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Blazinghand
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marvellosity
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I wonder if we shouldn't kill BL first then | ||
Barbiero
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Marvellosity - I think he is town because of today's fight. Every time he deflected an argument of mine, my head told me "bitch is trying to deceive me" but upon thinking further and upon his reaction to my claim, I believe he is town. My case wasn't as strong as I initally thought, and he has been putting effort and emotion that looks like his town self. Keirathi - he was roleblocked and took an active part on day 2 discussion. He also helped me in making sense today. Dirkzor - He's in the middle of the list because he was also active during today(although less than keirathi) and because he didn't have a pile of shit as a case. I have a little bug behind my ear with this guy because his case did deflect bluelightz' lynch and killed a townie too, but I don't think it is really that much of an indication to be honest because he wasn't entirely wrong on his case and the situation warranted it. prplhz - he made a case on Bluelightz during the night and then never voted for his own scum read nor he made any effort to push his case during the day. To me, he felt like he was very satisfied with the way day 2 was rolling, and he made a really terrible case out of pure bussing. Bluelightz - Red. Seriously. Null read into scum read day 1 without explaining it, going "I told you so" after risen's lynch, and generally inactive and bad during today. Bluelightz at least tries to make sense of stuff once in a while, and we never saw his signature list-of-all-town-reads. So, at this point, I'm willing to believe a bluelightz lynch followed by a prplhz lynch will net us the win. | ||
marvellosity
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Will try to make myself re-read everything before the night is up. | ||
strongandbig
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Keirathi
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Some things I noticed: Bluelightz and prplhz had basically no interactions with each other until n1, then suddenly prplhz has a fully fleshed out. Except, once the day starts, prplhz is MIA (and therefore isn't voting BL) for basically the whole day, and then hops onboard the v7 lynch at the end. Meanwhile, BL *still* hasn't given an opinion about prplhz. His only mention of him at all was to respond to prplhz's case. Early on in the Risen debacle, he gave Risen a public town read, but didn't mention anything about the prplhz. I'm pretty sure we have our scumteam here, but Dirkzor does complicate things. I basically have a completely null read on him. I know that he's been here and posting, but nothing he has said has ever really stood out or been memorable. Reading back over today, he flat-out defend BL earlier in the day, and then after the Zeph claim and we start meandering around: 1) i called out vader 2) Zeph called out BL 3) marv agrees with zeph that BL is scummy, and has a town read on vader 4) Zeph votes for BL 5) Dirk steps in with a big case on vader, and all the conversation about BL stops. @marv, Zeph: I still think prplhz is the scummiest person, and I'm not really sure why both of you have deemed BL to be scummier. BL does seem to have links to prplhz AND Dirk, so I guess I can kind of see your reasoning and if you wanted to lynch BL first i could consolidate there, but it feels "wrong" not to be voting my scummiest read. | ||
Barbiero
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prplhz
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I thought about voting with my case but that was during the night so I didn't and I just never came around to it during the day because who gives a shit. No one. I think marvellosity was being really merciful when he described this thought process of yours as "a bit of a stretch". | ||
prplhz
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prplhz
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prplhz
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Dirkzor
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Now at lylo that doesn't really work anymore since we need to get the mafiosos. I still think prplhz is the most scummy with BL/marv/kei coming behind (in that order). I didn't add zephirdd because he will most likely die. If he doesn't I'll think about then when it happens. On September 11 2012 06:28 prplhz wrote: ##Vote vaderseven I can get on board this lynch, thought he was kind of weird day1 and with no counter claim yet it looks like Zephirdd is actually a cop. I have no idea why people are hating on the Bluelightz lynch so much though. This got posted 30 min before deadline. Right after that post he is asked several questions here (zephirdd) and here (me) He is clearly reading the thread because he made a follow up to marvs response to Zephirdd's case/post on prplhz just stating: On September 11 2012 06:49 prplhz wrote: "a bit" lol Why not repsond to the questions asked? Prplhz havent willingly given up any reads this game. He was onto Risen day 1. Then changed to Keir when the momentum changed. He than later changed back to Risen with this: On September 07 2012 05:05 prplhz wrote: Yea okay. marvellosity points out that Risen does a scumslip. This scumslip isn't just for Risen though, it also implicates marvellosity as well. Bussing requires two scum, not one. marvellosity realizes that if Risen is lynched it is only a matter of time before someone figures this out and so