EPTaustin almost made my red list, but I thought I'd leave him off and see if anyone besides me notice. I might have known it would be you marv, where you been all game?
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VisceraEyes
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austin almost made my red list, but I thought I'd leave him off and see if anyone besides me notice. I might have known it would be you marv, where you been all game? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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But you don't subscribe to my logic do you? Because you're attesting that you're town, and obviously you have a town read on me. So my logic is faulty. Fine. Do what you will with the lynch...but I know you're not an executive, so you don't know who scum are (at least, not with any kind of certainty) regardless of your alignment. If your choice is illogical or doesn't make sense or is scummy in any way, you have every eye on you watching what you do with it. It's like I said in my post - everything I've seen you do has looked like town to me. Everything. If you're scum you're doing a phenomenal job. This was my way of trying to "throw you a curve-ball" if you'll excuse the local idiom. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On July 25 2012 11:06 Probulous wrote: Ok, I think I get it now. You are basically trading one for one (in your mind at least). Given we have three scum dead that isn't a bad call. The only problem you have is there is no incentive for me (if I was scum) to not lynch a scummy looking townie. Or rather, avoid the scum I know. Given the number of targets we have it would be easy enough to justify. Curve ball accepted. I assume you want me to pick someone at least a little controversial, otherwise how do you get a read on me right? For shame Probulous, you want me to choose your target? Kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it? I want you to lynch whoever you think has the highest chance of flipping scum, I'll give you no further instruction. I want the next blood I see to be red blood. | ||
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On July 25 2012 11:23 Mattchew wrote: This is a fucking stupid dance. Lynch MZ cause you VE supersoft and syllo (and myself) all agree he is scum. This doesn't have to be some stare down between you and VE... /:| | ||
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On July 24 2012 04:05 VisceraEyes wrote: One at a time. After Palmer we slow the f*** down and reassess. If Palmer flips Executive, town is in a really strong position and we have time. Probulous has a kingly task ahead of him. Quit trying to pressure him into making a premature decision. Gah. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On July 25 2012 12:51 Q-bert-Z wrote: mod-kill avoiding post... I would also like to point out the fact that Chezinu, Bill Murray, and Viscera Eyes are all leading town discussion. What has happened to TLMafia? Progress. Improvement. Go away if all you're going to do is underhandedly insult people TRYING to play the game. | ||
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I'm happy to let you take responsibility for your actions. If you choose to not give reasoning that's your deal. I think layabout was a decent choice, though there are others I'd have chosen first. | ||
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On July 24 2012 08:34 Probulous wrote: Remember people, Day 1 only Foolishness knew his two subordinates. Palmar's play is very similar to Foolishness in that both of them softly pushed people who are likely scum and tunnelled those that are likely town. In Day 1 Palmar straight up called Sandroba confirmed scum and then tunnelled Syllo. However, despite Sandroba being "confirmed scum" and Foolishness pushing Syllo like crazy, Palmar opts to constantly soft push MZ. Why? I think MZ is the other executive and Palmar never knew this. Palmar is smart, he would easily pick up on how MZ was going with the flow on Day 1 but he cannot push him hard because of his vet status he might be an exec. Then suddenly come Day 2, he stops mentioning MZ at all. Why? Well because Foolishness has found a way to let his execs know who their buddy is. That's a pretty mighty inconsistency. This is the last time you mention MZ before I gave you the power to lynch. That means that you not only did NOT look over MZ overnight (not afraid of dying? Why not?), you also chose based on what would make you look good (X and Y could be construed as scummy...can't have that) rather than what's good for town (lynching scummy individuals) When I had the power, I didn't give a FUCK if it looked like I was trying to buy town cred by flipping who everyone wanted flipped or about the fact that I wasn't interested in lynching BH BEFORE getting the power or anything. I saw scum, I lynched scum. End of story. While the circumstances are slightly different, if we're the same alignment the reaction to receiving a lynch should be the same...which is "Whoa, I can lynch anyone I want! Let's get rid of scum!" ##Vote: Probulous I don't think you're town. I think if you were town you would have had the guts to pull the trigger on someone town wanted to lynch today. After all, there's always the chance town won't be able to consolidate on Zeal/MZ. The reasons you gave for lynching laya had nothing to do with laya. Period. You were asked "Why laya over others" not "Why not MZ or Zealos" and you answered the second question. You HAD to know that the question was coming, so why didn't you have evidence against layabout to justify your choice instead of a prefabricated response to what was sure to be asked? My mind can be changed. This is a gut vote, but I believe in it right now. Change my mind. Please. I don't want to lynch you if you're town...I just don't think that's the case right now. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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supersoft, would you honestly have lynched MZ if I'd made you King? | ||
