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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 27 2012 13:38 GMT
#721
EBWOP: Oh, and in case it wasn't clear enough, I still think Inig is scum.
And I also think he's in a scumteam with Kush.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 27 2012 13:47 GMT
#722
Don't reference the pony thread in this thread, or this thread in the pony thread.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 27 2012 13:50 GMT
#723
@Kush

If you want a meta read on me, do it yourself.........
You were in both of my last two games, unlike anyone else here.

Vote analysis coming up soon
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 27 2012 13:54 GMT
#724
I was out of that newbie game so quickly that I have no idea what your meta is.. That other game you seemed totally different.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 27 2012 13:55 GMT
#725
haha @ all the people theorizing scumteams.

you're being dumb
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 27 2012 14:03 GMT
#726
On October 27 2012 21:52 kushm4sta wrote:
I know he's playing in the game and so am I... the game hasn't started yet though. He needed a fresh breath of pony mafia air because of the depressing shit that happened in this thread.

Djo I have not really put a lot of time into reading the thread and looking at filters, but my primary suspect just from preliminary observations is you.
I think your indecision at lynch time is a huge scumtell. It seems like you know that both of them were going to be town and wanted to gain town points by opposing both lynches. If you were town, and you really thought that none of them were scum, you would have tried to push someone who you actually thought was scum. But you did nothing except ask sylver endless questions with really no point to them.


@ Kush

I have said quite early that I didn't want to lynch daoud. I've changed my mind on Inig given his latest posts. I had no time to consider a better lynch target. Roco would have been fine (policy lynching) but we were all assuming that he was going to be modkilled.

debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 27 2012 14:15 GMT
#727
Vote chart in the spoiler. Notice how no one unvotes dau0d the entire time? Kush even said his case wasn't that great. If the guy who made the case said it isn't that great, Then why are so many certain of Dau0d's scumminess over Inig?

+ Show Spoiler +
Djo
2. CC
6. Alsn ----UV 10

Inig
1. Djo---- UV 9
4. Dandel
7. Dau0d
12. Me
13. Rad ----UV 17

Dau0d
8. Kush
11. Alsn
16. Sylverfyre
19. Cheesecake
20. Rad
22. Inig
23. Djo

Roco69
5. Sylverfyre

imcasey
3, Inig

Dandel
15. Inig ----UV 21


The above chart has numbers to indicate the order of vote/uv actions
The most important votes, in my opinion, are numbers 8, 9, 15, 16, and 19

8 - kush comes in as replacement. Makes only one read despite being a replacement and sticks with it (I feel that replacements as town would post thoughts on more than 1 player. They have a lot more leniency since they have an outside perspective and they have to catch up)

9 - Djo unvotes Inig, who was leading the vote by 3-1 until the unvote. This was the start of the swing to Dau0d. Also, Djo flip flopped from Inig = scummy, then town, then suspicious

15 - Inig's vote on Dandel. It was his second vote parked on someone uselessly. It made no sense from a town perspective

16 - Sylver votes Dau0d. until this vote, Inig was leading voting 4-2. This vote put the swing in reach

19 - CheeseCake votes Dau0d. This vote made the lynch count 4-3, making Dau0d the leading vote getter

Right now, these are the most suspicious votes I will pursue.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 27 2012 14:16 GMT
#728
@Kush

Seeing as you came in as a replacement. Did you have any other reads besides Dau0d?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 27 2012 14:19 GMT
#729
"That being said, you were my best scum read at the time; but there was no chance of you being lynched."

@ Cheese

Here is a quote from you.

On October 26 2012 12:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
/snip
The constant asking for info on Ingi / diverting attention, his useless "are you mafia?" question that I pointed out earlier, the inability to adequately answer some of the accusations/questions thrown at him. It doesn't add up. Actually, it does add up. I'm thinking he's scum. I've had a FoS on you for quite some time now, Djodref. Time to upgrade it.

##Vote: Djodref


As you can see, I was a little more than your best scumread. Nevertheless, you gave little to no protest about lynching daoud or ini over me. Big scumtell in my book.
Have a look at debears reactions when people started to vote daoud. He was trying to push his case until the end.This commitment is a big towntell.
Where was your reaction when you came back to thhe tread and realized that a lynch on me was "not possible" ?
No protest, no comments about other people being stupid or whatever, not trying to push my lynch.

And you proceeding to compare the percentage daoud and Ini were giving for their townread on me to decide who to lynch between the two... do you have any comments to do on this ?

FoS Cheese


Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 27 2012 14:23 GMT
#730
On October 27 2012 21:52 kushm4sta wrote:
I know he's playing in the game and so am I... the game hasn't started yet though. He needed a fresh breath of pony mafia air because of the depressing shit that happened in this thread.

