EPTOn July 20 2012 07:47 supersoft wrote:
syllo, sandro
opinion:
zealos first because kurumi seems to have no powers today?
syllo, sandro
opinion:
zealos first because kurumi seems to have no powers today?
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[QUOTE]On July 04 2012 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Will those at the top of the scum hierarchy know the powers of those at the bottom?[/QUOTE] They will know what exists, not who has what. | ||
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On July 06 2012 09:28 Protactinium wrote: They will know what exists, not who has what. | ||
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Also he doesn't appear to be doing anything to look for scum. It's possible he is and just hasn't shared or whatever...but that seems pretty anti-productive in this setup. EVERYONE has a vested interest in establishing their innocence. I don't like it. Think it stinks. I think he might be scuuuum. | ||
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On July 20 2012 09:18 marvellosity wrote: Your note is good enough. I have a hatred for people who post like that anyway. If I were offered right now for him to be dead or alive, I'd choose dead. Why? WHY? ARGH this is like the third game you've said this in! I LOVE it! Like, yeah okay - it makes reading him harder. But I mean - so? That's the point of the game! I have my own strategy for making myself harder to read (trying to post the same way as Town/Scum and post A LOT)...why the hate for Chez' strategy? And do you think he's scum? Or is that like, a Policy Lynch? Because your phrasing leaves that pretty ambiguous doesn't it? | ||
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On July 20 2012 09:37 Zealos wrote: Right now people are starting to talk about you, but I suspect that if you put in a little bit of time soon they will forget. Town has a lot to go through in terms of lynch, so if you shape up even a little bit I'm sure they will soon forget. If you have any useful abilities from your role please try to crumb it subtly during the next day so in the next message I can suggest you how to use it. Hopefully this communication problem will be gone by tomorrow. sigh That's clearly designed to look like a scum message Zeal. :/ | ||
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WAH WAH WAAAAAH  | ||
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Unless you're scum, then keep the hits coming bro.  | ||
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Not working. YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE?!!? | ||
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Also, your whole accusation is contradictory now...you said he's "putting in a lot of effort" and now you say "sounds like lazy scum". Have you fooled me to now BH? ARE you scum like people keep saying? | ||
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On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote: This thread is so messy it's not even funny. Here's what needs to happen: Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc) There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory. There's "hard evidence" on Zeal too sweetie, read those 10 pages before reprimanding us. The question of whether we lynch Zeal or Kurumi isn't an arbitrary one, if they're both scum (likely) then it becomes a question of whether it's prudent to kill the one who might still have a power or kill the one who lived when he should have died. I tend to agree that Kurumi needs to die first, but I don't fault anyone for thinking Zeal is a better target at this point...who knows what other powers scum have? | ||
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TBH if we're switching I'd want to switch to Foolishness anyway. Skidoosh? So....I'm gonna go read WBG's posts right now. I want someone else to do the same. Anyone can, but I'm doing it too. Hypothesis: WBG was killed for a reason. | ||
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I missed this post. <3 I was literally talking about myself. | ||
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VisceraEyes Attempt At Night-Kill Analysis First, the reason I've done this: the mafia kill mechanic. On July 02 2012 16:07 Protactinium wrote: Extra Information: The mafia kill process goes like this: Every day, all mafia members except for the CEO send in a name on who they wish to kill. Then, the CEO must choose to kill one player on the list by the night deadline. So, here's my theory: this night-kill holds significance because A) I haven't done this analysis yet and B) This night is the most likely that the CEO does not know who his minions are yet. The information that the CEO has, as I understand it, is the names of his two Executives. And the information that the Executives have are the names of the minions. But all mafia but the CEO must submit a name for the night-kill. So this means 2 things. 1) that the night-kills will more likely have an actual reason other than "to throw town off" or "blue snipe" and 2) that the CEO gets information on who his minions are by who they want to kill. Given all of this, my assumption is that Blazinghand is Mafia. First of all, just so we're clear, I do NOT have the ability to block nukes. Nothing stops a nuke. It's a nuke. I guess it's possible, but I very seriously doubt it for two reasons. 1) because RoL had a dud nuke. It never had a chance of exploding, ever. And 2) Because as Bugs commented earlier - if BH was town and had a block available, he would have blocked Kurumi's nuke the moment he found out that Kurumi was scum. Regardless of the fact that scum minions don't know who each other are, it is a net gain for town to prevent mafia from achieving their objectives. Period. Kurumi could have been under direct orders to fire that nuke for all we know. So right now I'm looking at something like... Kurumi, Zealos, Foolishness, Blazinghand ...if we're talking about my like...really heavy strong scum reads. Layabout is still up there, and here's something else I found that was interesting: On July 17 2012 10:04 wherebugsgo wrote: <3 I believe you're the only one who even acknowledged my question. I agree with all three kills but I'd rank them differently. Wouldn't mind killing Blazingscum and layabout too, they're all scum. All scum, god damn them. Oh and Wiggles is AFK. Just thought I'd throw that out there, he hasn't posted yet. Possibly rolled scum again, the bastard. OH and BM is afk too. Wtf? Well hell, half the players are afk. W/e. Let's focus on one player first: Shit that makes layabout scummy: Read his filter first, it's not long at all. Keep that in mind for a second. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=233798 He does nothing but shed doubt on sandro's claim. He instantly disbelieves it without considering other evidence. He knows the caliber of sandro's town play yet he doesn't even acknowledge the possibility that sandro could be town. In addition he's stayed toward the back of the discussion, as he does when he is scum. When he is town he is out in front if he thinks people are being stupid. He will kick and scream and call people retarded if they're doing something he disagrees with. Clearly he disagrees with us sheeping sandro on his catch of Kurumi (otherwise why else would he shed doubt on it?) but notice that he actually doesn't do anything to stop the wagon. i.e. his doubt is unfounded and he wants to undermine sandro without taking heat for the action itself. Scum tactic. Kurumi is going to die at the end of the day. Thus, we should kill someone else. Let's kill this guy for now. Make the bad man fly. ##unvote ##vote layabout Which further makes me question my read on marvellosity to be honest. Starting to think marvellosity is scum too, because layabout goes unnoticed by marvellosity in spite of On July 19 2012 21:01 marvellosity wrote: I'd like to give this some love. I started off reading it sceptically but at the end I was down with it. Meapak demonstrates in rastaban what I would classify as the classic mafia mindset in this setup - not rocking the boat, going with the flow, not drawing attention to yourself with dissent. rastaban this game is classic mafia. ...being the reason marv gave for agreeing with MZ's case. Considering marv's high regard for Bugs as a player, I'd expect a town marv to be all up on layabout after Bugs post on him. But Bugs must have been killed for a reason. tl:dr -
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