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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#481
On July 17 2012 06:28 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 06:26 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:26 gonzaw wrote:
Oh he's the one that launched that nuke right?

Yes I did.

Know I may die for my mad detective skills... But I have a secret weapon.. If you kill me mafia... You will die... I've played the mad detective before.. So fear my wrath and listen to what I have to say!

You're Chezinu. You're a lone wolf. Whatever alignment you play you play it your way. You pick themes and stick to them. You like playing. You are interesting and unreadable to every side existing in the game.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 16 2012 21:31 GMT
#482
On July 17 2012 06:28 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:26 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
wbg is like confirmed town so whatever

Like confirmed town... he did nothing. But okay, people will let you pass. For bullshit reasons like trapping a townie.


Na he said he was town in bolded black instead of bolded green like he has been doing

What the fuck? You were complaining I TROLLED in the last game and you're doing the same exact thing. Inconsistent much?


How is that trolling? If he was mafia I don't see him coming into the game and guessing that town wasn't in green in the role PM but was in regular text.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 21:31 GMT
#483
On July 17 2012 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 06:28 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:26 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
wbg is like confirmed town so whatever

Like confirmed town... he did nothing. But okay, people will let you pass. For bullshit reasons like trapping a townie.


Na he said he was town in bolded black instead of bolded green like he has been doing

What the fuck? You were complaining I TROLLED in the last game and you're doing the same exact thing. Inconsistent much?


How is that trolling? If he was mafia I don't see him coming into the game and guessing that town wasn't in green in the role PM but was in regular text.

Are you admitting that you've cheated? FFS
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 16 2012 21:32 GMT
#484
If sandroba can message people why did he reveal his power after outing a single player that he could have pushed without revealing his power?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 16 2012 21:33 GMT
#485
On July 17 2012 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 06:28 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:26 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
wbg is like confirmed town so whatever

Like confirmed town... he did nothing. But okay, people will let you pass. For bullshit reasons like trapping a townie.


Na he said he was town in bolded black instead of bolded green like he has been doing

What the fuck? You were complaining I TROLLED in the last game and you're doing the same exact thing. Inconsistent much?


How is that trolling? If he was mafia I don't see him coming into the game and guessing that town wasn't in green in the role PM but was in regular text.


Why do you play this game if you want to do shit like this.



I don't see any reason for a townie to listen to someone they think is third party.

##Unvote Blazinghand
##Vote Kurumi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 16 2012 21:33 GMT
#486
meh whatever
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 21:33 GMT
#487
On July 17 2012 06:32 layabout wrote:
If sandroba can message people why did he reveal his power after outing a single player that he could have pushed without revealing his power?

Because as I said all he has done this game was to play shouting game, one-liner game, non-meta game.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#488
Marvel did I really just witness you trying to justify a town read using ROLE PM?!?!?

Son, I am disappoint.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 16 2012 21:35 GMT
#489
well he asked

i was happy to keep it to myself
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 21:35 GMT
#490
On July 17 2012 06:33 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:28 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:26 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
wbg is like confirmed town so whatever

Like confirmed town... he did nothing. But okay, people will let you pass. For bullshit reasons like trapping a townie.


Na he said he was town in bolded black instead of bolded green like he has been doing

What the fuck? You were complaining I TROLLED in the last game and you're doing the same exact thing. Inconsistent much?


How is that trolling? If he was mafia I don't see him coming into the game and guessing that town wasn't in green in the role PM but was in regular text.


Why do you play this game if you want to do shit like this.



I don't see any reason for a townie to listen to someone they think is third party.

##Unvote Blazinghand
##Vote Kurumi

I thought about it and worst thing that could've happened to me would be a vigilante/bomber. I felt that following it wouldn't be that bad. Then a quick scan revealed that I was indeed right and it is someone who is NOT Mafia (lack of anyone else doing this)
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 16 2012 21:35 GMT
#491
Nonono...nononononono.

Nono.

No.

That was bad. BAD MARVEL!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 16 2012 21:36 GMT
#492
alright, then i'll get modkilled or something

life goes on
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 16 2012 21:37 GMT
#493
:/

Bad day honey?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 16 2012 21:38 GMT
#494
well it doesn't really matter does it, i didn't think and now it's there and there's nothing i can do about it. why doesn't everyone talk about something else and what will be will be
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 16 2012 21:39 GMT
#495
On July 17 2012 05:56 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 05:22 Foolishness wrote:
Everyone should ignore Mattchew. He's so far off topic that I'm even going to do this Ace style:

Ignore List:
Mattchew
Chezinu - does anyone honestly ever read his posts?

