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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 27 2012 18:38 GMT
#801
I participated in the qt but I didn't follow the game close at,all. ,you can see from some of my posts that I have no idea what's going on.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
October 27 2012 18:46 GMT
#802
Looking through Djodref's filter I'm still suspicious of him. Like I argued before the da0ud lynch I think his only redeeming feature is that he's saying a lot of stuff. The vast majority is just casual conversation without much depth and asking random questions without actually providing many of his own thoughts. As things stand right now, I'm definitely going to be looking at Djod during D2 as a possible lynch.

The players that I don't really have much of an opinion on are Inig, cheese, sylver and dandel(and roco....). I need to look through their filters more closely now that I have more time and will definitely do that tonight. Debears behaviour so far(with a few exceptions, notably the outbursts) reads pretty town to me. I don't think I would be able to conclude anything else by scrutinising him any further than I've done so far. Rad also seems slightly town to me, although I haven't looked at him all that much lately.

I'm pretty sure I'll have a clearer picture of all the players before daybreak and should be able to at least post something describing what that picture looks like.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
October 27 2012 18:48 GMT
#803
On October 28 2012 03:38 kushm4sta wrote:
I participated in the qt but I didn't follow the game close at,all. ,you can see from some of my posts that I have no idea what's going on.
Fine then. I'll drop that part of my slight suspicions against you. Barring more information I probably consider you slight town at this point then.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 27 2012 18:54 GMT
#804
@Alsn

Whoa there ...

Within 5 posts, you go from kush is slight scummy, to null, to slight town

On October 28 2012 03:05 Alsn wrote:
Okay, first things first. Da0ud was mislynched, the people who enabled him as a possible lynch target was kush and myself. Arguing about my own motivations is WIFOM hell so I won't go there. That leaves kush as someone I can scrutinise.

I have difficulty accepting that kush preferring da0ud over Inig is somehow a scum tell. Truth be told the lynch targets we had available were all quite weak so he can hardly be blamed for preferring da0ud over someone else. However, two things do stand out to me. Like debears pointed out kush seems to be very selective in the way he argues meta. That in itself isn't necessarily a scum tell, meta reads have a tendency to be more "feel" than anything else. The thing I'm referring to with regards to his meta is his claim that he doesn't know debears meta. That's almost definitely a lie or at the very least some massive laziness, neither of which is very pro-town.

The second point that I can agree can be seen as scummy about kush is that he presented his case against da0ud after I had called da0ud out for making very little sense. Scum using someone else's suspicions against another player is a very easy way to get a case to stick, especially in the situation we had where there was no real clear scum candidate for lynch. However, I would like to point out that I reacted to da0ud's Inig vote very quickly after he posted it. This means that it would be almost impossible for anyone, scum or no, to make an original case against da0ud. To me this means that we can't just jump on kush for using "my idea" to call out da0ud as scummy. I think we can all agree that da0ud was making very little sense at that point in the game and as such I think kush's actions towards da0ud is a null tell at best.

I will look more closely into how kush acted towards other players however. If an argument can be made that preferring da0ud over Inig was actually scummy, then I'd be willing to see it as a scum tell, but with the information we have right now I just can't do that. I'm definitely suspicious about his attempts to discredit debears, so all in all I think kush is leaning towards slightly scummy.


On October 28 2012 03:08 Alsn wrote:
Of course as I'm posting, kush backtracks on his debears statements. I'm going to go ahead and assume him to be genuine for now, basically leaving me at ~null wrt kush.


On October 28 2012 03:48 Alsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 03:38 kushm4sta wrote:
I participated in the qt but I didn't follow the game close at,all. ,you can see from some of my posts that I have no idea what's going on.
Fine then. I'll drop that part of my slight suspicions against you. Barring more information I probably consider you slight town at this point then.


Please explain.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 27 2012 18:56 GMT
#805
EBWOP: I want you to explain your shift to slight town. I can understand the shift from scummy to null.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 27 2012 18:56 GMT
#806
On October 28 2012 03:48 Alsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 03:38 kushm4sta wrote:
I participated in the qt but I didn't follow the game close at,all. ,you can see from some of my posts that I have no idea what's going on.
Fine then. I'll drop that part of my slight suspicions against you. Barring more information I probably consider you slight town at this point then.

What?
He played an ENTIRE game, with debears IN his scumteam, both surviving the whole game.

And you just believe him, because .... Hell, I don't know why you would. You sure as hell didn't say.
Really...
A backwards poet writes inverse.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 27 2012 19:04 GMT
#807
On October 28 2012 03:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 03:48 Alsn wrote:
On October 28 2012 03:38 kushm4sta wrote:
I participated in the qt but I didn't follow the game close at,all. ,you can see from some of my posts that I have no idea what's going on.
Fine then. I'll drop that part of my slight suspicions against you. Barring more information I probably consider you slight town at this point then.

