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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 16 2012 22:36 GMT
#541
On July 17 2012 07:27 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:21 risk.nuke wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:51 supersoft wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:
##vote kurumi
Kurumi looks pretty busted. His first response to the accusation I can't buy. Feels like a poor scum-excuse but a nonexistant townexcuse and his posts after that are aligned with what I would expect from a busted scum.


hahaha, you still think it's necessary to reason your vote if we got a case that clear? He claimed scum dude?

It never hurt to state why you think what. He didn't claim scum, he got busted for something. Don't mix those up. What I did to be objective was I thought on what I might had believed if I had gotten that message and how I could had reacted. I probably wouldn't had thought it was a scum message. I might had believed there were some townie who could send a message to a random confirmed townie or something along those lines. I would had found it very unlikely that it was from a third party.

YOU would find it very unlikely that it was from a third party. I found it the most reasonable. Townie messaging you to do things? Then you find out that NOBODY has done this? I thought about claiming getting this message but 1) I did not get confirmation from hosts I could talk about it 2) I was planning to reveal it close before the night starts/after it starts so we could work things out. I KNEW it wasn't a scum message because that's not how things work. Town doesn't get orders. Scum do. (I was even questioning my alignment) So I went with it. I figured out someone's doing some fun circle, probably Chez so I went with it. Did I think about it as a town message? Not at all. Town DOESN'T GET ORDERS. So I assumed it was third party. It will be so fun when I flip town~

It's never fun when someone flips town. But I don't believe you.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 16 2012 22:36 GMT
#542
On July 17 2012 07:32 Blazinghand wrote:
welp

##unvote
##vote: Kurumi


Tomorrow we lynch Syllo

Nope tomorrow we lynch you =P. You guys lynch syllo day 5 or so if he has not raped all mafia by then =)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 16 2012 22:37 GMT
#543
On July 17 2012 07:36 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:32 Blazinghand wrote:
welp

##unvote
##vote: Kurumi


Tomorrow we lynch Syllo

Nope tomorrow we lynch you =P. You guys lynch syllo day 5 or so if he has not raped all mafia by then =)


nope tomorrow we lynch syllo. we'll lynch syllo day 2 because he is mafia ez
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 22:37 GMT
#544
On July 17 2012 07:36 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:27 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:21 risk.nuke wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:51 supersoft wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:
##vote kurumi
Kurumi looks pretty busted. His first response to the accusation I can't buy. Feels like a poor scum-excuse but a nonexistant townexcuse and his posts after that are aligned with what I would expect from a busted scum.


hahaha, you still think it's necessary to reason your vote if we got a case that clear? He claimed scum dude?

It never hurt to state why you think what. He didn't claim scum, he got busted for something. Don't mix those up. What I did to be objective was I thought on what I might had believed if I had gotten that message and how I could had reacted. I probably wouldn't had thought it was a scum message. I might had believed there were some townie who could send a message to a random confirmed townie or something along those lines. I would had found it very unlikely that it was from a third party.

YOU would find it very unlikely that it was from a third party. I found it the most reasonable. Townie messaging you to do things? Then you find out that NOBODY has done this? I thought about claiming getting this message but 1) I did not get confirmation from hosts I could talk about it 2) I was planning to reveal it close before the night starts/after it starts so we could work things out. I KNEW it wasn't a scum message because that's not how things work. Town doesn't get orders. Scum do. (I was even questioning my alignment) So I went with it. I figured out someone's doing some fun circle, probably Chez so I went with it. Did I think about it as a town message? Not at all. Town DOESN'T GET ORDERS. So I assumed it was third party. It will be so fun when I flip town~

It's never fun when someone flips town. But I don't believe you.

Well, we'll see who'll be laughing when I die. I just pointed out a scumslip on a scummy player, so go figure. I'll stick around, this might get better when modkills kick in.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 16 2012 22:38 GMT
#545
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 22:40 GMT
#546
On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die

Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 16 2012 22:41 GMT
#547
On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die

Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you?

Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 16 2012 22:41 GMT
#548
On July 17 2012 07:34 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:30 syllogism wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:29 Katina wrote:
I would like to bring attention back to Foolishness' post against syllogism. Kurumi's fate looks sealed. I like the points that were brought up and the evidence that was presented. I was a bit suspicios of syllogism (even though I didn't like the idea of lynching him today)

And to save some posts just because I like Foolishness' case doesn't mean that I think he's in the clear.

