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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 21:03 GMT
#1285
...And time. Did we mislynch?
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 21:07 GMT
#1289
On August 10 2012 06:03 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 06:01 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 10 2012 05:56 JingleHell wrote:
On August 10 2012 05:52 Ange777 wrote:
Funny, it never occured to me that your awesome play saved us and will win us this game. If you can't talk to us without being sore than please just shut up.


I've tried to. But every time I do, people bitch at me for not talking more. And then when I answer, they ask for me to get banned from TL Mafia. I think I have a bit of a right to have an issue with that.

And yeah, given that you were all dancing nicely to DP's tune until I called him out, I'll take a bit of credit.

And as for Shady, if you think I'm likely to be wrong about Alan, maybe you should have posted analysis along those lines to clear him and push a better target, instead of sheeping on someone who you think is a horrible player.


Were we dancing to DP's tune? Ange and aRyuu posted on DP about a page before you did, if I recall. You didn't join in on DP until DP inexplicably defended you in one of his posts.


I don't remember DP leading the votes until I called him out.

And I notice you're managing to ignore what I said. If you don't like hearing what I have to say, let me ignore you. We'll all be happier.


That's because Ange and aRyuu made their cases while most of us were asleep or at work. The issue is, as a confirmed townie, if you choose to ignore me, essentially it means that we can't keep you in town for LYLO either, which means we *have* to lynch you tomorrow since a no-lynch equals LYLO.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 21:11 GMT
#1299
YES! =)
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 21:25 GMT
#1308
Ange is freaking amazing. If town had all been sheeping me we would all be dead by now T_T

And sorry JingleHell for pushing you so hard. Kept getting frustrated that you were never posting a proper defense =P
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 21:27 GMT
#1310
On August 10 2012 06:12 Ange777 wrote:
I CLAIM GIRL ... oh no that was the wrong one >_< ...

I CLAIM MEDIC!

Night 1:
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On July 30 2012 05:41 Ange777 wrote:
So I only got back now and read through the thread. Apparently people still don't see the need to be more active in this game. Voting your strongest scum read and then abstain from further discussion is not exactly pro town behaviour. Especially if there was so much worth of discussion and several people just did not care to comment on other scum candidates expect for Golbat.

Keep in mind please that I am not satisfied with goodkarma's (non-existent) response to my accusation. Entering the thread and shifting the discussion from scum hunting to policy lynches ... this is not town play! I still have goodkarma marked as my strongest scum read.


SAVE KEI

Night 2:
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On August 02 2012 05:49 Ange777 wrote:
Seeing as night is ending and no one else wants to join this discussion is so frustrating. As townie you should really be playing with your win-con in mind. Valid RL excuses are kind of acceptable but you should have known what you signed up for. Even if you just subbed in there has been plenty of time to form an opinion on everybody by now, not stating your reads is anti town play.

Going to bed in a couple of minutes (Have to see the doc tomorrow). Keep posting guys.


SAVE GK

Night 3:
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On August 05 2012 05:58 Ange777 wrote:
So I guess there is a pretty decent chance that I might be shot tonight. As I already stated I am convinced that we have nailed the second scum in Jingle. Veto the case as much as you want Jingle, there is no way you can wriggle yourself out of this. Extremely obvious scum play like this can't be ignored.

On to the third scum. Bsed on the theory Shady already mentioned with scum actively trying to counter bandwagon the Zork case there is one more player I think we need to analyze closely. Very much unsuspected by most of the players ... DarthPunk. I believe only goodkarma called him out. Originally I had a town read on him, he came across as a thoughtful poster who analyzed the play of others first before jumping on any kind of bandwagon. Under normal circumstances I probably still wouldn't have noticed him but the recent situation with Zork made me reconsider. See for yourselves:


SAVE OBVIOUS

Night 4:
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On August 08 2012 05:59 Ange777 wrote:
Another night in which I am not sure whether I'll survive or not. Now here is my candidate for the day 4 lynch. You might have guessed, it's Alan. Originally flying very very low under the radar, I was not really paying attention to him. Naive me! Eventually with all my other scum reads flipping scum or getting town cred he is the only one left from my original list.