What?
He played an ENTIRE game, with debears IN his scumteam, both surviving the whole game.

And you just believe him, because .... Hell, I don't know why you would. You sure as hell didn't say.
Really...

I did?? wtf
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 27 2012 19:07 GMT
#808
yeah dandel you are right lolll.
I didn't even realize that that was him.

He played like 100% different that game is probably why I didn't connect him with his name.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 27 2012 19:09 GMT
#809
@debears sorry for being such a dick to you. I didn't remember that you were my scumbro that game or else I would have been nicer to you.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 27 2012 19:12 GMT
#810
@kush

On October 11 2012 06:51 kushm4sta wrote:
haha this cheesecake guy seems awesome... i wish i could in this game so badly


On October 11 2012 06:52 kushm4sta wrote:
/obs


On October 16 2012 06:58 kushm4sta wrote:
can an obs replace? if not remove me from obs.
also one of you better afk so I can replace. I love this cheesecake guy...but why did you have to bring up my fail TT


You /obs and then drop /obs JUST in case you get the chance to replace someone.

You've replaced someone. You're in! You can talk to mr. cheesecake now!

Why haven't you said one thing to him or about him yet?
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 27 2012 19:14 GMT
#811
On October 28 2012 04:12 Rad wrote:
@kush

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 06:51 kushm4sta wrote:
haha this cheesecake guy seems awesome... i wish i could in this game so badly


Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 06:52 kushm4sta wrote:
/obs


Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 06:58 kushm4sta wrote:
can an obs replace? if not remove me from obs.
also one of you better afk so I can replace. I love this cheesecake guy...but why did you have to bring up my fail TT


You /obs and then drop /obs JUST in case you get the chance to replace someone.

You've replaced someone. You're in! You can talk to mr. cheesecake now!

Why haven't you said one thing to him or about him yet?


The only reason I would talk to someone is if they ask me a question or if I think they are scum.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 27 2012 19:16 GMT
#812
On October 28 2012 04:14 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 04:12 Rad wrote:
@kush

On October 11 2012 06:51 kushm4sta wrote:
haha this cheesecake guy seems awesome... i wish i could in this game so badly


On October 11 2012 06:52 kushm4sta wrote:
/obs


On October 16 2012 06:58 kushm4sta wrote:
can an obs replace? if not remove me from obs.
also one of you better afk so I can replace. I love this cheesecake guy...but why did you have to bring up my fail TT


You /obs and then drop /obs JUST in case you get the chance to replace someone.

You've replaced someone. You're in! You can talk to mr. cheesecake now!

Why haven't you said one thing to him or about him yet?


The only reason I would talk to someone is if they ask me a question or if I think they are scum.


But you /obs'd, and then asked to be removed for the sole reason of wanting to play with mr. cheesecake.

It makes no sense that you wouldn't at the very lease say something to him when you finally get the chance to play the game for the sole reason you wanted to play the game.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 27 2012 19:17 GMT
#813
On October 28 2012 04:16 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 04:14 kushm4sta wrote:
On October 28 2012 04:12 Rad wrote:
@kush

On October 11 2012 06:51 kushm4sta wrote:
haha this cheesecake guy seems awesome... i wish i could in this game so badly


On October 11 2012 06:52 kushm4sta wrote:
/obs


On October 16 2012 06:58 kushm4sta wrote:
can an obs replace? if not remove me from obs.
also one of you better afk so I can replace. I love this cheesecake guy...but why did you have to bring up my fail TT


You /obs and then drop /obs JUST in case you get the chance to replace someone.

You've replaced someone. You're in! You can talk to mr. cheesecake now!

Why haven't you said one thing to him or about him yet?


The only reason I would talk to someone is if they ask me a question or if I think they are scum.


But you /obs'd, and then asked to be removed for the sole reason of wanting to play with mr. cheesecake.

It makes no sense that you wouldn't at the very lease say something to him when you finally get the chance to play the game for the sole reason you wanted to play the game.


EBWOP: least* not lease
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 27 2012 19:23 GMT
#814
On October 28 2012 04:16 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 04:14 kushm4sta wrote:
On October 28 2012 04:12 Rad wrote:
@kush

On October 11 2012 06:51 kushm4sta wrote:
haha this cheesecake guy seems awesome... i wish i could in this game so badly


On October 11 2012 06:52 kushm4sta wrote:
/obs


On October 16 2012 06:58 kushm4sta wrote:
can an obs replace? if not remove me from obs.
also one of you better afk so I can replace. I love this cheesecake guy...but why did you have to bring up my fail TT


You /obs and then drop /obs JUST in case you get the chance to replace someone.

You've replaced someone. You're in! You can talk to mr. cheesecake now!

Why haven't you said one thing to him or about him yet?