Syllogism is mafia. Non-committal stances, doesn't even want to defend himself. Someone needs to redirect that nuke at marvellosity. And the next time Kurumi uses the phrase "actively lurking" someone should shoot him.

And before someone asks, Palmar is town. Mafia never propose stupid things like random lynches day 1.

##Vote: syllogism


Mafia does stupid things, Palmar does stupid things. Especially when he's Mafia or third party, your reasoning for that is "He can't be that stupid if he's Mafia". Why would you redirect the nuke at marv? I don't like the vote on syllogism right now, especially with your lack of reasoning behind it. You want to shoot Kurumi and redirect a nuke at Marv. Can you elaborate?

That's not what I said. I said mafia don't propose things like random lynch day 1. Palmar does stupid things but there's a big difference between claiming to be a king and trying to get a random lynch day 1 (he even made that txt document as well). Wanting to be a king was stupid but it had an agenda behind it and there were benefits for him to do so. Random lynch day 1 has no agenda and will not help him if he's mafia. He knows it's not going to ever happen so what's the point? Just see how people will respond to him is all he's doing. Being a king pushed an agenda for him; especially so since it was a PM game.

Day 1 nuke is a Kurumi-esque thing to do, but I've said that before about him when he's mafia. I want the nuke redirected at marvellosity because he's mafia.

First, answer yourself a few questions: what has syllogism said this game and about how many posts have you think he's made? Before I voted for him my answers were nothing and about 2. Right now (as far as I can see) he's made 10 posts.

These two posts about syllogism should help:
On July 16 2012 19:09 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 14:49 Probulous wrote:
Wow, that was useful...

Ok since no-one seems to want to actually participate, here are some thoughts of mine of the setup.

Aside from trying to kill town, the only thing that binds mafia as a team is their strategy dictated from above. From my reading this is sent during the night. Thus day 2 is going to be crucial. We should be aware of people who change reads for bad reasons or suddenly become active. Basically anyone who suddenly gains direction overnight will be a good target to poke. As for Day 1, I think participation and clarity will be extra useful because mafia now know that they are setting themselves up for difficulties in Day 2 if they pick targets Day 1. People with clear targets are going to have to work harder to change them if a different CEO strategy comes in.

Thoughts?

My thoughts are that I would like to lynch you for this post. This reads like someone wanting to seem like they are contributing, but you are a smart person so you should know there is no reason to post something like this on day 1. You are basically announcing beforehand what you will consider mafia behavior and as town there is little reason to do that as you specifically want mafia to act according to your expectations.

On July 17 2012 03:26 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 03:17 Katina wrote:
@ Mattchew

What are you talking about? You are the one making absolutely no sense. I know I'm an easy target to get mislynched but that's not going to happen today. You think that scummy people are town and people that aren't that scummy you are pushing for to get lynched. Your points against me are based off of nothing except the fact that your reads are different than mine. I'm trying to find scum and you just made your way onto my Mafia list with Palmar. You come out of nowhere and immediately jump all over one of my posts then nit pick at my response to you. The reasoning for your suspicions are bad and have close to nothing to back any of it up with. Most of what you say you just pulled out of thin air. You are making a sad attempt to do what WBG does in attempts to try and get me lynched.


Why do you "know" that you are an easy target to be "mislynched"? Has this been a common occurrence? Why do you keep mentioning WBG and comparing mattchew's play to his, it's not relevant at all. I agree with mattchew in the sense that some parts of your palmar "case" were weak and perhaps suspiciously so, but at the same time Palmar is clearly 100% trolling so far so he could very well be mafia. I think the only thing about his play that could point towards him being town is the fact he outed sinani's smurf, which isn't very smart to do in this setup if you are mafia as the person whose smurf you are outing may also be mafia.

What do you think about meapak's play so far?

syllogism said that Probulous should be lynched, yet did nothing to follow up on it (no vote, no elaboration). He jumped shipped to blazinghand when people thought he was suspicious, and now I see he's all onboard the Kurumi wagon. Yes it is important to talk about the main topics in the thread, but the town syllogism I know does not just leave one of his suspects hanging around while accussing whoever the flavor of the hour is.

syllogism is mafia and is exhibiting the same behavior that occurred in Responsibility Mafia (where he was mafia). I was drawn towards him immediately because I got the same vibe I did from that game. At the heart of his mafia play that game (and this game) is an abundance of question-talking and general advice about the game that serves no purpose. The biggest reason I found him suspicious in Responsibility Mafia was because his posts served zero purpose for the town. Take a look at this one post he made as mafia:
On December 20 2011 23:38 syllogism wrote:
Bum I've read your post several times and I still don't understand what you are trying to say. It's very likely that if there are "triggers" in the game, they aren't arbitrary but as the theme suggests punish only bad play. Of course mafia roles might follow different rules, but lynching someone based on your guesses is awful. Asking questions is normal town play and is a null tell unless we later gain information that provides an alternative motivation for them. There is no need to play any differently than you normally do and in fact you shouldn't as that will only make it more difficult to potentially establish your innocence.

