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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 11 2012 22:06 GMT
#721
inconvenient LVII deadlines
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 22:13:51
September 11 2012 22:13 GMT
#722

Day 3


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Artosis pondered quietly as he sat on the toilet. The toilet, for him, was one of the few places he could find peace and solitude in the heavily-urbanized South Korean cityscape. A contemplative and analytical man at heart,he knew something was afoot. Something horrible. That incident with NaDa was only the first, he knew that much. There were no leads though, no suspects. Who was the cheeser?

He'd arranged a meeting ahead of time, with someone he knew he could trust: choyafOu. A brilliant Protoss, one of the great players of his age. Nobody knew they'd meet, nobody except of course a couple Gretech officials who'd approved the meeting and John the Translator who'd be facilitating. No-one else could be trusted. Not even Tasteless.

Now is the time. Artosis makes his way down the hall to the meeting room when he notices a smell in the air. His eyes widen in horror. No. NO NO NO NO-- Suddenly, he's running. Sprinting. He skids to a halt in front of the door. He yanks at the knob, but it's locked. NO NO NO

He pounds on the door, and in his fury he kicks it off its hinges. The smell of cooking oil and curds washes over him, sickeningly familiar.

In a puddle of grease and milk product is the body of choyafOu. He's not breathing. Artosis drags him clear of the toxic room, and realizes his chest isn't rising and falling like it ought to. The caster pounds his chest as he was trained, and breathes into the mouth of his dying friend. For what seems like an hour, he continues CPR until John, who heard his cries, comes running with Gom Employees.

As the auto-defib takes over for him. Artosis collapses against the wall. What was happening? Who was cheesing people? Who would KILL choyafOu?

As the ambulance carries the progamer away, even the teamliquid.net forums are mournfully silent.




marvellosity as choyafOu the progamer has been cheesed to death!




It is now Day 3. With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. Day 3 ends in 48 hours at Thursday, Sep 13 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Quatol
Profile Joined April 2012
Burkina Faso57 Posts
September 11 2012 22:15 GMT
#723
that was somewhat unexpected

gg
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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 11 2012 22:15 GMT
#724
Oh wow. Well, I didn't expect that. At all. to be honest, I was expecting keirathi to be shot.

Obviously I was roleblocked.

Anyways

##Vote Bluelightz
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 22:23:28
September 11 2012 22:18 GMT
#725
If you wish to switch to a 24-hour day, PM me. If I receive PMs from all 5 living players in the next 24 hours requesting a shortened day, the day will end 24 hours early. If 1 or more players abstains or votes against the shortened day, the day will be 48 hours as normal.
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 12 2012 00:50 GMT
#726
Sorry I'm a bit late to the day starting. I got Guild Wars 2 yesterday, so I've been kind of addicted to that.

Okay, so I'm like 90% sure that we've caught the scumteam in BL+prplhz.

Laying out my points for them being a scumteam again:

1) BL's only read towards prplhz the entire game was
On September 11 2012 22:38 Bluelightz wrote:
Oh fuck, vaderseven.

Why the fuck are you guys for pointing at me for lynching a medic that didn't BOTHER defend and claimed in the last 10 minutes? only because of an impending modkill.

Looking over some other stuff, prplhz looks like a fine lynch target, but I guess I should be more careful when pushing people.

....which came last night. After people already started pointing fingers at a BL+prplhz scumteam.

2) Early on during the Risen fallout, BL gave Risen a town read while completely ignoring prplhz, despite the fact that he gave Risen a town read BECAUSE of the case on prplhz. Why wasn't he at least suspicious of the person his town read had a case on? Or not even be suspicious of prplhz, I just don't see how he could completely IGNORE it.

3) After all their ignoring each other day1, prplhz comes out with a fully fleshed out case during n1 against BL. Where did that read come from? Granted, a townie could do that too, but the kicker: after his case (the only real case prplhz has made all game that wasn't a throwaway case on the person who already had a majority vote and set to be lynched), the only time prplhz attempted to "push" the case was saying "All the cases on Zeph are bad, why is everyone ignoring my case on BL". That doesn't feel like someone trying to lynch BL, it feels like someone trying to SEEM like he wants to lynch BL. He literally never tried to get any traction going on the case at all, or added new information to it. They both just lurked the whole day away.


However, like I said, I don't think a BL+Dirk team is impossible at this point. I honestly had basically a 100% null read on Dirkzor all game, because I feel like he's sort of floated by under the radar, being active but not impactful. At least until the Zeph claim yesterday. I already laid out the chain of events, but here it is once more for convenience (and easier to read, this time)

1) Zeph claims cop, and people realize he's telling the truth and start unvoting. Note that his vote was on Zeph, with his only reasoning being he was sheeping Ange's case from n1.

2) I asked people to go look back into vader again and consider him as a vote candidate now.

3) Zeph proposes a case on BL instead, and votes him

4) Marv agrees with the BL lynch and votes, and gives an "uninterested townie" read to vader

5) Dirk steps in with a large case on vader, and convinces everyone onto him instead because he has a town read on BL.


Even after this, he still gives a town read to BL. Except, as soon as vader flips:

On September 11 2012 17:39 Dirkzor wrote:
I can get behind a BL lynch but I would much rather lynch prplhz. The reason for me to go against a BL lynch earlier was that it was to easy ot get him lynched. BL rarely post more then a few times a day and thus would not gives us anything to work with and i don't find him too scummy this game.

Now at lylo that doesn't really work anymore since we need to get the mafiosos.