Djo I have not really put a lot of time into reading the thread and looking at filters, but my primary suspect just from preliminary observations is you.
I think your indecision at lynch time is a huge scumtell. It seems like you know that both of them were going to be town and wanted to gain town points by opposing both lynches. If you were town, and you really thought that none of them were scum, you would have tried to push someone who you actually thought was scum. But you did nothing except ask sylver endless questions with really no point to them.


@ Kush

scumslip much ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 27 2012 14:24 GMT
#731
EBWOP: we don't know yet the alignment of Ini
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 27 2012 14:31 GMT
#732
@ debears

Regarding my flip-flopping about Inig, I thought that he didn't deserve a lynch after his answer to my case.
Another problem is that he has said and done some scummy things but I am feeling him being sincere when he posts.
I didn't know what to do with him, hence all my wish-washiness about him.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 27 2012 14:35 GMT
#733
On October 27 2012 22:55 kushm4sta wrote:
haha @ all the people theorizing scumteams.

you're being dumb


@ Kush

If you are town, I recommend you to refrain from posting this kind of stuff. I have been provocative in this game and I regret it. You could be tunneled forever for this kind of post.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 27 2012 14:37 GMT
#734
On October 27 2012 23:35 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 22:55 kushm4sta wrote:
haha @ all the people theorizing scumteams.

you're being dumb


@ Kush

If you are town, I recommend you to refrain from posting this kind of stuff. I have been provocative in this game and I regret it. You could be tunneled forever for this kind of post.

I WILL tunnel him forever.
His play is painted in red, and then this response?

Yeah, he's scum.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 27 2012 14:39 GMT
#735
@Djo

I'll address your actions after I address Kush's. Something that hasn't been pointed out about him yet that's very odd.

Anyways

@Everyone

Association cases are worthless until a flip. Even in the lategame, without a flip they aren't the greatest. Stop it
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 27 2012 14:40 GMT
#736
On October 27 2012 23:19 Djodref wrote:
"That being said, you were my best scum read at the time; but there was no chance of you being lynched."

@ Cheese

Here is a quote from you.

Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 12:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
/snip
The constant asking for info on Ingi / diverting attention, his useless "are you mafia?" question that I pointed out earlier, the inability to adequately answer some of the accusations/questions thrown at him. It doesn't add up. Actually, it does add up. I'm thinking he's scum. I've had a FoS on you for quite some time now, Djodref. Time to upgrade it.

##Vote: Djodref


As you can see, I was a little more than your best scumread. Nevertheless, you gave little to no protest about lynching daoud or ini over me. Big scumtell in my book.
Have a look at debears reactions when people started to vote daoud. He was trying to push his case until the end.This commitment is a big towntell.
Where was your reaction when you came back to thhe tread and realized that a lynch on me was "not possible" ?
No protest, no comments about other people being stupid or whatever, not trying to push my lynch.

And you proceeding to compare the percentage daoud and Ini were giving for their townread on me to decide who to lynch between the two... do you have any comments to do on this ?

FoS Cheese


I appreciate your comment, Djodref. A lynch on you was "not possible" so close to the deadline when I returned (~45-30mins before lynch). I did want to get you lynched, but convincing everyone in such a time frame was not possible with everyone on Da0ud/inig. In my vote post of Da0ud I stated clearly that I still considered you highly suspicious, but I had to decide if Da0ud or Inig was a better case. What use is protesting everyone else, "calling them stupid" as you suggest, and pushing my case on you? That is simply advocating chaos in my book, and it's not my way of thinking; I will not flame the entire town for considering two other options than what I would rather pursue so close to deadline.

My efforts were best spent deciding who was scummier. Pushing you till the end, and not weighing in on the debate at hand was illogical. This being said, you are still my biggest scumread and my FoS from d1 still applies to you.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 27 2012 14:40 GMT
#737
Guys although the manner in which he expressed it wasn't great. His point is valid
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 27 2012 14:40 GMT
#738
ebwop

in regards to kush on associations
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 27 2012 14:40 GMT
#739
On October 27 2012 23:23 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 21:52 kushm4sta wrote:
I know he's playing in the game and so am I... the game hasn't started yet though. He needed a fresh breath of pony mafia air because of the depressing shit that happened in this thread.

Djo I have not really put a lot of time into reading the thread and looking at filters, but my primary suspect just from preliminary observations is you.
I think your indecision at lynch time is a huge scumtell. It seems like you know that both of them were going to be town and wanted to gain town points by opposing both lynches. If you were town, and you really thought that none of them were scum, you would have tried to push someone who you actually thought was scum. But you did nothing except ask sylver endless questions with really no point to them.


@ Kush

scumslip much ?


How is that a scumslip, Djo?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 27 2012 14:43 GMT
#740
On October 27 2012 23:40 debears wrote:
Guys although the manner in which he expressed it wasn't great. His point is valid

My case is more than just an association case. How well the association fits in is just a bonus.
Compare my "association case" to what Inig tried to pull off.
And tell me it's really the same level of badness.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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