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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 00:35 GMT
#2201
On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.


My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.


On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.


It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.

If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself.


how

The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips???????????


My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call.


You were not forced to claim. That's a lie
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 17 2012 00:35 GMT
#2202
On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.


My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.

you were not under heavy pressure, you had a few votes on you. You barely even tried to persuade them otherwise, and what a real VT would've done would have been to ignore a few random votes and actually hunt scum.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.


It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.

for all we know there is only one other blue. Or maybe one claimed, one unclaimed. It's not relevant. We don't know anything about the setup.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.

If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you

you've like never been scum in a normal game. I don't have to show that, I just have to show that (A) you haven't been playing like you do as town, and (B) your play is scum motivated.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself.


how

On November 16 2012 15:17 Blazinghand wrote:
Take a look at the timestamps on those votes, Djodref-- they were all made within the span of the last couple of minutes before the lynch. Nobody knew how many votes where on anyone else and we were getting hit with flood control. Everyone on the Hapa wagon was town.

"It's the torso" "only more so!"
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 17 2012 00:35 GMT
#2203
On November 17 2012 09:21 Blazinghand wrote:
Honestly, I expect more out of you, not as a scum or town player, but as a player in general and as a person. I guess my first read on you in that game so long ago was correct: SnB is a worthless mafia player.


This really isn't necessary BH. I never figured you as one for personal attacks. But I like both you and S&B from what I know of you and this is just unnecessary bullshit IMO.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 17 2012 00:36 GMT
#2204
On November 17 2012 09:33 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.


My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.


On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.


It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.

If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself.


how

The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips???????????


My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call.

bs. Whatever happened to be able to pushing your agenda as town by having the credibility of good scum hunting townie. Those are your coaching tips BH.

You have ZERO creditability this game and you know it.


f I have zero credibility this game, then why aren't you voting me? There's a difference between "BH is playing effectively and well!" and "BH is town!" and honestly the fact that you don't like that I haven't followed my coaching tips well this game seems to be overshadowing the fact that you know I'm town. Well, not overshadowing that much-- you're not voting me-- but I'm town and you know it. So stop insulting me and play the damn game. This entire conversation is about you saying "your claim was shitty" not "your claim is scummy" so I'm done with it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 17 2012 00:36 GMT
#2205
On November 17 2012 09:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:21 Blazinghand wrote:
Honestly, I expect more out of you, not as a scum or town player, but as a player in general and as a person. I guess my first read on you in that game so long ago was correct: SnB is a worthless mafia player.


This really isn't necessary BH. I never figured you as one for personal attacks. But I like both you and S&B from what I know of you and this is just unnecessary bullshit IMO.


Fair enough. I'll save it for the post-game.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 17 2012 00:36 GMT
#2206
On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.


My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.


On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.


It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.

If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself.


how

The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips???????????


My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call.


You were not forced to claim. That's a lie


If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 17 2012 00:36 GMT
#2207
On November 17 2012 09:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:21 Blazinghand wrote:
Honestly, I expect more out of you, not as a scum or town player, but as a player in general and as a person. I guess my first read on you in that game so long ago was correct: SnB is a worthless mafia player.


This really isn't necessary BH. I never figured you as one for personal attacks. But I like both you and S&B from what I know of you and this is just unnecessary bullshit IMO.

lol wat you never figured bh for personal attacks?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 00:36 GMT
#2208
Can we double lynch BH and SnB????
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 17 2012 00:37 GMT
#2209
On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.


My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.


On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.


It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.

If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself.


how

The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips???????????


My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call.


You were not forced to claim. That's a lie


If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim?

OMG

i miss marv
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 17 2012 00:37 GMT
#2210
On November 17 2012 09:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:12 strongandbig wrote:
okay so BH explain to me
even if we accept that I was somehow lurking or whatever
why does that change your interpretation of my day 1 posting? you were pretty adamant that it meant I was town, and then you completely changed your mind without any explanation whatsoever.


Let me break it down for you SnB cause apparently you're not getting it at all. This is the last time I'm responding to your trash posting-- if you convince other people to join your crusade, I'll talk to you again but other than this you're wasting my time.

Here's the deadline votecount, with confirmed flips highlighted:


DarthPunk (1): thrawn2112 (now djo)
Z-BosoN (5): Clarity_nl, marvellosity, Crossfire99, strongandbig, Hapahauli
debears (1): Hopeless1der
Hapahauli (6): Z-BosoN, Blazinghand, debears, iamperfection, Kickstart, DarthPunk

Now I don't think anyone on the Hapa wagon is a serious lynch target today. I don't personally think it's impossible scum is on the wagon, but it doesn't make a huge amount of sense for scum to bus and lynch Hapa unless they're in a better position than him in terms of town cred. As the votes started to fly, any reasonable scum player would have unvoted him unless they thought they had something to gain by lynching their own godfather last-minute.

