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On October 03 2012 20:57 RemedySC wrote: @ Omni Alsn was a pretty hot topic during D2, yet you don't add much to the discussion. It looks like you are distancing yourself from a possible Alsn lynch. Here for example. You say Alsn is still pretty null / slightly scum after previewing some cases against him. Why don't you bring those up and try to get more information out of Alsn. If he is a hot topic and a likely lynch candidate, shouldn't you be looking into that a bit more? Here you say you have a slight scum read on Alsn. You don't give any reasons. There has been almost no information out of you that has to do with Alsn. He is on the verge of being lynched, and you seem to distance yourself from him. Lastly, you promise a case against Alsn, yet it never happens. Conclusion - You are mafia distancing yourself from a possible Alsn lynch. You know he is going to flip town. This is pretty good actually. I've went against Alsn full-force and all he's provided us is a "meh I think he's scum" | ||
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What is your take of this: On October 02 2012 07:40 Omniscient4983 wrote: @RemedySC I'm sure a few people have mentioned this about Corrosion: the fact that he "attacked" Darth, or, as someone said, "cast a scummy shadow" on him. At this point, he doesn't totally trust Darth because it's d1, and Kush isn't obvious scum yet. Personally, it seems like he is trying to be objective about the issue at hand. He points out a totally plausible case. Later, he mentions that Kush is indeed suspicious but doesn't want to focus on one person like Darth is. I don't see it as scum-motivation or an attack on Darth. I see it as common sense. As for my post saying that his second reason for voting Kush was ridiculous: it was. It has nothing to do with Kush. He basically says that it would be better to pull a name out of a hat and lynch them than have a no-lynch. However, I think he's coming off as genuinely newbie-town. He's trying to contribute. I also find this post to be very town-like. He likes the feedback he is getting. If he were scum, he likely would have gotten very defensive about these points in efforts to exonerate himself. He admits faults; something I think scum would have a hard time doing. That is just, in brief, why i have a slight-town read on Corrosion. Nothing decisive as of yet. Unfortunately, he says he won't be around to post much more, and can't be sure on my read of him if he ceases to post. | ||
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Also, Omni assumed corrosion townie, and actually made a half-assed case against RSC based on something RSC did not say. RSC didn't like corrosion's reason to vote for kush, not that he's attacking corrosion for voting kush, plus corrosion's weirdness regarding the lynch. Of course, bad case != scum, but why the hell is he saying corrosion is town? If you look through corrosion's filter, he looks pretty damn scummy. RSC later pressured him because of this, and he felt pressured enough to make a full townie case on corrosion, that pretty much includes: "corrosion said nice case! scum don't like saying those things!". I'm actually considering him for real as a day3 lynch. On September 30 2012 07:21 Omniscient4983 wrote: I've been reading through RemedySC's filter. I found his last post in particular a bit odd. + Show Spoiler + On September 29 2012 21:59 corrosion wrote: Let me just state the reasons that my vote is on Kush right now: I'm sorry, but I don't believe these are reasons a town would choose to make a vote. On September 29 2012 21:59 corrosion wrote: 1) I think his explanation of the slip was poor. If he had given a good explanation, I might have believed him. So the scum slip itself doesn't give you good reason to vote for him, but his poor defense does? A mafia making a scum slip could have the best explanation in the world. That doesn't exonerate them. On September 29 2012 21:59 corrosion wrote: 2) I've been thinking about who would benefit if the result is a no-lynch. I'm thinking mafia is likely to benefit the most from a no-lynch. So your second reason isn't even something that Kush has done. Wouldn't you also say that mafia would benefit from a mis-lynch more than from a no-lynch? Could you elaborate more on the bolded part, because you give no explanation as to how a mafia would benefit more from a no-lynch. On September 29 2012 21:59 corrosion wrote: Right now, I think that there's more than a 25 % chance that Kush is scum. Therefore, I'm voting for him. I'm not sure if any of these points are original. I'm having trouble keeping up with the thread, because I tend to get hanged up in details. You would think a town would want to be more than 25% sure the person they are voting for is scum. You don't even have any cases made against kush. No questions asked. Very vague reasons given... I find it odd that RSC was attacking Corrosion for voting Kush. At this point in the game, RSC had already cast his vote for Kush, and his best reason was: RSC doesn't really have much motivation for voting Kush, other than the fact that he's disruptive to the gameplay environment. Yet, he picks apart Corrosion for voting him. I don't understand why he'd attack Corrosion's "poor reasons" at all. Take a look at the bolded part of the spoiler. He condemns Corrosion for not having made any cases again Kush, yet RSC himself hasn't done anything of the sort. RSC hasn't posted anything in regards to Kush being scum besides the "creating a bad atmosphere" and "not posting in a pro-town manner" argument. RSC doesn't seem to be any more sure than Corrosion is about lynching Kush, yet he is condemning Corrosion for having bad reasoning. His post seems hypocritical to me. @RemedySC Why, if you had voted Kush with such little evidence, were you outing Corrosion for doing something similar? You almost seemed as if you were defending Kush for no reason in this post. I'm curious, and would like to hear your opinion on things. | ||
