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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 10:18 GMT
#2121
On September 03 2012 14:56 Zephirdd wrote:
grush, if you were the easy townie to lynch, you'd have been lynched already. point is: I'm the only one right now who thinks you are more disruptive than any other candidate right now. You claim that all I do is lurk and come back every X hours sheeping someone, but you do no different. Except that you just spill out non-sense shit without anything to back it up.

For instance, why the hell is kenpachi a better shot than you, and why am I a better lynch than you? rather, why are you suggesting that both medics should die when you've been pretty much worthless for town all game long?

Seriously?


READ THE GORRAM THREAD
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 10:19 GMT
#2122
Also you can all clearly tell what I'm watching at the moment ^^
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 03 2012 16:38 GMT
#2123
On September 03 2012 19:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 14:56 Zephirdd wrote:
grush, if you were the easy townie to lynch, you'd have been lynched already. point is: I'm the only one right now who thinks you are more disruptive than any other candidate right now. You claim that all I do is lurk and come back every X hours sheeping someone, but you do no different. Except that you just spill out non-sense shit without anything to back it up.

For instance, why the hell is kenpachi a better shot than you, and why am I a better lynch than you? rather, why are you suggesting that both medics should die when you've been pretty much worthless for town all game long?

Seriously?


READ THE GORRAM THREAD


Doesn't need too, he is scum.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 03 2012 17:29 GMT
#2124
Huh. How did I miss his claim.

let me see if I got this straight. Grush was useless all game long, playing in a way that made vigilantes want to shoot him badly, while having a role that reflects KP? Instead of playing a more useful type of game or claiming a townoriented role(think of a rolecop or medic claim to draw mafia shots) he has been playing in a way that makes town want to kill him.

so, why am I the better lynch again grush? I admit that it would be silly to shoot you at this point, but why should the bulletoproof-medic be lynched over the useless guy that can potentially kill whoever targets him?

i mean, your role is more antitown than jingle's, if that is even possible. Your play hasn't been protown either. Nothing on you is protown.

seriously?
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 03 2012 18:05 GMT
#2125
Question for folks: how are you feeling about Drazerk?

He's gotten very active since scum numbers dropped. Early he was looking for KP, recently he's been collecting role information (Although so have I, but the moment I evolved he wanted to know what happened and whether I could still hide, etc.).

I've not played with him, but afaik he's the sort of player who would be willing to get active as scum, do things that don't make perfect sense from a scum perspective, just to create confusion and buy time to get to late game?

He's one of a small amount of folks we don't know the entire role of. Grush, Drazerk, and I have all claimed roles without a creator to back it up. Most other players have had part if not all of their roles revealed.


I'm still worried about the .25 KP I took N3. I mucked up the earlier numbers, kind of wanted to see what would come out of it. Basically, I take 1/2 damage from fire/water/electric/grass. We haven't had a single person alive claim a .25 KP source of damage, and Mattchew's shot was accounted for (Hit Dirk).

Basically, I either was or wasn't protected from 1 KP by Zephirdd that night.

Any fire or electric source of damage would have the .5 KP bonus from type matching. That screws up the math on taking damage from a fire or electric source. If I was only hit by fire/electric, either a creator made a 0 KP role (0 + .5 bonus)*1/2 and zephirdd didn't protect, OR I got hit by 1 normal KP and .5 fire/electric/water/grass with a protect (again, would require a 0 KP role if fire or electric), OR I got hit with 2.5 fire/electric/water/grass with a protect.

But Mattchew's shot is accounted for, we have no claimed fire pokemon left. I'm willing to believe Grush is geodude since the OP includes rock types but we haven't seen any, and he seems like one of the pokemon you'd put in a game like this (almost all the well-known generation 1 pokemon seem to be here).

Which leaves me thinking that the KP, at least partially, came from a water or grass source. Water and grass wouldn't get the KP boost, so you could make a .5 KP water or grass attack. But we ain't got no watery pokemans left. However, we have a single grass pokemans. Can anyone else give me a possible way that I took .25 KP N3 that doesn't involve Drazerk being scum?

Fe fi fo fum.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 18:27 GMT
#2126
We don't know how scum KP works austin they could split it to do exactly this. I mean its stupid and silly and requires perfect knowledge from the scum perspective but its possible.

Sadly I really doubt Zeph protected you because lets face it he hasn't reading the thread - Is claiming he hasn't been using his powers and is all around useless meaning I only have my own word to explain that I didn't hit you with the KP with sucks.

