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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 04 2012 16:50 GMT
#581
drazerk why won't you tell us your role name
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 16:51 GMT
#582
Because role names have no say on alignment how do you not know this yet?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 04 2012 16:51 GMT
#583
On October 05 2012 01:48 strongandbig wrote:
Gonzaw I've said - I don't know whether or not P-BODY is town or scum or third party. I'm guessing he's town because of the flavor - I think the odds are good but I don't think it's conclusive and you can't treat it as 100% that the people claiming those are the same alignment.


If someone claims P-Body it confirms both your roles.
It means you weren't lying your ass out there when you are in fact "Aperture Turret Nº 2" or something like that.
It proves you are ATLAS and it proves the other guy is P-BODY (and if you are both scum making a gambit, surely another ALTAS/P-BODY can claim or you'd get found out very easily)

That's a lot of information that helps town tremendously, and it also puts a lot of pressure on both of you (so you keep your promises with night actions and stuff, and you keep up contributions and shit) to help us figure out your real alignments.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 04 2012 16:52 GMT
#584
gonzaw how do you know the numbers of the scum team?

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 04 2012 16:53 GMT
#585
On October 05 2012 01:51 Drazerk wrote:
Because role names have no say on alignment how do you not know this yet?


Yeah, because GlaDOS could obviously be town.

You may have been given a fake-claim as scum, it's a possibility; but if you are scum I want you to take the chance and expose yourself (even then there may be inconsistencies with what you claim and your own abilities. For instance if you claim "Companion Cube" I couldn't possibly believe you would be a vig, so we lynch you)

Give us your role name
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 04 2012 16:53 GMT
#586
On October 05 2012 01:52 Mattchew wrote:
gonzaw how do you know the numbers of the scum team?



I'm assuming they are 3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 16:54 GMT
#587
On October 05 2012 01:53 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:51 Drazerk wrote:
Because role names have no say on alignment how do you not know this yet?


Yeah, because GlaDOS could obviously be town.

You may have been given a fake-claim as scum, it's a possibility; but if you are scum I want you to take the chance and expose yourself (even then there may be inconsistencies with what you claim and your own abilities. For instance if you claim "Companion Cube" I couldn't possibly believe you would be a vig, so we lynch you)

Give us your role name


This is horrible logic lol

Its bread crumbed somewhere in my posts - go find it
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 04 2012 17:00 GMT
#588
Is there a reason for you not to tell us your role name?
The only reason I can think of is that it would give scum an idea of what powers you may have. But you already outed your ability so that shouldn't worry you



Anyways, seems Nisani still hasn't shown up at all. Good, let him hang.

Also I get the feeling this discussion will get us into a giant shitstorrn where we'll end up lynching Drazerk or S&B or maybe a P-BODY claimer or something.
I still want people to consider Nisani when we are talking about all this.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 17:01 GMT
#589
I just hate people who presume role crap like names meaning alignment since I've actually lost a game by that type of assumptions
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 17:01 GMT
#590
I'm inclined to believe s&b. the claim just feels too...exact...to be fabricated.

The only ways I see it being fake are :

1) There is no pbody

This is a possibility, but I just remembered something. Check the callee game sometime around night 1 in the aperture mini-game. There was a smurf named pbody that posted something like "beep boop". Afaik, that was before roles went out, so I don't think it could have been s&b faking it. MAYBE s&b saw it and made up some elaborate story, but I doubt it.

2) he is scum with pbody

First, bodyguard makes much more sense as a town role. And second, after losing gf day 1, I don't really suspect scum s&b of giving up himself and his teammate on day 2. I think this is a pretty unlikely scenario.

3) he could be scum while pbody is town

This is a distinct possibility, but still I feel like bodyguard with multiple lives is more of a town role. At the very least, I wouldn't wan to lynch him today.


For now,

##vote: nisani201
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 04 2012 17:03 GMT
#591
Meh whatever, it doesn't matter. The deed is done, you refused to tell us your role name, you can't change that no matter what you do and you'll obviously claim some "town" role now no matter your alignment (this is surely enough time for you to ask for a safe-claim as scum). I'd really like it if you do though (even as scum).

I suggest we let S&B live as long as these 2 conditions are met:
1)P-Body claims at some point (preferably soon) and confirms S&B's role
2)We let S&B confirm himself by using his night action. At worst if he's scum it means he'll either out himself or scum won't be able to kill the most pro-town guys (since S&B would supposedely be protecting him).
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 17:03 GMT
#592
FAKE CLAIMING IS SO EASY BECAUSE YOU JUST ADD DETAILS AND ROLE INFO T_T
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 17:03 GMT
#593
P.S. phone typing fucking sucks
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 04 2012 17:04 GMT
#594
Sorry I've been vanished, my kid's not feeling good. Are we seriously going to kill the guy it's easy to attack over Gonzaw, who happens to be adding role fishing to the giant list of reasons to kill him?
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 17:06 GMT
#595
Oh, formatting:

##unvote
##vote: nisani201
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 17:07 GMT
#596
Lets go for this -

Crystal Maiden


Born in a temperate realm, raised with her fiery older sister Lina, Rylai the Crystal Maiden soon found that her innate elemental affinity to ice created trouble for all those around her. Wellsprings and mountain rivers froze in moments if she stopped to rest nearby; ripening crops were bitten by frost, and fruiting orchards turned to mazes of ice and came crashing down, spoiled. When their exasperated parents packed Lina off to the equator, Rylai found herself banished to the cold northern realm of Icewrack, where she was taken in by an Ice Wizard who had carved himself a hermitage at the crown of the Blueheart Glacier. After long study, the wizard pronounced her ready for solitary practice and left her to take his place, descending into the glacier to hibernate for a thousand years. Her mastery of the Frozen Arts has only deepened since that time, and now her skills are unmatched.

You win with Dire.

Fiery passion: You may sleep with one MALE hero in the game killing them with your fiery heat.

Boom looks official has details and is in no way accurate to what Crystal maiden actually does.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 04 2012 17:07 GMT
#597
On October 05 2012 02:03 Drazerk wrote:
FAKE CLAIMING IS SO EASY BECAUSE YOU JUST ADD DETAILS AND ROLE INFO T_T


How do you fake night protections and how do you fake nobody shooting at you even though you claimed vet/medic that lost 1 life (and most likely doesn't have any other)?
How do you fake someone else claiming P-BODY for you? Again, if your scumbuddy claims P-BODY for you, how can you be sure there isn't an actual ATLAS or P-BODY role out there and you'll be cc'ed? And how do you escape the fact that none of you will die by KP and have to explain that, and as soon as 1 of you dies the other one becomes basically confirmed scum?


If he's fake-claiming...well I could see scum having 1 bullet-proof at night or "vet"-type role, although he'd have to lie about all the rest (about protecting Hiro and stuff).
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 17:08 GMT
#598
How do we know scum haven't been given safe claims?
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
October 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#599
P-Body doesn't even have to reveal the details of his role, just has to claim.

Since P-Body isn't claiming, it's safe to assume that snb is lying out of his ass. Going to agree with drazerk on this one.
Enjoy your day.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#600
On October 05 2012 02:08 Drazerk wrote:
How do we know scum haven't been given safe claims?


Well I don't know, why don't you claim your role name so we find out?
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