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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 08 2012 00:52 GMT
#1246
Anyhow, I am eager to hear counterarguments from Alan, Jingle, and aRyuu, since you three are the likeliest lynch candidates over the next two days.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 08 2012 01:51 GMT
#1249
GK where are you? This could very well be the final lynch of the game, get in here and contribute!
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 08 2012 02:52 GMT
#1252
On August 08 2012 11:16 goodkarma wrote:
@Shady:

I'm here, but I had a pretty lengthy case write-up. Took a while to write. I'll be around the next few hours and actively following the thread. So if you, or anyone else for that matter (especially alan) have anything to comment on for my case feel free to let me know. And of course, if I have anything else to add I'll chime in.


Got it, I'm reading through it.

Now time for aRyuujin to pipe up.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 08 2012 09:52 GMT
#1254
So right now, other than JingleHell, everyone has voted Alan. We have enough for a lynch now.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 08 2012 23:01 GMT
#1261
Since Alan is not medic, I am comfortable voting for him. Even a mislynch would be fine at this point--it would put us into MYLO tomorrow, and with a medic, we could no-lynch tomorrow to essentially force scum to possibly waste a KP.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 08 2012 23:20 GMT
#1262
On August 09 2012 08:01 Shady Sands wrote:
Since Alan is not medic, I am comfortable voting for him. Even a mislynch would be fine at this point--it would put us into MYLO tomorrow, and with a medic, we could no-lynch tomorrow to essentially force scum to possibly waste a KP.


That being said, I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks is the best lynch target if Alan flips green. JingleHell's posting behavior is really weird. He's been quiet ever since the Day post, and didn't offer any analysis on his Alan vote.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 01:28 GMT
#1263
Jingle where are you? Why are you voting Alan?
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 01:50 GMT
#1265
On August 09 2012 10:42 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 10:28 Shady Sands wrote:
Jingle where are you? Why are you voting Alan?


I'm voting for Alan for a pisston of reasons already stated, and if I had made some obscenely long post re-detailing all of those things, you would instead be nattering on about clutter, so I'll just save myself some time instead, thanks?

I mean, I'm aware you're pissed that I made a point about DP and was right with it, since you were so busy tunneling me to a mislynch based on WIFOM, because I tunneled the wrong guy based on WIFOM once too, but you could have the good graces not to be a tart about the obvious.


Jingle, if I was really pissed I wouldn't be asking for your input.

Right now, all of us need to step up to the plate and actually provide analysis. The more analysis on the table, the likelier that we are to get this lynch right.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 01:52 GMT
#1266
The more you respond to legitimate requests for casework with hostility, the more you look like a scum read who's just deliberately being hostile to dodge having to give reasons for your votes.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 02:31 GMT
#1268
On August 09 2012 10:54 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 10:52 Shady Sands wrote:
The more you respond to legitimate requests for casework with hostility, the more you look like a scum read who's just deliberately being hostile to dodge having to give reasons for your votes.


And the more you talk, the more I plan to /out of any game I see you sign up for, so I guess we're even. If you could get the fuck over yourself for thirty damn seconds, you'd realize that overall, I'm the last person who owes analysis on Alan, since between me and Ange, about 60-70% of the case against him comes from two people.


Alan actually posted two long-ish defenses before you cast your vote, which is what I think you should respond to.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 06:22 GMT
#1270
On August 09 2012 12:03 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 11:31 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 09 2012 10:54 JingleHell wrote:
On August 09 2012 10:52 Shady Sands wrote:
The more you respond to legitimate requests for casework with hostility, the more you look like a scum read who's just deliberately being hostile to dodge having to give reasons for your votes.


And the more you talk, the more I plan to /out of any game I see you sign up for, so I guess we're even. If you could get the fuck over yourself for thirty damn seconds, you'd realize that overall, I'm the last person who owes analysis on Alan, since between me and Ange, about 60-70% of the case against him comes from two people.


Alan actually posted two long-ish defenses before you cast your vote, which is what I think you should respond to.


If my play is as terrible as everyone wants to make it out to be, that's the last thing you should want. Would you really want me to accidentally undermine the effort with my oh so horrendous town play that everyone loves to talk shit about?


