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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On August 15 2012 13:20 YourHarry wrote: Shady. I guess there is a small chance that I could be wrong. But if I am right, it is not a good idea to reveal this information. Let's move on for now. What is the information? Why are you so sure he's town? | ||
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
What do you think about mkfuba. He in one hand defends Solar against your case, but non-committingly adds that Solar is not acting against pro-town behavior. Scum mkfuba motivated to push Solar mislynch, expecting subsequent emotional and "snarky" behavior from Solar. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On August 15 2012 13:28 YourHarry wrote: Actually I find mkfuba suspicious. Although I think Solar did act somewhat scummy (and I voted him at one point), I think Solar is town. There were four people who thought Solar was scum: Shady, YourHarry, thrawn, and mkfuba. After three people expressed suspicion on Solar, Mkfuba opportunistically but non-committingly fuels Solar bandwagon: You're making stuff up, now. I've never once said that Solar was scum. I've been trying to get him to respond to Shady's questions in a way that actually helps town instead of snarky one-liners that provide nothing but suspicion. How does that quote in any way fuel a bandwagon against Solar? I've made it quite clear that I see his actions as those of a panicked townie. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On August 15 2012 13:41 YourHarry wrote: Shady, unless GK or someone starts accusing me I standby my decision. What do you think about mkfuba. He in one hand defends Solar against your case, but non-committingly adds that Solar is not acting against pro-town behavior. Scum mkfuba motivated to push Solar mislynch, expecting subsequent emotional and "snarky" behavior from Solar. I'm not in any way pushing for a lynch of Solar right now. Again, you're making things up. I never said he was "not acting against pro-town behaviour." In fact, I've said that he is acting against pro-town behaviour. That was the whole point of everything I've said. He is not at all acting pro-town, but has yet to do anything I see as downright scummy. How you've misinterpreted that without some alternative intent behind it is beyond me. | ||
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
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YourHarry
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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YourHarry
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On August 15 2012 13:41 YourHarry wrote: Shady, unless GK or someone starts accusing me I standby my decision. What do you think about mkfuba. He in one hand defends Solar against your case, but non-committingly adds that Solar is not acting against pro-town behavior. Scum mkfuba motivated to push Solar mislynch, expecting subsequent emotional and "snarky" behavior from Solar. Why would you wait for GK to accuse you before changing your decision? | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
When did you check your role PM this time? | ||
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
But let's forget everything I said about Solar. I will re-evaluate when more people post. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On August 15 2012 13:41 YourHarry wrote: Shady, unless GK or someone starts accusing me I standby my decision. What do you think about mkfuba. He in one hand defends Solar against your case, but non-committingly adds that Solar is not acting against pro-town behavior. Scum mkfuba motivated to push Solar mislynch, expecting subsequent emotional and "snarky" behavior from Solar. Again, why are you so sure Solar is town? | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
Golbat Och Jhuyt YH, don't just take back your assertions when people ask for reasons--that's not pro-town casework. I want to know what made you think Solar was town. | ||
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Golbat
United States499 Posts
So far, I think that the scummiest person i've seen is thrawn. He's not really said much of substance, which is of course understandable being so early in the game, but his fixation on making sure people know there could be an SK in the game is a little bit strange. The other person I find a little bit unnerving is Shady Sands. I feel like after the fiasco that was day 1 of XXII, Shady might have learned that new players who make emotionally-charged defenses of themselves and generally overreact to being targeted by someone is a trait of someone who is town. Perhaps Shady preparing a wagon that is simple to wash your hands of after the flip ("Well he WAS acting pretty scummy") | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On August 15 2012 15:18 Golbat wrote: So far, I think that the scummiest person i've seen is thrawn. He's not really said much of substance, which is of course understandable being so early in the game, but his fixation on making sure people know there could be an SK in the game is a little bit strange. Is this something I need to defend myself on? I am not sober right now so I don't think I could type a clear response till I wake up. Going to sleep now, I hope to wake up and see some more posts. | ||
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Ochrow
United States110 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
Regarding Solarsail: I didn't see that post as a soft accusation of me. My reasoning for thinking this is that it was the second post of the game. Likewise to a few other people, the thought hadn't occurred to me until Shady brought it up. From a scum perspective he has absolutely nothing to gain by accusing me of being scum that early. Taking this as anything more than a null read currently is a mistake IMO. What's more telling currently is his responses to what should have been a joke of pressure that early in Day 1. His sarcastic arguing and OMGUS vote leave me a lot more suspicious. @Solarsail You need to stop trolling and try and get some info or you're just asking to be lynched, regardless of wether or not you're town. @Shady Sands In your first post you say that of policy that we should "stop OGMUS wars" (emphasis mine, kept the whole quote for context). Yet other than pre-game banter your only posts until halfway through the 2nd page of your filter are all about confrontations to Solarsail/defending your accusation of a very, very weak case. On August 15 2012 09:42 Shady Sands wrote: + Show Spoiler [Thoughts on XXIII] + I'm still really mad at Hapa for essentially winning on luck in XXIII. Had GK actually spoken up in the game, Hapa wouldn't have had the GK lynch to work off of and we scum could have safely NK'd him without worrying about a medic save. Howdy town. Let's kick some scum ass. A few policy notes:
That's all for now, good luck everyone. So far you've accused Solarsail for soft-accusing me and focused on administrative stuff (getting filters, posting who hasn't posted yet) for a combined 14 posts. I understand that you're trying to get conversation started which is great, but I noticed you missed or ignored Z-BosoN's post directed towards you about Meta-Analysis. He's asked this twice and you've ignored him both times. @Shady Sands Regarding meta. As mentioned in earlier mafias, metas are good to keep in mind, but they are weak to base your arguments on. What we want to look at people's earlier games are their reasoning, their ferocity in detecting and attacking suspicious behavior, and their general ability to detect flaws in arguments. Even with equal roles, one player will most likely not post in the same manner or the same tone as in past games. My question to you is: Why do you feel that getting filters is so necssary? The best way to catch scum is still to hunt in tthe thread with meta-analysis only serving as the final nail in the coffin. The repeated posts on this makes me feel like there is the possibility that you're using this to be active without really hunting (1 weak accusation and 1 glaringly obvious accusation so far). Your overall level of activity makes me believe this isn't the case but I want to hear your explination. | ||
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