EPT- Decide if Nisani is really scum: I'm hesitant to say yes, at the moment, as Nisani is someone who I feel is easy to mislynch. Most of my time tomorrow will be spent analyzing his play and reading the cases against him.
- Figure out what's going on with S+B: Seriously, what's going on there.
- Try and understand what XFire has been spending so much time in thread defending me: I'm grateful, but I don't get it.
- Continue to push Keirathi: Tunnel vision, engage!
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Mattchew
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Ghost, Xfire was the hammer on the iamperf lynch, theres very few things that almost confirm town, but this is one of them | ||
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gonzaw
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He usually seems to make those "derpy" posts where he spouts a bunch of unrelated stuff that come to his mind without punctuation and stuff as town, like this one from GSL 2: On September 27 2012 05:27 strongandbig wrote: hey okay so i just reread the whole thread it is assfuckingly short lets get some more shit out there, okay terrible mixing of metaphors there but whatever anyway here's what I think - at first I thought sinensis was scum because he's not being a huge dick but then i realized i was confusing him with sinani. there goes that whole post. so now i think ottoxlol is maybe scum because he posts a bunch of short posts but doesn't really say much of substance. austinmcc always posts like a billion things. shiaopi i am calling you out. last game we played together you derped your way through because you were blue, then you solved the game but it was too late. If you're town I call on you to play this whole game for reals even if you are blue, you've shown you can do good analysis (even if your case wasn't very well presented, you did solve the game) so people are going to want you to keep doing it now. what do you think about ottoxlol. The thing is that I never saw him doing it every single post as in this one. I remember him posting with a similar "I don't care" attitude in Can't Believe, but now that I go back and read it he was 100x times more helpful and contributed even though I found him scummy all D1/N1. The thing that bothers me is that it's possible he's legitimately busy or doesn't care as town. Seems unlikely to me but it's enough of a possibility that makes me want to lynch Nisani more. What really made me doubt lynching him was him explaining his "night action went through". I see no reason for him to do this as scum, since at some point he will have to explain what that action was and he would have to lie (unless he wants to claim he RBed or Framed someone or something like that). Why would scum give himself a burden without any reason? I did think about how he, as scum, could say that to appear more townie and fearless and make us WIFOM about it....but still, it's something that just tells me "damn this seems wrong" about lynching him. It's not enough to exonerate him or anything, it's just something that comes up that throws some doubt into all of this. Hmm, now that I think about it: S&B, can you tell us what that night action you had was? I don't know if that answer would do good or not, but if he has a shitty role with a shitty action that can be verifiable I don't see how it can hurt. If he's a town medic or something it obviously won't....but him being that seems unlikely. About Nisani, well I couldn't really say since I don't remember any games where he was town (I only remember him from Aperture where he was scum/SC). The thing is that "not being productive" is not the only thing that makes me (and others I guess) suspicious of him. It's what he has posted, how he "tried" to contribute, and how little he's been on anybody's radar, whether he's being productive or not (for instance Drazerk isn't being productive at all, yet he's not "under the radar" at all and doesn't try to blend in). Anyways, let's see what other people think. I don't think Hiro, ghost, Jingle, Drazerk nor Keirathi weighed in on Nisani nor S&B. | ||
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HiroPro
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I want to lynch nisani. This was nisani's reason for thinking gonzaw's case on s&b (referring to that part of gonzaw's post on s&b's big day 1 reads post) is good: His case on snb is good because he actually pointed out what he did that was scummy: snb's lack of commitment in any of his posts. Even in his recent post he has a bunch of "maybe" reads. Scum don't like to commit. The thing is if you look at Nisani's other scum reads though, when you leave aside Drazerk who he's basically called scum the entire game on barely anything; all of his scummy reads are mostly "maybe reads". Ghost is stupid for voting Keirathi in the beginning. He has Mementoss on "his radar" and then never mentions him again for the rest of day 1.He tries to build up on gonzaw and then later he just backs off abruptly. There's no real backing behind any of these reads; they just exist momentarily then disappear. Then the way he defends himself from gonzaw and Mattchew strikes me as really scummy - he doesn't try to further explain how he's thinking about certain things or how his reads have formed, it's just biting back saying that the accusations are dumb. ##Vote Nisani201 | ||