he backs off. His backing off is also weird, it's allegedly because the lynch gained momentum but he doesn't say this before he is called out, he just says "I have my reasons but I'm not going to explain" and then the explanation is like, 10 words long. I don't like this one bit and I'd rather lynch Risen and then we can talk about marvellosity tomorrow. ##Vote Risen Consider how much Risen had written in the beginning and that is the best reason prplhz can come up with? When asked by ange about zeph he doesn't answer. He just brings up BL instead: On September 09 2012 05:29 prplhz wrote: I'm not really all that worried about him right now. I'm more worried about Bluelightz. This game he was the only one to go against the Risen lynch (besides Risen himself). The last game I remember Bluelightz going against the "mainstream" lynch was Wheel of Fortune Mafia. In that game Bluelightz made a ton of cases on other people because he thought that zentor was town and that it was a mislynch. Everybody agreed that Bluelightz played really well post game, he even got a mention from Radfield in the Mafia Awards thread. This is how "moved" Bluelightz is from a mislynch that he didn't like this game: Next post after deadline: This doesn't look like the townie Bluelightz at all, it looks like a guy who doesn't give a shit at all and that's very unlike Bluelightz. I don't like Ange777 either, in the filters I read she was posting text wall after text wall exposing scum and apparently also carrying her team to victory. I don't see any of that here. There is prodding and there is poking but there's no whacking with a big stick but I'm less sure about this. Bluelightz is looking really bad. If prplhz is scum he would also know that Ange was about to die. making his "I don't like Ange777 either" comment stick out. Prplhz have only given reads on players who died shortly after - or BL. This one on Ange777 and then his big "risen is scum" post at the end of d1. Here The timing of that "case" was also perfect. (also note that the reason he voted Risen the 2nd time - his scumslip - isn't mentioned in this case) The lynch was basicly decided by then. On September 09 2012 03:29 Ange777 wrote: @prplhz: Do you think that I am scum? On September 09 2012 03:37 prplhz wrote: It's a distinct possibility. Can you answer my question and tell me why you thought Risen was scum? I don't even get why you ignored it the first time but I'm sure you have a good reason for that. Again a half answer. Of course its a distinct possibility. Then a deflection on to a guy already dead (Risen). The qeustion he wants ange to answer is 24h old. The player in question is dead. I would say the question is most likely irrelevant at that point in time. And the question asked is stupid since its all clearly written in Ange's filter. And if you go read was happens after, prplhz doesn't use the answer given by ange to anything. No follow up or anything. But just because Prplhz is as much scum as the night is black doesn't clear BL. I think prplhz was bussing him. Why? On September 09 2012 17:20 prplhz wrote: @Keirathi What do you think about Bluelightz? On September 10 2012 06:49 prplhz wrote: i don't like how everybody is ignoring my bluelightz case "that's bluelightz for you" no it isn't, this isn't bluelightz. marv tell me why you like bluelightz and why you don't like zeph. On September 10 2012 20:23 prplhz wrote: I don't really like this Zephirdd lynch and I have no idea how so many people can think that Bluelightz looks townie. Dirkzor why do you think that Bluelightz is town? Fishing for other peoples townread on BL. Instead of asking why I think he is town, why didn't he try to change my/our beliefs? He didn't just as he never actively pushed for BL's lynch. All in all I'm pretty sure prplhz is scum. I'm not ruling out anyone at this moment but I have to go with my best scum read. | ||
marvellosity
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prplhz
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On September 11 2012 19:25 marvellosity wrote: no prplhz, you didn't push jack shit. Okay. | ||
Dirkzor
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marvellosity
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On September 11 2012 12:38 Keirathi wrote: I've been staring at this thread for like 2 hours (with an occasional IRC break) since I got home trying to make some sense of it. Some things I noticed: Bluelightz and prplhz had basically no interactions with each other until n1, then suddenly prplhz has a fully fleshed out. Except, once the day starts, prplhz is MIA (and therefore isn't voting BL) for basically the whole day, and then hops onboard the v7 lynch at the end. Meanwhile, BL *still* hasn't given an opinion about prplhz. His only mention of him at all was to respond to prplhz's case. Early on in the Risen debacle, he gave Risen a public town read, but didn't mention anything about the prplhz. I'm pretty sure we have our scumteam here, but Dirkzor does complicate things. I basically have a completely null read on him. I know that he's been here and posting, but nothing he has said has ever really stood out or been memorable. Reading back over today, he flat-out defend BL earlier in the day, and then after the Zeph claim and we start meandering around: 1) i called out vader 2) Zeph called out BL 3) marv agrees with zeph that BL is scummy, and has a town read on vader 4) Zeph votes for BL 5) Dirk steps in with a big case on vader, and all the conversation about BL stops. @marv, Zeph: I still think prplhz is the scummiest person, and I'm not really sure why both of you have deemed BL to be scummier. BL does seem to have links to prplhz AND Dirk, so I guess I can kind of see your reasoning and if you wanted to lynch BL first i could consolidate there, but it feels "wrong" not to be voting my scummiest read. And what if it's BL/Dirk after what happened yesterday? Can you see a prplhz/Dirk rather than BL/prplhz Dirk/BL? I only really see Dirk as possibly scum if BL is, don't you agree? | ||