Read through his filter please. Even compared with aRyuujin's filter it is rather sparse, especially when you look for any kind of clear stances and opinions. Alan has been sheeping town and only giving us few content posts. DarthPunk is not even once mentioned by Alan until late day 3. I don't know why he would not address DarthPunk in his posts except for being scum. Not to mention that he also didn't talk to/about Zork (besides replying to a "Why haven't you answered yet post") before the case against Zork gained momentum. Go and look at Jingle's case on Alan which points to a few of those suspicious posts from Alan: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353315&currentpage=46#908

This alone would not be damning enough in my eyes if it wasn't for his wishy-washy stance regarding the DarthPunk lynch.
He claimed that he is 100% convinced that Jingle is scum but still would be lynching his only second best scum read DarthPunk. I don't know how he went from not mentioning DarthPunk even once to him being his second best scum read. Such a sad thing that scum has not learned how to bus right?
-snip-


So I hope this can convince you of Alan's scum-alignment. How else would you explain the flip flop play in the last hours before a lynch of his scum buddy? Alan is scum! Don't get uncertain by his defense because if he had believed what he wrote, he would have actually voted DarthPunk as he claimed that in his eyes Jingle got a bit of town cred.
*Yes, this scenario is based on the town Jingle theory which I think should be the most probable right now.


ANYONE READING THIS? At the beginning I was even afraid of it being to obvious ....

SHADY

Man, those words with V were really giving me headaches


I wish there was a heart emoticon somewhere in the smilies and bbcode.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 21:28 GMT
#1311
On August 10 2012 06:12 Hapahauli wrote:
GG Town! Hats off to Ange777 for the DP lynch, as well as Shady Sands - descending the cliff at Helms Deep to get Zorkmid lynched.


Heh, yep. Most of the time I was trying to set myself up as the hammer on any votes, so as to make life harder for scum =)
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 03:42:57
August 10 2012 03:42 GMT
#1331
Recap:

Golbat: Sorry. We messed up on you, but you made yourself a really easy target, too. A valuable lesson.

Mordanis: Was fun playing with you. Sorry about pushing for the lynch, but eventually figured out that you weren't scum because no one was really coordinating with your points.

Darthpunk: Sorry that I'm frustrating lol =). The Zork lynch boiled down the fact that Ange's arguments made sense, while yours and Alan's didn't. Your lynch boiled down to a rather big mistake from you in defending Jingle (and not bussing him.) In all honesty, I'm not that great of a player, I just got lucky with scumslips.

Ange777: Wow. You are awesome. If I ever go to Germany I am definitely treating you to a nice dinner or something because play this good deserves a reward.

GoodKarma, Obvious, aRyuujin: You, Obvious, and aRyuujin I don't have as strong an impression of, but I enjoyed playing with all three of you. You guys worked hard. Let's do this again sometime. As for aRyuujin specifically, I think you laid out a great defense of why you weren't scum even though you were on the Mordanis train. Definitely a post that I'll bookmark for my future play.

JingleHell: Sorry this game wasn't as enjoyable for you as it was for the rest of us. Your play was honestly frustrating to interpret, since the more angry you became, the more convinced I was that you were putting on an act to cover up any potential scumslips. This probably put us into a negative cycle, which I'll be sure to avoid in the future. A valuable lesson all around.

Promethelax: Honestly, Keir scared the shit out of me in the Mason thread, which is why I tunneled you so hard on D2. I was actually leaning Zork/Obvious (hindsight is 20/20, I know) but Keir's warnings + your whole "trusted townie" circle just put our scum-meters into red alert. Sorry.

Zorkmid: Zork, no offense, but you were probably the weak link in the scum chain (just as I was the weak link in the town chain). I look forward to watching us improve together.

alan: You're really good at this, I can tell. The existence of a medic kind of made things wierd regarding analyzing you, because your play fit the blue role perfectly. In retrospect, the fact that scum hadn't sniped you yet should have set off alarm bells in my head. Good play nonetheless.

Keirathi: Buddy! Thanks so much for putting up with me. I'm sorry to make you do that. You are 10x a better player at this game, and you gave me tons of tips early on in the game.

Blazinghand: Thanks so much. You are the best coach ever, and had it not been for your coaching, I don't think I could have contributed to town in much of a meaningful way. Keep it up. You've inspired me to keep learning this game, and I have no doubts you will inspire others to do the same!
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 10 2012 04:08 GMT
#1333
On August 10 2012 13:02 Mordanis wrote:
I still think the biggest scum-slip of the entire game was the way that Alan got pissed off at Zork for scum-slipping. I would have pushed that a lot harder...

Also, the scariest part of the entire game was Shady's statement that if GK flipped scum, Ange or anyone else could also be scum. Ignoring the fact that I don't think it would make sense in any situation, it was saying there were still multiple scum left in the game. I'm was afraid the entire game would enravel...


Hah, I mean that if we thought GK was scum, the same logic would also make Ange or anyone else scum too. Sorry, bad wording on my part
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