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On October 04 2012 11:10 Djodref wrote: EBWOP:
Thing about this is that after alsn lynch I've lost faith in some of the arguments. -Association case with kush was stronger with Alsn. -His "scumslip" doesn't make sense as scum. It could have been a slip, which is what we are currently thinking, but I think him as scum would have been more careful about this, as he just came from being scum in XVII. Dunno, from what I've read in his filter, he does't seem to be that type of player to do that. -What reluctancy? He addressed most if not all the posts against him. -WIFOM bombs are weird, but they aren't a scum tell. He also used them a LOT less in his scum game. But like I said earlier, the games are under different circumstances. I'm starting to feel this way because of the Alsn incident. I thought the Alsn case to be 10x stronger than debears, and yet he still (somehow) managed to pop up town. Tomorrow I'll go over Omniscient's filter more carefully, but please seriously consider him a lynch. Also, Djodref, explain your town read on him. | ||
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This only leaves SS and Omni, both players who attacked kush in a non-convincing manner early in day one and hopped on not too impressively on the Alsn wagon. I still have to read more carefully, but from my readings on my small-screened cell phone in class, It seems this way. SS and Omni seem like good lynch contenders for the second edition of battle for the noose  What do you guys think? | ||
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On October 05 2012 00:43 debears wrote: Yeah. I looked at Djo's whole filter. I can post my findings if you want. I'd say they're inconclusive and rely on too much speculation. It's long If you think he's scum, post them, if not, don't clog up the thread | ||
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On October 05 2012 00:44 debears wrote: Right now, my order is most likely from most to least scummy. I'll take a quick glance at omni's filter. There isn't much to say on shady since he hasn't posted much since being replaced 1) Omni 2) Shady 3) Djo 4)Remedy Quick glance? Cmon... You can also look at corrosion filter and decide if he's newbie town or newbie mafia | ||
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On October 05 2012 01:13 Djodref wrote: @Z-BosoN I'm not supportive for a battle of the nose. It would be too easy for the last scum if he is not part of the two targets. How do you feel right now about your first battle of the noose ? A It's just a joke, I'm not doing that shit again. I was just saying that both our friends omni and ss look like decent lynch targets right now. | ||
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he, however, also went for Alsn. I'm not too sure on him. For today, though, I;d lean town on him. | ||
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On October 05 2012 01:42 Djodref wrote: I'm off to bed guys ! I don't blame the inactive people too much because this game is now 7 against one. Moreover I guess they trust the outcome of the game to the confirmed townies and active players. @the last scum Unless you think you can take all of us all down, I think you might better concede. Look at what your dead teammates have done to this thread with their quick deaths ! All the excitement is gone now :s hm, waht? Aren't you excited to find the last scum? I don't want this game to last more than tomorrow. Pretty sure the dudes in the obs qt don't either lol hmm.. | ||
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Until some time before lynch time tomorrow, I'll post my findings, explaining why. | ||
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Thanks for that post SS, it brought out some very interesting reactions. Of course, your case is laughable, as usual. Of course, as scum, I would want to switch my vote towards a townie, in favor of, let's see, another townie. I will definitely bother producing a fuckton of text just for that. Anyways, djodref managed to be even worse. Please reread your points against me, and think of how they could come from me as scum. Think about what your FOS accomplishes for town here today. I'll be accepting donations to make up for you making my eyes bleed. If Omni doesn't answer, it's either debears/djodref/SS imo. Pointless lynching a modkill. Will decide come tomorrow, I gotta go sleep. SDM, I'd love to know your input on who you'd rather lynch save Omni. I'm sleepy as hell and will go to sleep, but probably during class tomorrow I'm gonna make up my mind. RSC, same thing. Gnight! | ||
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