Luckily I have Kurumi who can hit me with the laser if it really bothers you (It also stops them using scum KP which is really handy(Provided thats how scum KP works but I made with the presumption in mind ))

Of course there is the major issue of if he is hitting me and then somehow gets Grush wrong because he is a lying git (We're still hitting grush with the VT laser right?) then my plan doesn't exactly work and its probably best Mattchew shoots me to end any uncertainties and to be fair its not exactly like we have a long list of people we can shoot at (Me you mattchew JH Kenpachi and Kurumi are killable (You and Mattchew are confirmed leaving me JH Kenpachi and Kurumi to use the Vigi shot on (But then Mattchews only hits me for 0.5kp meaning he can't shoot me FUCK I didn't think this out at all T_T but its still stupidly hypothetical by this stage)))

also I clearly love parentheses
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 03 2012 19:10 GMT
#2127
That's true, we don't know how scum kp works. But:
On August 11 2012 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
Also the Mafia are required to select a player(s) to carry out their Night Kill(s). This KP Will be effected by type effectiveness.
[/blue][/b]

We know they have kill(s). We know the kill is effected by type effectiveness. It seems less likely to me that mafia chooses someone to carry out the NK, who then chooses what type to do NK damage with, and more likely that the chosen person performs the NK as their type.

We assume we've got 6 killable folks, and that's probably true. Grush may or may not be killable. Heck, YOU may or may not be killable. And I can be unkillable if I don't NK. I don't think Mattchew is scum, but there's always a chance despite Wiggles's check. And yeah, Mattchew can't kill you in one shot.

I was sitting around all yesterday thinking this, but spent my time watching the international and lynching townies instead. I'm just a little worried about the number of professed "problems" we've got left, in players that town generally wants to clear out before this stage of the game. I still actually do have a town read on Grush...I think? But it's not like I can be sure there, and that leaves me with a couple players that are very difficult to get a read on, as well as a few that aren't doing much playing.
Fe fi fo fum.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 19:34 GMT
#2128
I meant I don't know if they could split up 1kp of KP into 2 0.5kp shots or 4 0.25kp shots or 0.75kp and 0.25kp etc etc

Retarded idea but possible
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 03 2012 19:43 GMT
#2129
It sounds pretty not possible.

"It sure does!" said the rest of town...
"It sure doesn't!" said the rest of town...

Anyone? Cuz I don't want to shoot without some discussion here, and right now I'll stick to hiding and waiting another night.
Fe fi fo fum.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 19:57 GMT
#2130
This is a PTP game where the mafia KP is being hidden for SOME reason

Why is it being hidden?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 19:57 GMT
#2131
Also the rest of the town suck
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 20:04 GMT
#2132
If your really worried about me have Kurumi shoots me and depending on the hosts definition of VT that should remove my typing and allow you to kill me easy enough.

This is my plan I understand why anyone wouldn't want me around at LYLO
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 03 2012 20:19 GMT
#2133
On September 04 2012 03:27 Drazerk wrote:
We don't know how scum KP works austin they could split it to do exactly this. I mean its stupid and silly and requires perfect knowledge from the scum perspective but its possible.

Sadly I really doubt Zeph protected you because lets face it he hasn't reading the thread - Is claiming he hasn't been using his powers and is all around useless meaning I only have my own word to explain that I didn't hit you with the KP with sucks.

Luckily I have Kurumi who can hit me with the laser if it really bothers you (It also stops them using scum KP which is really handy(Provided thats how scum KP works but I made with the presumption in mind ))

Of course there is the major issue of if he is hitting me and then somehow gets Grush wrong because he is a lying git (We're still hitting grush with the VT laser right?) then my plan doesn't exactly work and its probably best Mattchew shoots me to end any uncertainties and to be fair its not exactly like we have a long list of people we can shoot at (Me you mattchew JH Kenpachi and Kurumi are killable (You and Mattchew are confirmed leaving me JH Kenpachi and Kurumi to use the Vigi shot on (But then Mattchews only hits me for 0.5kp meaning he can't shoot me FUCK I didn't think this out at all T_T but its still stupidly hypothetical by this stage)))

also I clearly love parentheses

I NEVER LIED.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 20:24 GMT
#2134
True but I'm leaning on the side of caution
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 03 2012 20:36 GMT
#2135
Tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooown. Where are yoooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?
Fe fi fo fum.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 20:41 GMT
#2136
Last I checked we WAS town Austin

