EPTWhat kind of townie has an agenda?
You don't know what anyone else is, so how can you plan to lynch people? How can you know who to push for sure?
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debears
United States2516 Posts
What kind of townie has an agenda? You don't know what anyone else is, so how can you plan to lynch people? How can you know who to push for sure? | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
On October 27 2012 16:51 Djodref wrote: @ Rad Why are you nor FoSing Alsn ? He was also pushing for a daoud's lynch iirc... I found strange that you forgot him in your recap. It had to do with the order of things. Alsn was suspicious of da0ud (which seems reasonable considering how lurkey da0ud was being) before kush's case (doesn't mean they couldn't have been discussing it in the background, but then they have to be a scumteam). Kush comes out of nowhere and presents a case. This helps confirm Alsn's beliefs so he jumps on the bandwagon right away. The main problem I have with that is 2 votes for da0ud do nothing, and if no one jumps on their bandwagon, they both have to think of someone else to frame and then both have to make it happen quick (assuming in this case inig is the 3rd scum, which is why they'd be bandwagoning on da0ud in the first place). I didn't include him in my recap because I haven't gotten scummy vibes from him and wanted to make sure I at least had specific focus in what was a really long post by me. I do plan on looking into Alsn more. So far he is null to me, though after thinking it through a bit more above, with kush being so scummy looking right now, alsn looks much less so. Still, I need to read through his stuff more. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On October 28 2012 00:34 debears wrote: Cheese, What kind of townie has an agenda? You don't know what anyone else is, so how can you plan to lynch people? How can you know who to push for sure? A towns course of action is to find and unveil the scummiest person--of course town cannot know for sure who to push. In terms of Kush, he is calling you out because he thinks you have conflicting meta. Are you saying it's scummy to do so? Perhaps I don't completely understand your FoS post about the entire meta arguement. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 27 2012 23:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I appreciate your comment, Djodref. A lynch on you was "not possible" so close to the deadline when I returned (~45-30mins before lynch). I did want to get you lynched, but convincing everyone in such a time frame was not possible with everyone on Da0ud/inig. In my vote post of Da0ud I stated clearly that I still considered you highly suspicious, but I had to decide if Da0ud or Inig was a better case. What use is protesting everyone else, "calling them stupid" as you suggest, and pushing my case on you? That is simply advocating chaos in my book, and it's not my way of thinking; I will not flame the entire town for considering two other options than what I would rather pursue so close to deadline. My efforts were best spent deciding who was scummier. Pushing you till the end, and not weighing in on the debate at hand was illogical. This being said, you are still my biggest scumread and my FoS from d1 still applies to you. @ Cheese I think you should have made this kind of explanation at that time. Didn't you feel a little frustrated ? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On October 28 2012 00:47 Djodref wrote: @ Cheese I think you should have made this kind of explanation at that time. Didn't you feel a little frustrated ? Of course I was frustrated. I come back to the thread and votes are stacked high on two other people. But is it really constructive to moan and groan about it? No. As I stated, energy was rather spent contributing to the lynch at hand. If you think crowding the thread with "My god people, why do we have these guys up for lynch?" is a better alternative, then you are sadly mistake. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
@ Kush It seems like you know that both of them were going to be town and wanted to gain town points by opposing both lynches. You could have reproached to have known daoud's alignment. But it looks like that you know Ini's alignment. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 28 2012 00:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Of course I was frustrated. I come back to the thread and votes are stacked high on two other people. But is it really constructive to moan and groan about it? No. As I stated, energy was rather spent contributing to the lynch at hand. If you think crowding the thread with "My god people, why do we have these guys up for lynch?" is a better alternative, then you are sadly mistake. @ Cheese I don't see any kind of frustration in this post. On October 27 2012 08:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Okay I just got back, and will be here pre and post lynch. My thoughts on the current state of affairs. It seems the lynch is in favor of Inig, but Da0ud following close behind. My vote on Djo is obviously not doing any good. I still consider him suspicious, and he is by no means off the hook. My efforts right now are better spent deciding who is a better lynch candidate: Da0ud or Inig. On Inig: Honestly, I have no idea why people suddenly started piling on top of him. I found him -slightly- suspicious after his emotional outburst and semi-lurking. However, since then he has been asking questions (to myself included) and improving his post count. The cases against him are weak, imo. I've read through them I don't see much of a reason to lynch him. His vote on Imcasey I don't view as scum-intentioned; it was an attempt to draw out the lurker. I don't think scum would be that bold, because a vote like that would (and surely did) draw attention. That is not at all blending in. His recent vote on Dandel, however, doesn't make sense from any role viewpoint I think, so I don't know what to think about that. I'll be reading more into his posts about