Posting analysis isn't anti-town. I'm not sure anyone here thinks that. So when you're posting analysis, that's not horrendous town play, that's good town play.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 19:18 GMT
#1271
So after reading through GK's and aRyuu's posts, nothing looks out of order. I read through Alan's defenses one more time as well. One thing that struck me as odd about Alan was his insistence on asking us all to consider scenarios in which he is green, but he never actually added any specifics about those scenarios. Basically, who is the scum if Alan is green? He hasn't mentioned anything about that, which just adds to my scum read on him.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 19:48 GMT
#1273
On August 10 2012 04:25 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 04:18 Shady Sands wrote:
So after reading through GK's and aRyuu's posts, nothing looks out of order. I read through Alan's defenses one more time as well. One thing that struck me as odd about Alan was his insistence on asking us all to consider scenarios in which he is green, but he never actually added any specifics about those scenarios. Basically, who is the scum if Alan is green? He hasn't mentioned anything about that, which just adds to my scum read on him.


well, let's think about it.
The only people left would be

aRyuujin
Shady
ange
GK
Jingle

(minus whoever gets NKed)

Shady/ange I'd say are pretty much guaranteed town.
I know I'm town, and you guys really ought to be looking somewhere else, seeing as without me, Jingle would've been lynched.
So GK vs Jingle...




The thing is, if GK is scum then the whole Mordanis scumtrain isn't true. Then it means that all of a sudden, anyone could be scum--it could even be Ange, who we could say has just been doing an extended bussing trick to get the 2 mislynches necessary for scum to win.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 20:09 GMT
#1274
1 more hour to go.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 20:37 GMT
#1276
On August 10 2012 04:25 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 04:18 Shady Sands wrote:
So after reading through GK's and aRyuu's posts, nothing looks out of order. I read through Alan's defenses one more time as well. One thing that struck me as odd about Alan was his insistence on asking us all to consider scenarios in which he is green, but he never actually added any specifics about those scenarios. Basically, who is the scum if Alan is green? He hasn't mentioned anything about that, which just adds to my scum read on him.


well, let's think about it.
The only people left would be

aRyuujin
Shady
ange
GK
Jingle

(minus whoever gets NKed)

Shady/ange I'd say are pretty much guaranteed town.
I know I'm town, and you guys really ought to be looking somewhere else, seeing as without me, Jingle would've been lynched.
So GK vs Jingle...




Overall, I'd say Jingle is still the clearest lynch target. He hasn't posted a thing since the night 4 post, and he's basically attempted to use "being angry" as an excuse to refrain from posting any additional analysis.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 20:51 GMT
#1278
On August 10 2012 05:44 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 05:37 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 10 2012 04:25 aRyuujin wrote:
On August 10 2012 04:18 Shady Sands wrote:
So after reading through GK's and aRyuu's posts, nothing looks out of order. I read through Alan's defenses one more time as well. One thing that struck me as odd about Alan was his insistence on asking us all to consider scenarios in which he is green, but he never actually added any specifics about those scenarios. Basically, who is the scum if Alan is green? He hasn't mentioned anything about that, which just adds to my scum read on him.


well, let's think about it.
The only people left would be

aRyuujin
Shady
ange
GK
Jingle

(minus whoever gets NKed)

Shady/ange I'd say are pretty much guaranteed town.
I know I'm town, and you guys really ought to be looking somewhere else, seeing as without me, Jingle would've been lynched.
So GK vs Jingle...




Overall, I'd say Jingle is still the clearest lynch target. He hasn't posted a thing since the night 4 post, and he's basically attempted to use "being angry" as an excuse to refrain from posting any additional analysis.


You know, if you're going to go crying in the TL Mafia ban thread about me being a meany poopoo head, you could try learning from the thread and realize I've actually been doing my best to ignore you when I'm not busy turning a logical case into bizarre WIFOM to convince you to vote for the guy who flips scum.

You call me out and complain about my play when it's saved the town's ass once already, and is probably about to win the game for us. And if you want to talk about "if Alan flips green" the highest lynch priority should be whoever brought it up.