I still think prplhz is the most scummy with BL/marv/kei coming behind (in that order). I didn't add zephirdd because he will most likely die. If he doesn't I'll think about then when it happens.


He says he could get behind a BL lynch, but is still soft defending him and wanting to lynch prplhz first.



So, while I do still think BL+prplhz is the scumteam, the chance of BL+Dirk is too high to ignore. I would rather have to make the decision between prplhz vs Dirk in 2-1 LYLO with a confirmed scum dead, than lose today because I was slightly wrong. Either way, in both cases, BL is scum.

##Vote: Bluelightz
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 12 2012 02:23 GMT
#727
I've been considering your thoughts on dirk too, keir. There is a post that rings my bell here:

On September 11 2012 19:47 Dirkzor wrote:
Prplhz if you don't want to be lynched you should start playing this game. That includes responding to the accusation I've made against you.


I mean, prplhz is supposed to be scum from his perspective IMO. Why would he post this?

The problem I have here with prplhz vs dirkzor is
1. last time prplhz was useless and I had an early scum read on him, he ended up being scum.
2. Dirkzor always rings my bells like that but ultimately ends up town

I idk, I'm more inclined to prplhz right now.
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 12 2012 02:34 GMT
#728
So you think prplhz+Dirk scumteam?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 12 2012 03:08 GMT
#729
I am voting bluelightz.
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 12 2012 03:13 GMT
#730
Right, I thought your post meant you were reconsidering your vote on Bluelightz into a vote on prplhz, because you were worried about prplhz+Dirk scumteam. My bad
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 12 2012 03:17 GMT
#731
speaking of which, where the fuck is everyone.
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 12 2012 03:20 GMT
#732
Yea, these different time zones are annoying. We're basically on completely opposite schedules. Dirk/BL/prpl post while I'm sleeping, and you and I post while they're sleeping.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 12 2012 08:22 GMT
#733
I'll lynch whoever keir and zephirdd want. Basicly i'm 99% that its prplhz and BL for scum. So lynching BL or prplhz first doesn't really matter for me. The 1% is if Keir is scum and RB himself n1.

If lynching BL helps you get a better read on me or prplhz I say lynch him first.

How are you with the shortened days?

And all ask me anything and I'll answer the best I can. I'm not sure if it would help if I pushed more cases on prplhz or BL at this point. I will if you ask me - my case on prplhz stands, but I could try to dig deeper.

I've tried to be transparent in my thought process throughout the game. Not something that can be said about either Prplhz or BL.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 12 2012 09:45 GMT
#734
I've also been transparent, you're just mad that I don't give out reads left and right but those are the people I don't care about because I don't really think they're scum. Why do you want me to rate people I find townie on a townie list, that seems rather odd. And that you get mad about it seems scummy to be honest, only scum can use townie lists for anything.

I was asked about a person I didn't think was scum and I ignored the question and instead talked about someone I thought was scum. How is that not transparent?
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 12 2012 10:05 GMT
#735
Because that leaves nothing to hold you to later. When not giving out any reads we can not go back and look later how you're take on a situation was.

On September 11 2012 06:28 prplhz wrote:
##Vote vaderseven

I can get on board this lynch, thought he was kind of weird day1 and with no counter claim yet it looks like Zephirdd is actually a cop.

I have no idea why people are hating on the Bluelightz lynch so much though.


Post like these. You had never mentioned Vader before this post. You claim that you found him weird d1 but we have no way to know that because you never mentioned that. For all we know you were making up shit about him looking weird day1 because thats what everyone else said - and thats most likely what you did.

You never willingly gave up reads. Town or scum or "he is weird" or "I'm not sure. This was scummy but this was town-like." I/we never asked you give up your town-reads just your reads. We can't all be town? (well to you we can because you already know who's who)

You've only really talked about Risen or BL. Thats not very transparent is it?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 12 2012 10:06 GMT
#736
On September 11 2012 23:42 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 21:37 marvellosity wrote:
On September 11 2012 21:30 prplhz wrote:
Bleh I didn't have time to read NMM3 and I totally forgot about it but that doesn't matter, meta is a supportive argument at best and I don't use it for anything other than that.


except you said it's clearly against his town meta, and my point was that it's not. Is that not worth addressing?

If Dirk isn't scum, who is your 2nd scumread?


prplhz, answer marv. After bluelightz, who would you lynch if it isn't dirkzor, considering my fight with marvellosity, the way it rolled out, and how keirathi has been generally useful and was roleblocked, as well as my claim.

Another point in case.

Answer the question? Who is scum besides BL and why?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 12 2012 10:18 GMT
#737
Why aren't either of you voting for bluelightz.

wtf is wrong with you
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 12 2012 10:30 GMT
#738
I already said I'll vote whoever you want.

##Vote Bluelightz
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#739
........... but i posted a god damn read you are just obsessing over the very irrelevant detail that i wasn't complying to a seemingly arbitrary request (the underlying purpose of which i assume was merely to get me talking, which i actually did comply to by posting a case on a scum rather than saying "derp he is null/town lawl")

i posted plenty of reads this game but mostly on scummy people, the rest are null to town and completely useless to anybody but scum

and now zeph is on about "y u no vote" again LOL it's OBVIOUS AS FUCK who i want to lynch and i'll vote whenever i feel like it
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 12 2012 12:19 GMT
#740
I don't like Dirkzor, as well as Zeph, they're a scum team. Ive realised the connection between them (Hopefully). But, right now Zephirdd is more believable as scum, why? if Zeph was a Parity Cop, why in the bloody hell didn't scum kill him? He was only roleblocked (Although I would agree on marv being more useful).

##Vote: Zephirdd

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