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Drazerk
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Did you really expect Nisani over the other choice from me? | ||
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ghost_403
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On October 04 2012 11:06 ghost_403 wrote: I'm really sorry I've been so busy, I fully intend to catch up tomorrow. Items on the agenda include
Alright, off to Nisani's filter. If I don't think Nisani is scum, I'll be voting S+B, because I don't think enough people will vote Keirathi today. | ||
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ghost_403
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##vote strongandbig at least for the time being. | ||
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gonzaw
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However there wasn't any additional KP last night, so we can assume if there's a 3rd party it's not a SK kind of role right? Maybe it's more of a survivor, or like someone said a lyncher (and he has to get Drazerk lynched for instance). I wanted to see if someone claimed JKed or shot because of this as well, to see if there are additional KPs flying around. If the 3rd party has no KP, shouldn't we focus on killing scum that have KP? Hmm, I'm kind of torn about it, but it does seem like Nisani scum and S&B 3rd party are possible. I just can't comprehend S&B's play this game. Anyways, Jingle and Keirathi, you guys have effectively spend all D2 FoSing me and nothing else, and right now you are wasting your votes and not contributing at all. Wtf dudes? | ||
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strongandbig
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Sorry that I've been busy. I've been basically trying to avoid being modkilled. I was at home on vacation and spending time with my family and friends. Now I'm back at work and adjusting to jetlag, so still not the best playing conditions, but hopefully a little better. I really do think that nisani is scum though. I'll roleclaim. I am ATLAS. I breadcrumbed this earlier when I /shrugged. My role is "reverse hider" - basically it's a bodyguard, I have extra lives and if my target gets shot I take the hit instead. Last night I took a scum hit that was aimed at someone else. I can do the same thing tonight. My role says that since P-BODY and I are "so in sync", whoever P-BODY targets with their ability I also target with my ability. I don't know what P-BODY's ability is, however, and I don't know if their ability also targets the person I target my ability at. So I know that last night I took a hit that was aimed at someone else. However, I don't know if it was aimed at the person I targeted, beacuse it could have been aimed at the person P-BODY targeted. I don't even know if P-BODY is town. I am working on the assumption that they are, however, since having my power target a scum target doesn't make much sense to me. It's possible though. I also am assuming that P-BODY is town because of flavor - ATLAS and P-BODY are test takers, and GLaDOS's flavor as well as mine indicate that the town is the people taking the tests, and the scum are the people making the tests. I'm unsure whether P-BODY should claim at this point. On the one hand, it would mean outing themselves - although they don't necessarily have to claim what their power is, and since everyone in this game probably has a power of some sort it wouldn't necessarily mean they're making themselves a scum blue-snipe target. But since I don't know P-BODY is town, he doesn't know if I'm town either. All he could confirm is if he knows that the ATLAS role exists, and if the thing I'm saying about targets is true if he also has that. If he is also town then he could also confirm my flavor speculation, about the test-makers being scum and the test-takers being town. If you believe that line of reasoning, then ATLAS and P-BODY have to be town if those roles exist, and therefore confirming that the roles exist would help people not lynch me. So for the moment, I think P-BODY should wait to see how people react to the roleclaim and only claim themselves if it looks like I'm still the main lynch target and they think claiming would help keep me from getting lynched. | ||
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gonzaw
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Who was your target that was shot? I don't see any reason to not claim since scum would shoot him anyways, and it may semi-confirm him as town as well (unless he was shot by a SK-type role). When P-BODY targets player X and you target player Y, then it means both you and P-Body target both X and Y at the same time? Or did I get that wrong? Another thing: If scum shoot you directly, do you take a hit to your "extra lives" as well? Or do you die instantly? Hmm, well, I don't see why we shouldn't lynch Nisani today, unless in a weird state of events he claims P-Body (but I heavily doubt it). Also, again like always I'm leaving to uni until after the deadline (cue Jingle FoSing me again). I'm leaving in about 1 hour or so. | ||
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