Bureaucracy Mafia! - Page 27

On July 17 2012 06:58 gonzaw wrote:
Okay just one quick question:

Could Kurumi have used his nuke without claiming he used it? I didn't see the "nuke post" saying "Kurumi launched a nuke"

This mass vote-swing towards Kurumi is suspicious as fuck (although I haven't read the thread so there may be something else to it >_> )

On July 17 2012 06:58 gonzaw wrote:
Okay just one quick question:

Could Kurumi have used his nuke without claiming he used it? I didn't see the "nuke post" saying "Kurumi launched a nuke"

This mass vote-swing towards Kurumi is suspicious as fuck (although I haven't read the thread so there may be something else to it >_> )

On July 17 2012 07:00 layabout wrote:
Sandro why did you claim that you could trick mafia into revealing themselves when you had only tricked one player?

PSA:
No talking to kurumi and spamming up the thread!

On July 17 2012 07:00 layabout wrote:
Sandro why did you claim that you could trick mafia into revealing themselves when you had only tricked one player?

PSA:
No talking to kurumi and spamming up the thread!

On July 17 2012 06:52 Kurumi wrote:
I will say it again:
If I were mafia, when I got this message there should be someone crumbing those words earlier. I was the first person to do that. Why would a Director/CEO NOT do that? Meh.

On July 17 2012 07:07 sandroba wrote:

Meh maybe I should have waited, but I think I'm pretty likely to get killed before getting another use anyway, seeing that the other players that could get shot instead of me are either trolling or not posting enough. Also the other advantage is now mafia will second guess every message they receive.

On July 17 2012 07:10 Foolishness wrote:
Well I was going to say something about Kurumi, but was focusing on syllogism because I'm sure he's mafia more so than Kurumi. At least at the time I did.

##Unvote: syllogism
##Vote: Kurumi

Pretty sure the point is that you had no reason to do so if you are town. But hey I haven't really read the past 5 pages cause it's so spammy.

On July 17 2012 06:51 supersoft wrote:


hahaha, you still think it's necessary to reason your vote if we got a case that clear? He claimed scum dude?

On July 17 2012 07:21 risk.nuke wrote:

It never hurt to state why you think what. He didn't claim scum, he got busted for something. Don't mix those up. What I did to be objective was I thought on what I might had believed if I had gotten that message and how I could had reacted. I probably wouldn't had thought it was a scum message. I might had believed there were some townie who could send a message to a random confirmed townie or something along those lines. I would had found it very unlikely that it was from a third party.

On July 16 2012 23:32 rastaban wrote:
Caught up now, thoughts so far:

First off the random vote is a bad idea, normally the reason it is used is to eliminate mafia influence, but guess what the mafia don't know who each other are so this lynch will be without their influence anyway. We have a golden opportunity to have a lynch today with mafia having to base their judgments on reads, and make hard choices while not able to communicate. Fellow employees do not squander this opportunity!

This leads to my second point, Lynching scum doesn't put someone in the clear, especially this early in the game. They don't know who each other is so they can lynch themselves, so look for sound reasoning not just who they voted for.

@ HiroPro

Third yes mafia only has 1 KP see:

Fourth, While I think a Policy lynch on claiming blues is bad, I do think you bring up a very valid point. As you mention 1 for 1 may not be a bad trade for them so I think we should certainly be extra wary of any claimants and possibly lynch the claimant if it seems fishy, but I think a Policy is going a bit too far.

OK so thats my setup review / plans post, I am now working on locating scum so I will follow up in a bit with my thoughts on who to lynch.

On July 17 2012 00:15 rastaban wrote:

And they get only 1 shot to do so, so they will need to wait before sending it out. and it sounds like names are restricted in someway as well.

Say we start to lynch a minion, then only 1 other person knows he is mafia (the high rank) at most he can probably say don't let this lynch go through. and it gets sent to the other 2 minions, but only if he hadn't said anything before that. or he won't even be able to say that. They also need to wait to hear from the leader or they can't forward on his message. This means more confusion as they have to wait later to try and save someone. This is why this lynch is so unique and a great shot for us to lynch scum.



(full disclosure, I forgot they could send one message now though, which is why I said they would have no impact in my previous post)

On July 17 2012 05:18 rastaban wrote:
I like the case on BH better than the on Mz right. I feel GGQ is right in his assessment that mafia will use the lack of ties to make them more bold in their case rather than second guessing. Look at my play as Serial Killer, I decided to try and play as pro town as possible, I ended up going overboard and tunneling risk.nuke in my effort. I feel like MZ's caution is the sign of town who wants to get things right rather than scum who wants to get the day over with. Think about it we still have more than 24 hours of discussion to go.

As others have also pointed out, he is also trying too hard to find reasons for his votes, it makes them seem fake.

##vote blazinghand

On July 17 2012 07:29 Katina wrote:
I would like to bring attention back to Foolishness' post against syllogism. Kurumi's fate looks sealed. I like the points that were brought up and the evidence that was presented. I was a bit suspicios of syllogism (even though I didn't like the idea of lynching him today)

And to save some posts just because I like Foolishness' case doesn't mean that I think he's in the clear.

On July 17 2012 07:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lol sandroba that was beautiful.

##Vote: Kurumi

So let's talk about tomorrow.

On July 17 2012 07:30 syllogism wrote:

Really, which point specifically do you like and what "evidence"? Did you forget about palmar already?