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On November 11 2012 03:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
I still don't get it. Why couldn't I take that sentence and insert dp instead?
"Because darthpunk have been roleblocking at the same time as the scum roleblocker did making him the scum roleblocker an impossible scenario."
Tough question. You gave me something to think about. Okey lets go to step 0. Can they both be telling the truth. That would mean this setup looked like 5-4-3-1 which is impossible, there isn't a setup with this many blues.
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I'm pretty sure there can't be a 4 player scumteam with 2kp. Assuming there were 4 scum the game would give us almost no mislynches. Particulary in the start they would be devestating and normal game is supposed to be balanced around 3 mislynches or so I think. It just seems highly irregular for a non-themed game to be so blue-dependant.
Additionally I looked for scum kp in the OP but it didn't say #/2 rounded up or =1.
The only hints I could find points to 1kp.
One person on the mafia team may carry out the kill each night. The mafia can choose not to kill. The mafia can kill each other. If the mafia member chosen to kill on a particular night is roleblocked, no kill will occur.
You are just a hitman for the mafia and your name is distinctly Italian. Enough talk, just go out there and start killing things. Your family can kill one person per night by choosing one of you to carry out the deed. You win when your family outnumbers the town. You may talk to each other at any time in private by any means you wish; for your convenience, a QT has been provided at (link)
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On October 26 2012 02:31 wherebugsgo wrote:Setup Information ................... Mafia kill power is always 1.
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I just strongly feel DarthPunk as mafia because I find 2 jailors improbable.
An option could be we choose to try to lynch the SK and force DarthPunk to jail mkfuba? Tonight. If a kill goes of DP is scum and we can lynch him. If not that would give us enough lynches to kill both mkfuba & DP. If we mislynch trying to kill the SK today we're in the same scenarios I typed earlier.
1-1-1 (Kingmaker)
2-1-0 (Lylo)
2-0-1 (Lylo)
3-0-0 (Win by default)
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Nobody's here a saturday evening and I have friends to visit while I'm in stockholm. I'll be back to continue this discussion tomorrow.
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If roleblocker X targets player Y and player X is night killed, would player Y still get roleblocked?
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player x = jailor or roleblocker
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seeing as how the thread is probably gonna be slightly focused on setup theory, anyone that's been roleblocked without claiming at any point in this game should come forwards now
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my case on risk is rather simple:
On November 03 2012 22:18 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 06:07 drazak wrote:
risk.nuke has not a lot to go on in his filter, and every single one of his comments is 1 line and most of them are fluffy. I think this is even worse than my posts have been. I find him 2nd scummiest after muso. Pardon but what exactly in my filter do you believe is fluff?
On November 04 2012 01:31 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 01:27 drazak wrote:On November 04 2012 01:09 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 02 2012 20:02 kushm4sta wrote:
Acro Wtf... Why is town fake claiming...
So vts look at your role name. Jessica rabbit does not fit the theme. Kid watching tv kind of does though.
##unvote
##vote acro
Calls Acro town... then votes Acro? I think Kush just didn't think Acro was town at the time, so he's like, "why the fuck are you fake claiming and then saying you fake claimed and then still claim town?" I think it was just incredulity. This just comes from watching a lot of kush's game though and knowing how his troll mind works. Drazek, what was fluff in my post.
On November 05 2012 21:49 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 21:45 drazak wrote:
Sorry, I was sick all weekend, what did you guys want me to do? try voting...
Drazak has been uncooperative and scummy all game. No real point in talking to him.
These three posts seems like attempts to elicit more shit out of Drazak, and ofc Drazak doesn't say anything useful so they make Risk look good.
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Here is the current picture, based only on what people have claimed:
+ Show Spoiler [night actions] +N1
acro rb prom
x rb acro
darth claim rb prom
mattchew probably roleblocked someone, don't see why he wouldn't
zealos... 1 shot, who knows
prom claims rb
acro claims rb
zealos and mattchew die
N2
acro rb release
mkfuba claim jails prom
darthpunk claim jails kush
release claim rb
mkfub claim rb
kush claim rb
no night kills
N3
dp claim jail prom
prom claim rb
acro rb risk
risk claim rb
acro dies
So, who roleblocked Acro during N1?
I don't think that either mattchew/zealos did. Zealos probably wouldn't have used his only shot on D1, and mattchew was not suspicious of not suspicious enough of Acro to rb acro. So who rb'd acro? The D1 night actions are yet another reason I have for thinking that there's a scum roleblocker. It's not confirmable and it's based on a few assumptions, but it's one of the many things that point to there being a scum rb role.