Dandel later. On Da0ud: I skimmed through the cases concerning him, and by my own standards think he is more scummy-looking than Inig. In particular, this post about the modkill. We all saw the modkill. This isn't contributing anything. Why talk about it? A townie died, there's nothing we can do about it, especially since he basically suicided. This is a useless topic. Then, there is the entire percentage-based town read on Djo. I believe Kush mentioned this. 90% town on the first day? I most surely don't see it that way, and a 90% town read based on little concrete evidence? I don't get it. In addition, he's a semi-lurker / blending in. There is also an entire meta-arguement against him as well. I cannot address this as I know nothing of his previous game meta. This being said, I find Da0ud to be much more scummier than Inig. ##Vote: Da0ud I apologize for not being here sooner and for this post being somewhat rushed; I had a personal matter to attend to that required my immediate assistance. In my eyes, it looks like you didn't really care about was going to get lynched. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On October 28 2012 00:52 Djodref wrote: @ Kush It seems like you know that both of them were going to be town and wanted to gain town points by opposing both lynches. You could have reproached to have known daoud's alignment. But it looks like that you know Ini's alignment. I think I see what you mean now, but he's explaining what he believes is your thought process / motivation, not his own. I can't really claim that to be a scumslip. | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
With that out of the way, I managed to stay somewhat updated during the exam and saw the results of the lynch before I left this morning. Da0ud flipping blue makes me a sad panda but on the other hand I don't yet have a clear picture of what exactly happened after I went to sleep so I will need to gather my thoughts before I can comment in more detail. Expect more from me this evening, I'll be staying up until D2 starts so hopefully I'll be able to produce something of value before then. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 28 2012 00:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I think I see what you mean now, but he's explaining what he believes is your thought process / motivation, not his own. I can't really claim that to be a scumslip. @ Cheese townie post: it seems like you knew that both of them would flip town and blabla scumslip post: It seems like you know that both of them were going to be town and blabla But I would agree that it is not a big scumtelll. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On October 28 2012 01:02 Djodref wrote: @ Cheese townie post: it seems like you knew that both of them would flip town and blabla scumslip post: It seems like you know that both of them were going to be town and blabla But I would agree that it is not a big scumtelll. @Everyone What are your thoughts on this "scumtell". I really can't see it being one. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 28 2012 00:02 kushm4sta wrote: I am kind of busy today jacking off and I don't feel liek making cases ATM. I will present my cases before the day post in case I get killed. Also thanks for all your shitty suspicion. I hope it keeps me from getting nk. @ Kush Come on, you know that you never get nkilled when you roll town  You reads are not so good (I'm referring to Looney especially) and you are always a mislynch potential...I don't remember you mentioning the possibility for you to get NKed in the Looney game, even during N3. This one post totally fits your scum meta. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
I didn't mention it in looney. I did mention it in LC. djo is scum btw guys | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 28 2012 01:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Why do you find it necessary to have me frustrated? I wasn't going to project frustration or anger it in this case, because it isn't constructive in the least bit. One of those two people were going to be lynched no matter what I did; I just wanted to steer it in, what I believed, the better direction. I cared about who was being lynched: The one I saw as being scummier looking. @ Cheese You admitted yourself being frustrated at that time. I'm expecting to feel it when I read your post. I'm expecting no more than a little comment like: "I'm regretting that I cannot lynch Djo today blabla". I'm just seeing you stating that I'm suspicious and proceeding to compare daoud and Inig posts. You didn't seem to have any problem with that and that irks me. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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Rad
United States935 Posts
On October 28 2012 01:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: @Everyone What are your thoughts on this "scumtell". I really can't see it being one. I get Djo's point but not sure if I read it as a scumtell. I think it was worth bringing up as a pressure move though. We're all going to be reading kush's posts very carefully and looking for stuff like that. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 28 2012 01:13 kushm4sta wrote: @nk mention I didn't mention it in looney. I did mention it in LC. djo is scum btw guys @ Kush If you are town, I have bad news for you because your reads are one more time completely wrong. First daoud and then me. @ possible vig If you feel like it, just shoot him | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Sorry kush for the last posts, I went a little too far... No hard feelings I hope <3 | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 28 2012 01:13 kushm4sta wrote: @nk mention I didn't mention it in looney. I did mention it in LC. djo is scum btw guys It's true guys, he also does this kind of shit as town On October 06 2012 00:27 kushm4sta wrote: also ty kreb your suspicion saves me from nk Here is a quote from kush from the Liquid City game where he was town... | ||
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