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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 19:56 GMT
#1059
don't. be. retarded.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 19:57 GMT
#1063
I've had not proper case, no time to defend myself, this lynch is completely unfair on me who've been scumhunting all game. Debears was fucking flimsy in his reads on me.

1) Lynch debears because of everyfucking thing we've had against him till day 3.
2) don't lynch me because I have a bullshit case on me that came out of fucking nowhere.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 19:59 GMT
#1068
RSC I told SCUM that a NK on DP would be risky from a scum POV.
I also said I'm coming for you D2 towards debears before the end of the night ---> if he was scum it's likely that he would shoot me
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 20:00 GMT
#1070
I also boasted confidence compared to my usual "I will die" posts. I will show you in case this game goes on more than today.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 20:00 GMT
#1071
SDM, VOTE DEBEARS
OMG PLEASE MAN
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 20:01 GMT
#1074
SDM!!!!
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#1077
Horrible, horrible, horrible fucking play. Jesus Christ. I wake up and there's this bullshit wagon on me.
I was even considered getting lynched when there wasn't a SINGLE DECENT case I could respond to in time. Have you not read why it would have been completely ridiculous for me to do what I did this game as scum? Are you out of your fucking minds?
This was too much. Idiot town made me force claim a role that would potentially keep me alive until the end game, based on SHIT and with absolutely ridiculous cases on me. Sure you'd like to feel smart into thinking that I'm scum wouldn't you? Yea I'm such a fucking genious but you guys, nah, you guys are smart. Blindly following a scum motivated wagon based on absolute vomit.
Really, this was just ballsout retarded. Take a time to review how fucked up this bandwagon on me is.
I'm gonna take some time to cool off, this was too fucking much.
SDM, nice job going full retard.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 21:07 GMT
#1084
As such:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370487&currentpage=31#603
I'm coming for you d3, and I will see to that


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16429599
I don't want to spend the rest of d3 looking for a false read


(made right after during night 2 post)

Once I was already done shot in night 1, I was pretty much set for the rest of the game, because scum wouldn't risk shotting a SK. Also here's my if I die post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370487&currentpage=23#453

When I am under threat of death I usually leave off much much more, refer to LVII what I did when I pretty much knew I was going to die.

Of course, scum, I can still be SK

.
.
.

pshtt.. town... over here.... + Show Spoiler +
Don't say this out loud, but don't you think I am scumhunting way too much more than I would need to if I am a SK? Also, can you please think a little bit and realize that it was completely retarded for me to have to claim?

Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 21:19 GMT
#1086
Yea right now it's pretty much confirmed debears. I'm guessing the last mafia is godfather, because that would make Cop useless, and medic + veteran vs. godfather makes sense.
Claiming cop, without thinking too much about it, seems stupid as framer/godfather (and the odds are high these are the last roles remaining), as there are high odds there is a real one.
GG debears! I wish I had been more insistent on you.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 21:52 GMT
#1087
Oh lol. Thought there was.

Anyways, forgot about this one. From my POV n1, me and DP were the most likely hit targets. This is me trying to bait it towards me:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=445&topic_id=370487
It makes more sense than for scum to have shot DP twice. Scum prob thought the medic was saving me.

My view on Djodref's claim is, unless we get to mylo where things get nasty, we should encounter it as legit.

Shady Sands, in my eyes, is the only one who has a fair chance of being scum. We lynch debears, we lynch SS, we should be fine.

Please don't be retarded and still find me scum after this. DP had a town meta read on me, and he's played in all my games. Much more trustworthy than a debears "lololol scum ZB posts in red!1" one.
Now that the pressure is off, read my filter carefully and try to think why in the godamn hell would I take so muhc trouble to switch between townies, when it's 100 times easier (and safer) for me to stick with one. Also read my cases and tell me how in a million years they can even be compared to the ones on debears. Also, my claim makes a lot of sense. It's why I've been more aggressive and confident this game.

There's this one other post I recall where I stated I had my own reasons for going after debears, but I can't find it, don't remember what to control+F and I don't think it's worth the trouble. My original plan was to claim having been shot n1 and using that as an argument to go full throttle against debears, whom I've been tunneling during day 1, but then I had decided this was a pretty bad argument and would lose my ticket to not being nk (I was thinking that there could be SK).

Anyways, we should be good now. If debears or shady sands is medic, claim and seal the game 100%. Otherwise, just stick with debears and we should be fine.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 22:15 GMT
#1088
Hold up. I'm using bad logic.
If there were two goons, then a cop role would be very useful. 2/3 chance of getting it right when checking scum is pretty good. However what also makes sense is there being 3 goons, and that would make it safer to claim cop.
Cop + medic + veteran vs two goons and a godfather/framer
seems a bit more imba than
medic + veteran vs. three goons.
However, we still have three lynches till defeat.
debears -> shady -> Djodref should seal us the game.
I cannot for the life of me view SDM and RSC as scum right now. If one of you is, well, well played, win deserved.
Now all it takes is for town to put on reality goggles, realize why it is dumb for me to be scum, and seal the deal.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 23:05 GMT
#1091
LOL.

On October 06 2012 07:49 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 07:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
However, we still have three lynches till defeat.
debears -> shady -> Djodref should seal us the game.
I cannot for the life of me view SDM and RSC as scum right now. If one of you is, well, well played, win deserved.
Now all it takes is for town to put on reality goggles, realize why it is dumb for me to be scum, and seal the deal.

Why are you pushing for lynch trains already when no one on your list has flipped yet? All that does is give scum an easy way to NK people who everyone thinks is confirmed townie to setup the best LYLO situation possible.

Conversely, this lynch train would make sense if someone in this list has flipped? What the hell does this mean.

On the RCs:

A cop RC is barely worth more than a Mason/Confirmed Townie RC at this point, since it's likely the last remaining scum is GF/Framer.