prplhz
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On September 11 2012 17:39 Dirkzor wrote: Because they were all dumb and useless.I can get behind a BL lynch but I would much rather lynch prplhz. The reason for me to go against a BL lynch earlier was that it was to easy ot get him lynched. BL rarely post more then a few times a day and thus would not gives us anything to work with and i don't find him too scummy this game. Now at lylo that doesn't really work anymore since we need to get the mafiosos. I still think prplhz is the most scummy with BL/marv/kei coming behind (in that order). I didn't add zephirdd because he will most likely die. If he doesn't I'll think about then when it happens. This got posted 30 min before deadline. Right after that post he is asked several questions here (zephirdd) and here (me) He is clearly reading the thread because he made a follow up to marvs response to Zephirdd's case/post on prplhz just stating: Why not repsond to the questions asked? + Show Spoiler + On September 11 2012 06:39 Zephirdd wrote: Hello prplhz, how are you? we missed you here. I was looking at your filter. Interesting stuff popped up. Stuff like this: Previous to this post, you had very little interactions with Ange777 and this is basically the first time you voice suspicion on her. But the thing is, the way you are doing it at what point in time. For context, this happened after I made my case on bluelightz(which was pretty terrible looking back at it), and you made a new case on bluelightz right after this, and right after you said Ange777 was possibly scum. The thing is, these timings feel too wrong because Ange777 was killed that night. to me, it feels like you tried to make bluelightz say something bad about ange777 before flipping her, and use that information to lynch bluelightz tonight. You chose bluelightz for that because I had just made a case on him earlier, and your case was even worse. Furthermore, you came in today and didn't vote the one who you said to be your top scum read, all while being AWOL during my and marvellosity's exchange. Like... I don't know why I looked for ange777 interactions when searching through your filter, but this is incredibly glaring. prplhz, can you give your opinion on Dirkzor, marvellosity and Bluelightz right now? I don't give out opinions unless I have to. My read on Bluelightz was pretty obvious from the thread and my read on you and marvellosity were irrelevant because I didn't want to lynch them and neither did anybody else. And ... that's kind of it. Nobody else wanted anything from me. Prplhz havent willingly given up any reads this game. He was onto Risen day 1. Then changed to Keir when the momentum changed. He than later changed back to Risen with this: Consider how much Risen had written in the beginning and that is the best reason prplhz can come up with? When asked by ange about zeph he doesn't answer. He just brings up BL instead: If prplhz is scum he would also know that Ange was about to die. making his "I don't like Ange777 either" comment stick out. Prplhz have only given reads on players who died shortly after - or BL. This one on Ange777 and then his big "risen is scum" post at the end of d1. Here The timing of that "case" was also perfect. (also note that the reason he voted Risen the 2nd time - his scumslip - isn't mentioned in this case) The lynch was basicly decided by then. Again a half answer. Of course its a distinct possibility. Then a deflection on to a guy already dead (Risen). The qeustion he wants ange to answer is 24h old. The player in question is dead. I would say the question is most likely irrelevant at that point in time. And the question asked is stupid since its all clearly written in Ange's filter. And if you go read was happens after, prplhz doesn't use the answer given by ange to anything. No follow up or anything. I ask a lot of questions that has already been "answered" by people because that's a good way to catch scum because they just make shit up and then suddenly their stories don't add up. I did that a ton in this thread too I believe, I think it's a good way to scum hunt. But just because Prplhz is as much scum as the night is black doesn't clear BL. I think prplhz was bussing him. Why? Fishing for other peoples townread on BL. Instead of asking why I think he is town, why didn't he try to change my/our beliefs? He didn't just as he never actively pushed for BL's lynch. All in all I'm pretty sure prplhz is scum. I'm not ruling out anyone at this moment but I have to go with my best scum read. Yea whatever. I said on n1 "Lets lynch this guy who doesn't give a shit" and then you said "No, lets just leave him alive and try to lynch these two blues" and then n2 you're all "Fuck, we should have lynched the guy who didn't give a shit". Well, duh. Jesus christ. If you want me to respond to whatever case you have against me then please don't just do summary + conclusion, do summary + arguments + conclusion. You only included the two useless parts and left me filling in the blanks so that I could argue against myself and that's quite infuriating. | ||
marvellosity
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prplhz
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