So I'm gonna say that scum is among the following list:

Djo, Hopeless, Clarity, SnB


Hopeless is in my mind confirmed not-scum right now. There's some small probability he's the SK, but we don't need to think about that unless the third scum flips and the game isn't over (I think). Really though he's not worth a lynch today at all. Djo replaced in and isn't getting lynched today.

That leaves you and Clarity, and my only suspicion on clarity is the same suspicion on Hapa I had D1: He was too accepting of my blue-claim, and too reasonable about it. It's like he already *knew* I was a JK just from the claim. This is why I was trying to lynch Hapa D1 and why Clarity doesn't get a perfect town-read in my book, despite his otherwise solid play.

You have no solid play in your favor, SnB. You went from carefree posting to a mixture of lurking and aggressive, big-case posting, which is in fact not your town meta. You're dead today.


ZB as well. He couldn't reasonably not vote for HAPA to save himself either.


Hm, That's a fair point, and ZB is a claimed Miller which adds some credence to that. Still, I'm not sure scum ZB would have voted Hapa to save himself, especially with Hapa as the gf. I don't think ZB is a good lynch today.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 00:38 GMT
#2211
On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.


My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.


On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.


It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.

If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself.


how

The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips???????????


My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call.


You were not forced to claim. That's a lie


If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim?


That's a good question. I can't answer that.

But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit

##Vote BH
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 17 2012 00:38 GMT
#2212
On November 17 2012 09:36 debears wrote:
Can we double lynch BH and SnB????


Can we be more passive-aggressive and petty?????
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 17 2012 00:38 GMT
#2213
Lol looks like I answered my own question. Debears, what's the deal? I'm an uncontested blue claim and I lynched Hapa. Square the circles.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 00:39 GMT
#2214
Honestly I'm tired of the shit you and SnB have done this game.

Your claim d1 and play makes no sense from either fucking perspective. SnB's play makes no sense from either perspective
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 17 2012 00:39 GMT
#2215
On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.


My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.


On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.


It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.

If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself.


how

The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips???????????


My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call.


You were not forced to claim. That's a lie


If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim?


That's a good question. I can't answer that.

But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit

##Vote BH


I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 00:40 GMT
#2216
On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.


My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.


On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.


It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.

If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself.


how

The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips???????????


My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call.


You were not forced to claim. That's a lie


If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim?


That's a good question. I can't answer that.

But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit

##Vote BH


I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that.


JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1??????

Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 17 2012 00:40 GMT
#2217
On November 17 2012 09:39 debears wrote:
Honestly I'm tired of the shit you and SnB have done this game.

Your claim d1 and play makes no sense from either fucking perspective. SnB's play makes no sense from either perspective


Really, you think my suspicion of Hapa for uncritically accepting my claim, and then my subsequent position on the wagon that lynched him, DOES NOT make sense from a town perspective?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 17 2012 00:40 GMT
#2218
On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.


My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.


On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.


It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.

If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself.


how

The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips???????????


My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call.


You were not forced to claim. That's a lie


If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim?


That's a good question. I can't answer that.

But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit

##Vote BH


I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that.


JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1??????

Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys


I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 17 2012 00:41 GMT
#2219
On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.


My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.


On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.


It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.

If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself.


how

The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips???????????


My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call.


You were not forced to claim. That's a lie


If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim?


That's a good question. I can't answer that.

But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit

##Vote BH


I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that.

you should not want to claim at all you (SHOULD) know that
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 00:41 GMT
#2220
On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And here's something else you're ignoring - your claim makes even less sense from a town point of view. You claimed early in day 1 when you had like three votes on you. If you were town, by doing this you would have unnecessarily ruined your effectiveness as a town power role.


My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too.


On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The argument that your claim is "uncontested" is completely irrelevant. This is not an open setup. I mentioned this above. Your claim is also unverifiable, making it a good claim for scum.


It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested.

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
The thing is, nothing about your behavior in this game resembles your town play. Your cases are terrible, your arguments are terrible, and your thread presence isn't constructive.

If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you

On November 17 2012 09:22 strongandbig wrote:
And I don't have to "defeat" your argument about lynching Hapa. You did that yourself.


how

The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips???????????


My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call.


You were not forced to claim. That's a lie


If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim?


That's a good question. I can't answer that.

But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit

##Vote BH


I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that.


JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1??????

Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys


I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic?


No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb
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