Other than us two who has actually done ANYTHING the last 2 cycles?
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
September 03 2012 20:56 GMT
#2137
On September 04 2012 05:41 Drazerk wrote:
Last I checked we WAS town Austin

Other than us two who has actually done ANYTHING the last 2 cycles?

well sorry we are pretty much trying to lynch the right guy for like two or three days
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 21:00 GMT
#2138
Kenpachi isn't that man it was all circumstantial evidence against him and all of that faded on Hiro's flip
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 21:15:28
September 03 2012 21:14 GMT
#2139
Day 6
[image loading]


Drazerk the Bulbasaur was beaten to death.
Austinmcc the Dragonite was captured!
Kenpachi the Snorlax was electrocuted!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

You are Snorlax, a Normal type Pokemon. Very lazy. Just eats and sleeps. As its rotund bulk builds, it becomes steadily more slothful.

Abilities
Substitute: Deal 0.25 KP damage to yourself and pick a target to protect with a substitute. The substitute's type will be treated as Normal. A substitute will absorb up to 0.25 KP (0.75 KP including the Normal type bonus). The substitute will absorb any excess damage from the hit that destroys the substitute (a 1 KP fire attack would deal 0 damage to the protected pokemon). Any subsequent hits will deal the ordinary damage. The order of KP in a single night will resolve such that the maximum amount of damage is dealt to the protected pokemon. At the end of the night, the substitute will disappear.

Rest: Restore your health to 1. Any KP abilities that target you will resolve before Rest restores your health.

[image loading]

You are Bulbasaur, a Grass/Poison type Pokemon. A strange seed was planted on your back at birth. The plant sprouts and grows with you.

Abilities:

Sleep Powder: Use Sleep Powder to put the enemy to sleep! Roleblocks one person for that Night and the next Day! Only useable at night. Use Sleep Powder by sending ""##Sleep Powder: Target"" to the hosts!

Mega Drain: Use Mega Drain to steal someone else's life! Permanently steals 0.5 KP worth of life from one person! Only useable at night. Use Mega Drain by sending ""##Mega Drain: Target"" to the hosts!

Solar Beam: Use Solar Beam to unleash the power of the sun on your foes! During the Day cycle prior to the Night you wish to use it, type ""##Take In Sunlight"" into the thread to absorb the power of the sun. The following Night, you may use Solar Beam to blast one of your enemies! Solar Beam goes through all protection. If you do not use Solar Beam the night after you charge it, you must charge it again before use. Use Solar Beam by sending ""##Solar Beam: Target"" to the hosts after it is charged!

Tackle: Use Tackle to move someone out of the way and trade places! After you tackle a player, all actions targeted at them will now be redirected to yourself, and all actions targeted at you will be redirected to them! Only useable at Night. This effect will last until the next Night, meaning you are switched with your target for the Day after use as well. Use Tackle by sending ""##Tackle: Target"" to the hosts!

All of your abilities are one-use only. You may only use one ability per night. If you are roleblocked or otherwise unable to accomplish your action when attempting to use your abilities, you will be refunded the use.




You have evolved into Ivysaur.

You gained the following ability:

Sunny Day:
Water type pokemon do 0.25KP less damage. Fire type Pokemon do 0.25KP more damage. Plant pokemon no longer need to charge their powers.

Use it by typing ##Sunny Day in the thread

[image loading]

You are Dratini, a Dragon type Pokemon. Long considered a mythical Pokémon until recently, when a small colony was found living underwater.

Abilities
Hide: Because you are very timid and shy, you must find a place to hide! You have the ability to hide behind one target player each night. Any actions upon you will fail! However, anything that happens to your target will happen to you too.




You evolve into Dragonair! Ah, how you’ve grown. You no longer have an easy time
hiding and must take an extra day to find a suitable hiding spot. You’ve
also noticed you’ve grown orbs under your neck and on your tail! As
pretty as it looks on you, those orbs are worth a lot of money. If you
end up dying, your orbs will be taken. If you are killed at night, then
the killer gets the orbs; if you are lynched, whoever
voted for you last takes the orbs. These orbs can be sold for a power of
their choosing.




You evolve into Dragonite!

You no longer have a serpentine form or orbs and now have wings, arms,
and legs. There is no way you can hide now. Luckily, you feel mighty
strong! You may choose to Outrage when you feel angry at night and
inflict 1 KP [1.5 because of the Dragon-type bonus] worth of damage.
However, when you calm down the next day, you become confused and lose
your ability to vote.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 21:16 GMT
#2140
Obs QT T_T
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