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On July 25 2012 14:35 Probulous wrote: I'm assuming someone was protected. Bugs dying night 1 could be explained by the medic protecting Sandro. Why he wasn't protected night 2 is a mystery though. If there was a vet around I would have expected a claim. Alternatively maybe there is a scum mechanic which can save shots for later? Or maybe they shot a bullet proof third party role... As far as I'm concerned the most likely scenario is that whoever is making decisions didn't make any decisions. I don't think there's any kind of medic role, as there's only 1 KP per night and a lot of people to kill in order for scum to meet their objectives. Scum are already given the ability to take away town's only weapon in the lynch because Palmar flipped Pardoner. I find it highly unlikely that there's a medic, or that anyone was protected from night KP. That's my opinion. I could totally be wrong, but at this point I don't care because no one died. Zippity doo dah day let's kill scum. | ||
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OMG this game is in the bag. | ||
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Everyone votes on Probulous. Do it immediately. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Oh I'm sorry, that flip pretty much PROVES that the power roles are mirrored. It DIRECTLY implicates you and Chezinu as scum. DIRECTLY sir. I don't care that you just lynched layabout, you could have had no idea that he'd flip scum. YOU ARE THE SCUM KINGMAKER PROBULOUS!!! | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Would you be willing to lynch Chezinu with me Probulous? Because that's how this goes down, I'm mothafuckin VE and I've decided that this is the theory I believe. So you're going to help me prove it or you're going to die. If you vote Chezinu with me and the rest of town, you get to live until tomorrow, giving you almost 72 hours to convince everyone you're not scum. What's it going to be Beast Mode? | ||
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##Unvote: Probulous ##Vote: Chezinu To be fair, I had to try the bully thing. It works on weaker souls. | ||
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Your doing Great! VE. Just keep the suspension on me. Prob doesn't seem to be helping much though. By saying after sand flips that you would know my role, I mean I had his role! I was fake lynching sand (it was no where close - I even joked around about it in the thread, I even thought you did too) in hopes mafia wouldn't kill him. But they did.. If you noticed BEFORE Sand died, he was on my pro-town list along with you and Prob. By saying I would be Prob's leader I was implying I was a Bossy employee. Please don't tell him the truth. Let him believe what he much for town to be united. I will break it to him later, since I'm wasting this pm on you. I'll probably message him tomorrow. BUT THE MAFIA CAN'T KNOW THIS! Let them believe that I can see roles such as Prob's, the lawyers, and the craze employee. I said the mirror thing BEFORE Kurumi was dead and said if he was town then it means nothing! Oh and about the two missing messages. I was really busy one day and missed the deadline by minutes. The next one went to a seemingly pro-town player. I may reveal it later. Please just trust me. I'm making a huge risk by sending this pm to you because you could still be mafia who just gave away a free present for town. But you gotta take some risks sometimes, like I did with Prob -- and it sure was proven to worth wild. I rock the PM world, where I speak the truth to few. This time its YOU! YAy! oh and the host.. cause sometimes I go a little crazy without having someone to talk to. I don't have time to find all the quotes in the thread, but I make it quite obvious. I claimed that I'm a Boss many time before Sand flipped. Now that you know what to look for it should be easy. So yeah, I'm a Bossy Employee. Don't post this in the thread until maybe the next day or possibly a little later. Actually can you just ask me in the thread for permission? Cause revealing this pm would ruin my plans. Oh, and your the one who suggested sand. But we both realized he was innocent before it was too late anyways. But mafia killed him . Hopefully your attacks on me keeps me alive -- I was thinking that I was most likely to get hit by mafia at this time than town anyways. But I don't want to push my luck too much. So Chezinu is now NOT claiming that his role is called "Director of Communication" and it is instead called "Bossy Employee", the role that Sandroba flipped. Let it all sink in. Chezinu is talking about "his plans" and whatever, but he's been TROLLING ALL GAME LONG. I don't care at all about "his plans" because he hasn't seen fit to do town any favors by making a lick of sense all game. So whatever man, don't vote for him. I think enough people will because his playstyle is, in general, disliked. Hope you like popcorn.  | ||
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Did both slOosh and supersoft claim the same thing? UGH, fine, I'll research the theory completely and write up a post or something. But guys, I'm pretty sure this is what's going down. | ||
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