which is in fact not your town meta. You're dead today. ZB as well. He couldn't reasonably not vote for HAPA to save himself either. Hm, That's a fair point, and ZB is a claimed Miller which adds some credence to that. Still, I'm not sure scum ZB would have voted Hapa to save himself, especially with Hapa as the gf. I don't think ZB is a good lynch today. He was the first on the HAPA wagon. He thought he was going to get lynched. If he flipped red he would have set hapa up to be in a really good position. With a flipped on his wagon. But then the very unlikely scenario that hapa was going to get lynched occured, despite all reasonable expectations that a wagon 5 min before deadline would fail. ZB had already laid his WIFOM bombs HAPA being one of them and if he unvoted HAPA after all that to save him it would have damned them both. That's an okay point but still not a great point. Given the amount of voteswitching happening, ZB going down with a vote on Hapa (as scum) would be a little helpful for hapa, but it was a swingy end-of-d1. It's a reason to keep ZB on the table, but not a reason to lynch him today.
EBWOP: well, not alone, anyways
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On November 17 2012 09:52 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 09:51 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:48 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:47 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:41 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:
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That's a good question. I can't answer that.
But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit
##Vote BH I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that. JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1?????? Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic? No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb Wait, did you not already know the timing and nature of my roleclaim? What? ._. I know the timing of your fucking claim. I knew it made no sense from either perspective. I didn't want to lynch an uncontested jk claim d1 - that's fucking retarded. But honestly, you keep saying it was necessary instead of manning the fuck up and saying your play was just horrible. Your claim was not forced. You were not under real threat. 3 votes midway through d1 =/= real threat I made the right call, and I stand by it. And if you think my defense of my claim is somehow scummy, you need to explain how "not manning up" is scummy. I'm 100% serious, I want your thought process on this, in detail. You made the right call by making yourself fucking useless the whole game if you are jk? We can't confirm you in any way shape or form. If it gets to LYLO and you're alive we're fucked if you are jk. This is so dumb. And it's not necessarily scummy. It's not necessarily townie. But idk why you feel like you need to vindicate the play of your claim if you are jk. Ugh. ##UnvoteI hate you right now BH I'm sorry. I respect that you thought it out and unvoted me even though you would viscerally LIKE to lynch me. Marv was the same-- he put his brain ahead of his gut.
Alright. I am not coming back to the thread tonight. I'm gonna look over day 1 cuz right now this is pointless arguing with you
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