Really, which point specifically do you like and what "evidence"? Did you forget about palmar already?


No I didn't forget about Palmar. I'm more focused on Kurumi and what's going on in the thread right now. I liked how Foolishness took the time to go through past games and used your posts to link together Mafia behavoir in other games.
Take it easy, my vote is on Kurumi.

He didn't link together anything. Read his post again and look how much of that post is related to my play so far in this game and how much is just random meaningless posts he pulled from another game. Yes, I ask questions as mafia, but that's also what I do as town. The difference being that, as mafia, my questions are much more likely to be meaningless or something I don't actually consider relevant. In this game that is clearly not the case.

Foolishness you still haven't answered my question. You flat out stated that me "not wanting to defend myself" is indicative of me being mafia. So I want you to specifically quote the post you think, at the time, warranted defense from me.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 22:42 GMT
#549
On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die

Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you?

Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip.

You are making this so easy.
I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 16 2012 22:43 GMT
#550
On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die

Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you?

Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip.

You are making this so easy.
I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me?

._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 22:46 GMT
#551
On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die

Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you?

Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip.

You are making this so easy.
I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me?

._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now.

Why not the case on you? It sounds cool.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
July 16 2012 22:48 GMT
#552
Lol @ Kurumi trying to insinuate that mafia know who town are in this setup (hint: they don't)

The desperate flailings and failings of a caught scum, too funny.

Also marv is a good scumhunter, an honorable scumhunter, let no harm befall him. Marv if you're town don't go afk, just ignore Kurumi. You can help me and sandro and whoever else is on town side. I'm still reading, but thoughts to come in a few hours after my lab.

Barring Kurumi I'd like to hear who Katina, Palmar, sandro, and syllo would kill right now.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 16 2012 22:49 GMT
#553
On July 17 2012 07:46 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die

Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you?

Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip.

You are making this so easy.
I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me?

._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now.

Why not the case on you? It sounds cool.

God, I don't care, just do something useful. Do you really think you're helping town by flapping around like this? Or are you just trying to waste people's time efficiently until nightfall?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 22:50 GMT
#554
On July 17 2012 07:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol @ Kurumi trying to insinuate that mafia know who town are in this setup (hint: they don't)

The desperate flailings and failings of a caught scum, too funny.

Also marv is a good scumhunter, an honorable scumhunter, let no harm befall him. Marv if you're town don't go afk, just ignore Kurumi. You can help me and sandro and whoever else is on town side. I'm still reading, but thoughts to come in a few hours after my lab.

Barring Kurumi I'd like to hear who Katina, Palmar, sandro, and syllo would kill right now.

Sandroba mafia MVP indeed. So since they're going to kill you Sandie, can you explain to us why RoL is not scum?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 22:52 GMT
#555
On July 17 2012 07:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:46 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die

Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you?

Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip.

You are making this so easy.
I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me?

._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now.

Why not the case on you? It sounds cool.

God, I don't care, just do something useful. Do you really think you're helping town by flapping around like this? Or are you just trying to waste people's time efficiently until nightfall?

Do you honestly think people are going to reread ANYTHING I post? Do you honestly think people CARE? No, they don't. Sorry man, but there's not much I can do. I can only sit there and watch.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 16 2012 22:52 GMT
#556
On July 17 2012 07:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol @ Kurumi trying to insinuate that mafia know who town are in this setup (hint: they don't)

The desperate flailings and failings of a caught scum, too funny.

Also marv is a good scumhunter, an honorable scumhunter, let no harm befall him. Marv if you're town don't go afk, just ignore Kurumi. You can help me and sandro and whoever else is on town side. I'm still reading, but thoughts to come in a few hours after my lab.

Barring Kurumi I'd like to hear who Katina, Palmar, sandro, and syllo would kill right now.


Palmar mostly. Wouldn't mind syllo, or Mattchew.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 16 2012 22:54 GMT
#557
On July 17 2012 07:52 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:46 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die

Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you?

Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip.

You are making this so easy.
I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me?

._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now.

Why not the case on you? It sounds cool.

God, I don't care, just do something useful. Do you really think you're helping town by flapping around like this? Or are you just trying to waste people's time efficiently until nightfall?

Do you honestly think people are going to reread ANYTHING I post? Do you honestly think people CARE? No, they don't. Sorry man, but there's not much I can do. I can only sit there and watch.