The only reason I would talk to someone is if they ask me a question or if I think they are scum.


But you /obs'd, and then asked to be removed for the sole reason of wanting to play with mr. cheesecake.

It makes no sense that you wouldn't at the very lease say something to him when you finally get the chance to play the game for the sole reason you wanted to play the game.


It was not for the SOLE reason of playing with mr cheesecake. And yes it makes perfect sense that I didn't say anything to him because I had nothing to say. I didn't want to clutter the thread with stuff that wasn't contributing.

Also what would I say? Hey cheesecake I like your name still?

OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 27 2012 19:30 GMT
#815
On October 28 2012 04:23 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 04:16 Rad wrote:
On October 28 2012 04:14 kushm4sta wrote:
On October 28 2012 04:12 Rad wrote:
@kush

On October 11 2012 06:51 kushm4sta wrote:
haha this cheesecake guy seems awesome... i wish i could in this game so badly


On October 11 2012 06:52 kushm4sta wrote:
/obs


On October 16 2012 06:58 kushm4sta wrote:
can an obs replace? if not remove me from obs.
also one of you better afk so I can replace. I love this cheesecake guy...but why did you have to bring up my fail TT


You /obs and then drop /obs JUST in case you get the chance to replace someone.

You've replaced someone. You're in! You can talk to mr. cheesecake now!

Why haven't you said one thing to him or about him yet?


The only reason I would talk to someone is if they ask me a question or if I think they are scum.


But you /obs'd, and then asked to be removed for the sole reason of wanting to play with mr. cheesecake.

It makes no sense that you wouldn't at the very lease say something to him when you finally get the chance to play the game for the sole reason you wanted to play the game.


It was not for the SOLE reason of playing with mr cheesecake. And yes it makes perfect sense that I didn't say anything to him because I had nothing to say. I didn't want to clutter the thread with stuff that wasn't contributing.

Also what would I say? Hey cheesecake I like your name still?



It WAS the sole reason. You wanted to obs, then you backed out because you wanted to get a chance to play with mr cheesecake.

What would you say? Anything to make him talk. He was being hilarious pre-game and you wanted more, so you dropped obs for the CHANCE to play with him.

Why have absolutely no communication with him when that's the main reason you're in this game?

Could it be because you're talking to him behind the scenes?

FoS Mr. Cheesecake

Double FoS Kush
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 27 2012 19:36 GMT
#816
Just noticed something
On October 27 2012 01:13 debears wrote:
@Djo

On Alsn

The main part of Alsn's case is his meta and his FOS on you.

In terms of meta, Alsn has not been fitting his activity and involvement of the last game when he was town. However, he has stated suitable IRL reasons and has recently picked up his activity level with his active discussion with others. Right now, his meta is a null tell.

Then, with the FOS. I believe his FOS was suitable. He was wishy washy quite a bit last game. It seems to me more indicative of his looking at both sides of the motivation behind posts.

Alsn is a null read right now. I expect him to pick up his activity level day 2. If he doesn't, then we can do something about it. Lynching him today is a poor option.


No he didn't, unless it was in your scum qt.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
October 27 2012 19:38 GMT
#817
On October 28 2012 04:36 kushm4sta wrote:
Just noticed something
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 01:13 debears wrote:
@Djo

On Alsn

The main part of Alsn's case is his meta and his FOS on you.

In terms of meta, Alsn has not been fitting his activity and involvement of the last game when he was town. However, he has stated suitable IRL reasons and has recently picked up his activity level with his active discussion with others. Right now, his meta is a null tell.

Then, with the FOS. I believe his FOS was suitable. He was wishy washy quite a bit last game. It seems to me more indicative of his looking at both sides of the motivation behind posts.

Alsn is a null read right now. I expect him to pick up his activity level day 2. If he doesn't, then we can do something about it. Lynching him today is a poor option.


No he didn't, unless it was in your scum qt.
I stated before the game even started that I had university entrance exams today. People even pointed it out.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 27 2012 19:39 GMT
#818
@Rad
It wasn't the sole reason.. I dropped out of obs because I realized I probably couldn't replace if I was in obs.

Can you imagine if I can into the thread and was like yo cheese be more funny. That would be a complete waste of space.

You are doing the scumteam thing again... just stop.
Also you are wifoming really hard.
Your case isn't just bad. It's super amazingly EPICALLY bad. I have never seen a case this bad actually. Well done.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
October 27 2012 19:41 GMT
#819
Link here if you can't find the post.

Also, I'd like to point out that there *is* the possibility of masons in this setup. So even if your premise had been correct(that the information debears referred to was in a QT) the argument could be made for that being a null tell.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 27 2012 19:44 GMT
#820
@alsn you only mention that you will be gone 2 hours before lynch.
Did not realize about masons.. I will drop it.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
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