Except that he has been crumbing since day 1. The very least it tells us is he was planning to crumb cop.

Likewise, a vet RC is essentially a null tell, because if there is a GF/Framer, there is no reliable way to check ZB. (If there is a GF, Z-Boson might be a false negative; if there is a Framer, ZB might be a false positive).

wtf are you saying, do I have STD's?

What seals the deal in terms of ZB's further scumminess is how he thinks Debears and or me are the last medic, and are inviting us to claim. That just smells to me like a blue-sniping attempt.

I should be scared here, as you argue as well as a dog. They have good sense of smell. I want one of you to claim because from my POV that will end the game. Of course I've explained this, but of course you didn't and won't read.

Remember at this point scum have to kill the medic fast, or else the game is over for them.

Hardly. Medic will make their life tougher, it's not like they have to kill them

Finally, I am deeply dissatisfied with a no-lynch. In a situation where the last scum is trying to stay hidden, no-lynching is exactly what they want since they never have to "put their money where their mouth is" in terms of losing towncred by pushing a mislynch.

Yea, and you helped this no-lynch happen by being a fucktard and deliberately going awol

I am going to repeat this to everyone: at this point I do not see how you can a) assign any weight to ZB's vet claim or b) view the rest of his filter as anything but scum.

##Vote Z-Boson


And this tells you why people hate playing with him, and is generally lynched day one. His case is:
1) I don't believe ZB's vet claim (even though he doesn't address my crumbs as to why they would come from scum rather than me as veteran).
2) Everything else in his filter is scum(i.e. lololol I don't read and I'm too lazy to make a decent case and I am not going to do that because I gotta go!!)
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 23:13 GMT
#1093
Because if you accuse me of being scum, then you are assuming that they are townies, and I am speculating in a scum POV.
Give up, scum.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 23:19 GMT
#1095
Dude, you aren't that stupid, why are you painting yourself so. Let's follow through.

I am being accused of being scum.
If that is so, then I am switching between two townies.
No why would I go and do that? Seems stupid waste of time, no?
Hence, I'm not scum.

That is what's called an argument.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 23:41 GMT
#1098
What? I'm not using wifom. I'm putting myself in a scum hypothetical and arguing as such. "If I were scum that means you are townie, why would I do this and that". That explains your "slip".
It's changing because the game is over. Now all that's left of me is to knock some sense into some people. You, of course, is impossible because you are a squirming scum and see me as a golden opportunity to escape, and SS as well, because he has too much snot in his brain.
Anyways, this is a waste a time, let's see what our friends think. I gotta convince them, not you.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 06 2012 22:46 GMT
#1150
I'm also very busy. If RSC, SDM agree to lynch debears and shady, can we just end the game?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 06 2012 22:51 GMT
#1151
This game is pretty much over. Djo dying is evidence there's not medic, as I was assuming due to a highly presumptuous DarthPunk. It also makes sense role-wise. That being so, there shouldn't be a shred of doubt I'm actually a veteran.
Debears, just concede man. Pointless to keep on playing.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 07 2012 05:45 GMT
#1155
lol, giving a tip are you? I don't get why you even play this game. You don't read, you don't think and worst of all, show no will to improve. How do you think "placing my vote on you and will go afk in the next 17h and nothing will change my mind lololol" is either A) townie or B) a good mindset to have?

I waited so long to do it because I got shot n1. Why would I claim, what does this info add? Scum wouldn't target me again in case I could have been SK (or thought so at the time, didn't realize there were no such thing in this setup). I was forced to claim because of a shit words-cannot-describe retard wagon on me.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 07 2012 06:21 GMT
#1156
debears, let me lay it out for you.
You are town, SDM is scum. Why would SDM not cast the lynching vote on a townie? Unlikely. This goes along with everybody's town reads on him.
I am pretty much town. If there is no medic, it's 100% sure that this is true, because nobody died n1, so there must be a veteran, and if I'm fake claiming veteran the real veteran can just fuck me.
RSC would be very surprising, as he could have easily pushed a lynch on your townie self (ss, observe how this is hypothetical, and not a scumslip. See the difference?) or on me by discrediting my claim. His cases seem genuine to me. I can see him being scum, but I highly, highly doubt it.
RSC is your only go-to card, if that's what your next post is about. You're gonna have to convince people of someone else to be scum in case SS gets lynched today.
Why you and not him? Well, for starters, Shady has actually (hooray!) managed to figure this out and has seen that it's either you or him. You, however, already started spreading doubts:
On October 06 2012 15:52 debears wrote:
@Djo

I would say I'm the best lynch to clarify my alignment for a possible mylo. Other than that

1) SS - his actions indicate scum
2) RSC - I gotta look through his filter again but he hasn't been too active
3) SDM - His refusal to vote for me for the lynch is weird as I said before. He is less confirmed due to the two rc's. It would make sense that we don't have a super strong scumread at this point if SDM is indeed scum. However, it would be infering that SDM played lights out. It's still possible though.
4) Djo - you have used the noobie card to shade your scummy actions, but it makes sense from a cop perspective to keep a target off your back. However, this is no actual way to prove your claim (the lack of a counterclaim is good support though).
4) Z-Bo - confirmed town to me unless a medic claims


In case you somehow survive, the natural scummy way of life here is to spread doubt and confusion.
This is my final stance, like I've said, I'm extremely bored at this game and have nothing else to do here. If either RSC or SDM are scum, I'll be really impressed (and sad).

Concede, seriously, you are just making yourself look bad.

##Vote debears

+ Show Spoiler +
For betting purposes, you are a Framer



Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 07 2012 15:45 GMT
#1161
lol ure actually choosing SDM...

thought you were going for RSC

nice. Just give up bro
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