NO. NOT IF YOIU'RE TOWN IT'S NOT.

Look Kurumi. Imagine, for a moment, that you're town, and not scum, which you clearly are. If you are town, you KNOW yuou're gonna flip town when you're lycnhed. So instead of dicking around, you should be MAKING CASES. and ANALYZING and helping. and stuff. That way, when you flip town, people are like "oh, hey he was town" and read your shit and hey, despite being mislynched you helped.

Right now, you're doing none of that. You're just being either a) town who's so whiny he's stopped helping or b) scum who got caught and is butthurt and at this point it's clear that it's b)
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 22:57 GMT
#558
On July 17 2012 07:54 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:52 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:46 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die

Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you?

Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip.

You are making this so easy.
I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me?

._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now.

Why not the case on you? It sounds cool.

God, I don't care, just do something useful. Do you really think you're helping town by flapping around like this? Or are you just trying to waste people's time efficiently until nightfall?

Do you honestly think people are going to reread ANYTHING I post? Do you honestly think people CARE? No, they don't. Sorry man, but there's not much I can do. I can only sit there and watch.

NO. NOT IF YOIU'RE TOWN IT'S NOT.

Look Kurumi. Imagine, for a moment, that you're town, and not scum, which you clearly are. If you are town, you KNOW yuou're gonna flip town when you're lycnhed. So instead of dicking around, you should be MAKING CASES. and ANALYZING and helping. and stuff. That way, when you flip town, people are like "oh, hey he was town" and read your shit and hey, despite being mislynched you helped.

Right now, you're doing none of that. You're just being either a) town who's so whiny he's stopped helping or b) scum who got caught and is butthurt and at this point it's clear that it's b)

I thought about playing like that guy Blazinghand in one of mafia games where he posted videos pictures and stuff but I decided that it sucks.
People rarely re-read things dead people have written. That's why our towns suck so much. We ignore what confirmed vets/good players have written. The last game had austin, who made couple of HUUUUUUUGE posts which were very good. Guess what. Buried. Forsaken. Nobody cared. About a guy, who DID good job. Why would they care about me?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 16 2012 22:59 GMT
#559
Get behind me BH, he's trying to draw you into a bureaucratic fight to the death. I'm immune to his paperwork.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 16 2012 22:59 GMT
#560
On July 17 2012 07:57 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:54 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:52 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:46 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die

Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you?

Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip.

You are making this so easy.
I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me?

._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now.

Why not the case on you? It sounds cool.

God, I don't care, just do something useful. Do you really think you're helping town by flapping around like this? Or are you just trying to waste people's time efficiently until nightfall?

Do you honestly think people are going to reread ANYTHING I post? Do you honestly think people CARE? No, they don't. Sorry man, but there's not much I can do. I can only sit there and watch.

NO. NOT IF YOIU'RE TOWN IT'S NOT.

Look Kurumi. Imagine, for a moment, that you're town, and not scum, which you clearly are. If you are town, you KNOW yuou're gonna flip town when you're lycnhed. So instead of dicking around, you should be MAKING CASES. and ANALYZING and helping. and stuff. That way, when you flip town, people are like "oh, hey he was town" and read your shit and hey, despite being mislynched you helped.

Right now, you're doing none of that. You're just being either a) town who's so whiny he's stopped helping or b) scum who got caught and is butthurt and at this point it's clear that it's b)

I thought about playing like that guy Blazinghand in one of mafia games where he posted videos pictures and stuff but I decided that it sucks.
People rarely re-read things dead people have written. That's why our towns suck so much. We ignore what confirmed vets/good players have written. The last game had austin, who made couple of HUUUUUUUGE posts which were very good. Guess what. Buried. Forsaken. Nobody cared. About a guy, who DID good job. Why would they care about me?


OK you know what I'm just gonna let that slide cause clearly I gotta correct some negativity in here. Check it. If you really think town won't listen to what you have to say, that's fine. But I *personally* promise to you that if you post some cases and flip town, I will PUSH THEM for you after you die. You know me-- I can push a case. I'll find one that I find reasonable, and I'll supplement it with my own case. And this will be a grand turning point for TL towns. What do you say?

If you really think TL Towns are bad, whining rather than helping certainly won't make them good.

Come, Kurumi. Let's change things for the better.
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