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i disagree. He looks crazy but green. And his logic is not laughable at all. CEO should be a skilled player like syllo or sandro. The problem with his logic is, that syllo and sandro didnt accuse him with bad reasoning, however from his point of view it might look so if he's green. Moreover i doubt that syllo/sandro wanted to defend MZ there. However MZ really does look scummy for reasons i already pointed out.
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Your "case" on syllo is bad. Just because he says he wants to lynch but doesn't vote for them doesn't mean he is scum. I think his reasoning for his points are fine.
And it's pretty hilarious that you say I shouldn't get "crazy" with my voting when you've been throwing your own vote around and argue that syllo is scum for not voting...
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On July 17 2012 01:42 supersoft wrote: i disagree. He looks crazy but green. And his logic is not laughable at all. CEO should be a skilled player like syllo or sandro. The problem with his logic is, that syllo and sandro didnt accuse him with bad reasoning, however from his point of view it might look so if he's green. Moreover i doubt that syllo/sandro wanted to defend MZ there. However MZ really does look scummy for reasons i already pointed out. I consider this laughable:
On July 17 2012 01:30 Blazinghand wrote: Welp I don't really know what to say to that since even a scum sandroba wouldn't KNOW that MZ was scum at this point unless he's one of the controllers and MZ was a minion. It's preposterous that there'd be any other reason to vote me, so after MZ flips minion, we can lynch Sandroba and he'll flip manager.
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laughable != scummy
I prefer BH's case on syllo than the one on BH
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Blazinghand
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Ok but HiroPro imagine *YOU*, a townie, have a read on someone. That read is "this guy is scum". You go and literally tell people you think this guy is scum. Does it makes sense, for a townie, not to vote that guy? In fact, would it ever make sense for a townie to do what Syllo does?
Think about it from his point of view from a townie-- it's not logical. but if he's scum? It's totally logical.
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I don't really agree. I hold my vote all the time as town if I want to see a little more from that person.
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It looks more to me like HiroPro is going gung-ho on the tails of the experienced players and leaping in positively to look good.
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Facts:
- he posted these thoughts sponaneously, in a conversation with me with almost no time to rethink this stuff.
- therefor I believe he honestly posted his thoughts.
- there is some logic behind that and he's following his thoughts up with votes. I don't agree with him, but I cannot deny that this might be a possible scenario. someone has to be manager and someone has to be CEO.
- His assumption only makes any sense if he's town. As scum this assumptions would be a complete overkill.
- therefor I don't think he's scum.
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On July 17 2012 01:52 HiroPro wrote: I don't really agree. I hold my vote all the time as town if I want to see a little more from that person.
and yet you're already so convinced here that you placed your vote?
lol!
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Blazinghand
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But would you literally call the guy scum and say you want to lynch him AND not vote him? This strikes me as insane. And honestly, voting someone doesn't cause them to talk less... it causes them to talk more, doesn't it? Make the scum come out of his hole. Makes his buddies come out to help him. I think you're just wrong.
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On July 17 2012 01:52 marvellosity wrote: It looks more to me like HiroPro is going gung-ho on the tails of the experienced players and leaping in positively to look good.
You can call it whatever you want. But I see a case that I think is good.
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On July 17 2012 01:54 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 01:52 marvellosity wrote: It looks more to me like HiroPro is going gung-ho on the tails of the experienced players and leaping in positively to look good. You can call it whatever you want. But I see a case that I think is good.
what exactly is your case about? What do you think of MZ?
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Blazinghand
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On July 17 2012 01:54 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 01:52 marvellosity wrote: It looks more to me like HiroPro is going gung-ho on the tails of the experienced players and leaping in positively to look good. You can call it whatever you want. But I see a case that I think is good.
You see a case you think is good, and you voted. This is not something syllo did. Are you being intentionally obtuse, or is this actually what you think?
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On July 17 2012 01:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 01:52 HiroPro wrote: I don't really agree. I hold my vote all the time as town if I want to see a little more from that person. and yet you're already so convinced here that you placed your vote? lol!
Yes. I waited for BH to respond to Probulous/sandroba and he's acted scummy in his response.
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Hey Palmar, is marvellosity scum?
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he mz, you owe me an explanation
On July 16 2012 23:07 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 14:49 Probulous wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Ok since no-one seems to want to actually participate, here are some thoughts of mine of the setup.
Aside from trying to kill town, the only thing that binds mafia as a team is their strategy dictated from above. From my reading this is sent during the night. Thus day 2 is going to be crucial. We should be aware of people who change reads for bad reasons or suddenly become active. Basically anyone who suddenly gains direction overnight will be a good target to poke. As for Day 1, I think participation and clarity will be extra useful because mafia now know that they are setting themselves up for difficulties in Day 2 if they pick targets Day 1. People with clear targets are going to have to work harder to change them if a different CEO strategy comes in. Thoughts? wifom Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: People are being shy violets right now but I like what probulous has posted thus far.
how can you like this nonsense?
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On July 17 2012 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hey Palmar, is marvellosity scum?
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On July 17 2012 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hey Palmar, is marvellosity scum? Your active lurking is not entertaining, pawn.
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