I just really wish I knew who mattchew roleblocked N1. If anyone hasn't done it already they shoudl go look for breadcrumbs zealos/mattchew's filters. I haven't found anything.
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On November 11 2012 04:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
If roleblocker X targets player Y and player X is night killed, would player Y still get roleblocked?
Yes.
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whatever, idgaf about this setup stuff. too many assumptions and too much missing info. plus it's no fun talking to myself about it
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Risk was roleblocked last night, and one person died. That means that either risk is scum, risk is sk, or risk is town and the sk didn't shoot or was roleblocked by somebody else. prom was the only other person roleblocked, but because he was roleblocked N1 that means he can't be the sk.
so that leaves 3 options: scum risk, sk risk, town risk along with an sk who didn't shoot during N3.
So who is the SK? It can't be dp or fuba, otherwise they lied about roleblocking kush/prom N2 and that would mean that kush/prom also lied about getting roleblocked. I'm not sk. Prom isn't sk because he was roleblocked N1.
SK LIST
risk
kush
release
If I had to guess at those.... kush or release as sk makes WAY more sense than risk. Kush has been bluehunting all game, and release has been acting like he's got something to hide. Out of the only 3 players who could possibly be sk, risk makes the least sense. So now I'm down to two options.... scum risk or town risk with an sk who didn't make a kill N3. I'm thinking sum risk.
BTW, If there's a town vig reading this then FUCK YOU
Right now, here is what I think happened. Risk is the last scum and was roleblocked N3. Kush is the sk and took out acro N3.
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here's clarification in case that was hard to follow:
Risk was roleblocked. That leaves only three options.
Risk is scum and the sk killed acro
Risk is sk and scum killed acro
Risk is town and sk didn't kill for whatever reason (by choice or roleblock)
Only risk/release/kush can possibly be sk. + Show Spoiler [sk list] +So who is the SK? It can't be dp or fuba, otherwise they lied about roleblocking kush/prom N2 and that would mean that kush/prom also lied about getting roleblocked. I'm not sk. Prom isn't sk because he was roleblocked N1.
SK LIST
risk
kush
release
Risk is scum and the sk killed acro
Risk is town and sk didn't kill for whatever reason (by choice or roleblock)
The story of who roleblocked who from N3 matches up. Because I think that the sk is either release OR kush, and neither of them got roleblocked during N3, then I think that the sk did in fact kill acro. Out of the three options I listed at the start of this post, there is only one left: Risk is scum and the sk killed acro.
What I think = Risk is scum and kush killed acro.
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but if there's 3 scum and risk is scum, that means we started with 6 blues. wtf
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Is it possible that risk is town and scum/sk targeted prome?
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On November 11 2012 06:20 mkfuba07 wrote:
Is it possible that risk is town and scum/sk targeted prome?
yeah I think. dp claimed to jail prome
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Yeah, DP said that he jailed me. That means that SK/scum could have shot into me and the other into Acro. Which makes sense I guess since both SK and Scum should have been shooting at townies last night and Acro and I were the obvious targets. I would say DP's jail is at least as likely a place for the shot to have gone as Acro's roleblock. You all will have to decide wether you think the shot came from me or was directed at me but since I know that I'm town I have an easier time. Hopefully you realize that I have been roleblocked all three nights and that I could never have shot anyone because of that so I do not = SK, you'll have tot decide if I look like scum or not though.
Thrawn: Matt was a one-shot RB, Zealos was a full jailer. He probably had a town read on Acro and saved him.
My worry with Risk: he hasn't been playing, he had no idea that DP was the roleblocker who claimed to have blocked me N1 and N3 and Kush N2. Risk has not been reading the thread, he has been flying under the radar and now, when an endgame looks possible he comes back. Also: his balance theory is that I should be scum; Risk thinks that in a game with Acro, Matt, Zealos and Risk I would be counted as a vet. I have played five mafia games. Three of them were newbies and one of them I replaced into the fifth was my first and heavily themed. How in the hell am I a vet?
Risk came into today guns blazing, he threw suspicion on everyone until he figured out something that would stick (DP's RB claim) and he kept pushing the idea that killing him would put us in an unwinnable position. He also failed to read the thread when Fuba and I discussed mafia KP, I had missed the total in the OP and Fuba told me it was there. I went back and read it and found it. Risk is an in your face player who plays his own way and doesn't give a shit. This crap is not his town play.
Risk is either SK or Scum and each has one KP. I'm more sure of him than I am of anyone else right now and taking out a KP which has to be anti town (there is only one scum left so SK has to hit town and the scum always shoots against town). As such ##Vote: Risk
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