The main interest in this post is his last sentence, "there is no need to play any differently...". Is what he saying true? Yes. Is it helpful to the town? No of course not. This is what syllogism does when he's mafia: he spews around advice like that to try to look helpful and pro-town. And also when reading this post you can see how he managed to type 5 lines but didn't really say all that much. It boiled down to, "bum I don't understand you". The rest is just blabble. It reads so similar to his filter this game (especially the posts I quoted above). Also compare to another post he's made this game:
On July 17 2012 02:32 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 02:28 Palmar wrote:
On July 17 2012 02:27 syllogism wrote:
On July 17 2012 02:17 Palmar wrote:
I agree with BlazingHand let's kill syllogism. Nice catch supersoft.

Do you honestly agree? Be very honest. Also, what is the nice catch you are referring to?


Why do you not announce that you support my RL idea?

I don't support it and I was more interested in seeing how others would react to it. Even if I agreed that it was a good idea, there was about 0% chance of the majority actually agreeing to it. Regardless, did you expect me to agree? Mafia don't know who other mafia are, so they don't have the usual advantage of being able to control which alignment gets lynched in this format, especially on day 1.

And again you can see how he writes the advice that everyone knows at the end of his post. And again you can see how he manages to say nothing yet still produce words.

I would like to reiterate the point that he's asking a lot of questions. This is easy enough to see from his filter. And it's also easy enough to see how he did it in Responsibility Mafia (just check his filter). Of course, asking questions in itself isn't suspicious. The point is is that he does it when he's mafia and the manner is exactly the same.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 16 2012 21:39 GMT
#496
On July 17 2012 06:35 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 06:33 HiroPro wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:28 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:26 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
wbg is like confirmed town so whatever

Like confirmed town... he did nothing. But okay, people will let you pass. For bullshit reasons like trapping a townie.


Na he said he was town in bolded black instead of bolded green like he has been doing

What the fuck? You were complaining I TROLLED in the last game and you're doing the same exact thing. Inconsistent much?


How is that trolling? If he was mafia I don't see him coming into the game and guessing that town wasn't in green in the role PM but was in regular text.


Why do you play this game if you want to do shit like this.



I don't see any reason for a townie to listen to someone they think is third party.

##Unvote Blazinghand
##Vote Kurumi

I thought about it and worst thing that could've happened to me would be a vigilante/bomber. I felt that following it wouldn't be that bad. Then a quick scan revealed that I was indeed right and it is someone who is NOT Mafia (lack of anyone else doing this)


I think the more plausible explanation is that you thought it was a message from your director.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 16 2012 21:40 GMT
#497
I want to talk about this game - but you seem to be avoiding talking about things in this game.

Hence, I want to talk about you.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 21:41 GMT
#498
On July 17 2012 06:39 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 06:35 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:33 HiroPro wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:28 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:26 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
wbg is like confirmed town so whatever

Like confirmed town... he did nothing. But okay, people will let you pass. For bullshit reasons like trapping a townie.


Na he said he was town in bolded black instead of bolded green like he has been doing

What the fuck? You were complaining I TROLLED in the last game and you're doing the same exact thing. Inconsistent much?


How is that trolling? If he was mafia I don't see him coming into the game and guessing that town wasn't in green in the role PM but was in regular text.


Why do you play this game if you want to do shit like this.



I don't see any reason for a townie to listen to someone they think is third party.

##Unvote Blazinghand
##Vote Kurumi

I thought about it and worst thing that could've happened to me would be a vigilante/bomber. I felt that following it wouldn't be that bad. Then a quick scan revealed that I was indeed right and it is someone who is NOT Mafia (lack of anyone else doing this)


I think the more plausible explanation is that you thought it was a message from your director.

If it was someone else would be using those words, right? At least two people. I am the only one. Think about it.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 16 2012 21:41 GMT
#499
Foolish wants to lynch syllo. Will investigate further soon.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 16 2012 21:41 GMT
#500
yeah mainly i'm just gonna lurk now if i don't get modkilled

Foolishness is bad if he thinks i'm scum
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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