I'm definitely not going to answer to someone who won't let me ignore them, and who does complain about the responses they get when they actively try to push me out of the thread and then complain about it working.


I'm not sure if anyone's been trying to push you out of the thread--all of us have encouraged you to post analysis, not angrish, here.

Onto a more relevant topic: what do you mean that "the highest lynch priority should be whoever brought it up?"
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 20:53 GMT
#1280
On August 10 2012 05:51 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 05:44 JingleHell wrote:
On August 10 2012 05:37 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 10 2012 04:25 aRyuujin wrote:
On August 10 2012 04:18 Shady Sands wrote:
So after reading through GK's and aRyuu's posts, nothing looks out of order. I read through Alan's defenses one more time as well. One thing that struck me as odd about Alan was his insistence on asking us all to consider scenarios in which he is green, but he never actually added any specifics about those scenarios. Basically, who is the scum if Alan is green? He hasn't mentioned anything about that, which just adds to my scum read on him.


well, let's think about it.
The only people left would be

aRyuujin
Shady
ange
GK
Jingle

(minus whoever gets NKed)

Shady/ange I'd say are pretty much guaranteed town.
I know I'm town, and you guys really ought to be looking somewhere else, seeing as without me, Jingle would've been lynched.
So GK vs Jingle...




Overall, I'd say Jingle is still the clearest lynch target. He hasn't posted a thing since the night 4 post, and he's basically attempted to use "being angry" as an excuse to refrain from posting any additional analysis.


You know, if you're going to go crying in the TL Mafia ban thread about me being a meany poopoo head, you could try learning from the thread and realize I've actually been doing my best to ignore you when I'm not busy turning a logical case into bizarre WIFOM to convince you to vote for the guy who flips scum.

You call me out and complain about my play when it's saved the town's ass once already, and is probably about to win the game for us. And if you want to talk about "if Alan flips green" the highest lynch priority should be whoever brought it up.

I'm definitely not going to answer to someone who won't let me ignore them, and who does complain about the responses they get when they actively try to push me out of the thread and then complain about it working.


I'm not sure if anyone's been trying to push you out of the thread--all of us have encouraged you to post analysis, not angrish, here.

Onto a more relevant topic: what do you mean that "the highest lynch priority should be whoever brought it up?"


Also note that you were the first one to push a case on Alan, so if Alan flips green, then by logic you haven't helped the town at all.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 20:53 GMT
#1281
7 more minutes.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 21:01 GMT
#1283
On August 10 2012 05:56 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 05:52 Ange777 wrote:
Funny, it never occured to me that your awesome play saved us and will win us this game. If you can't talk to us without being sore than please just shut up.


I've tried to. But every time I do, people bitch at me for not talking more. And then when I answer, they ask for me to get banned from TL Mafia. I think I have a bit of a right to have an issue with that.

And yeah, given that you were all dancing nicely to DP's tune until I called him out, I'll take a bit of credit.

And as for Shady, if you think I'm likely to be wrong about Alan, maybe you should have posted analysis along those lines to clear him and push a better target, instead of sheeping on someone who you think is a horrible player.


Were we dancing to DP's tune? Ange and aRyuu posted on DP about a page before you did, if I recall. You didn't join in on DP until DP inexplicably defended you in one of his posts.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 09 2012 21:02 GMT
#1284
On August 10 2012 05:56 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 05:52 Ange777 wrote:
Funny, it never occured to me that your awesome play saved us and will win us this game. If you can't talk to us without being sore than please just shut up.


I've tried to. But every time I do, people bitch at me for not talking more. And then when I answer, they ask for me to get banned from TL Mafia. I think I have a bit of a right to have an issue with that.

And yeah, given that you were all dancing nicely to DP's tune until I called him out, I'll take a bit of credit.

And as for Shady, if you think I'm likely to be wrong about Alan, maybe you should have posted analysis along those lines to clear him and push a better target, instead of sheeping on someone who you think is a horrible player.


And I never said it was likely you're wrong about Alan. I'm saying that if Alan flips green, you have lead responsibility.
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