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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:01 GMT
#301
Yes. M_Z's pressure was craptacularly underwhelming and indicates to me that he's scum looking to build a backdoor in his wagon in case it turns out to be a bus. Therefore I voted him. Probulous comes off to me as unhelpful and unthoughtful, so I am ignoring his questioning. If you'd really like, I can take a look at him, but I think he's just scum farting into the wind to throw me off the scent.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:02 GMT
#302
Oh my god my metaphors today are so damn sexy.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 16 2012 16:04 GMT
#303
What did you find unhelpful/unthoughtful about Probulous, worthy of being ignored?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:08 GMT
#304
On July 16 2012 15:46 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 15:32 Blazinghand wrote:
@Prob: I think that's Chezinu you got quoted there.

Thank you for not reading.
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 15:09 Q-bert-Z wrote:
They can only send one message a day, so we should try to create an environment that is shifting too much for that message to be useful.

It was in the spoiler. That is what Chez was responding too

Show nested quote +
In any case, in this setup it seems pretty straightforwards to me. Analyze like normal, hold people to their views like normal, look for weird unsubstantiated cases like normal. There's more scum and they're less organized, but I don't see why we need to do our D1 or D2 anything different than what we typically do. Just keep an eye open for people doing shit without legit town motives and you're good to go as always.

@Chezinu: Chaos bad

##vote: Chezinu


Fluff and nonsense. I have never played a game with Chez but I have read his games and he is never clear. Chaos is his middle name (OK, maybe I am exaggerating) but the point being voting for him, is just dumb. It is not like he wasn't posting and your vote isn't going to make him be all clear and transparent.

So Mr Blazinghand, why aren't you reading the thread and why are pushing easy targets? In addition why are you dismissing my ideas without actually commenting on them.


In this post, he responds to a vote I made on Chezinu. However, if you pay attention, this post was actually made several minutes after I interacted with MZ then decided he was scum and voted him. Probulous accuses me of not reading the thread, but he is literally not reading the thread. Seems pretty straightforwards to me: useless if town, incompetent if scum. Nothing worth responding to here.

In a similar vein he makes some very weak prods at MZ, but I'm not sure I can distinguish that from general prodding. So I've got him in my "ignore for now, reassess later" bin.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:12 GMT
#305
The two posts MZ made since our most recent interaction are largely underwhelming. I don't buy his "case" against QBZ at all. (link1) (link2). Although it at first glance appears to be natural, it doesn't make any damn sense. Accussations of trolling, talking about scum havens, etc, stop more discussions than it starts. MZ clearly working against town in what few posts he's made.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 16 2012 16:26 GMT
#306
No u. You are trying to come up with reasons and arguments out of thin air. Doesn't seem like a natural thought process at all, looks like you are tryharding to fake contributions, even more so now that people are looking at you. I'm pretty sure you are scum at this point =)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:27 GMT
#307
On July 17 2012 01:26 sandroba wrote:
No u. You are trying to come up with reasons and arguments out of thin air. Doesn't seem like a natural thought process at all, looks like you are tryharding to fake contributions, even more so now that people are looking at you. I'm pretty sure you are scum at this point =)


Why not vote me then? Or are you waiting for permission from your overlords.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:27 GMT
#308
If I was "pretty sure" someone was scum my vote would be on him like white on rice.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#309
Oh wait nvm he did
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:30 GMT
#310
Welp I don't really know what to say to that since even a scum sandroba wouldn't KNOW that MZ was scum at this point unless he's one of the controllers and MZ was a minion. It's preposterous that there'd be any other reason to vote me, so after MZ flips minion, we can lynch Sandroba and he'll flip manager.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 16 2012 16:31 GMT
#311
On July 17 2012 01:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 01:26 sandroba wrote:
No u. You are trying to come up with reasons and arguments out of thin air. Doesn't seem like a natural thought process at all, looks like you are tryharding to fake contributions, even more so now that people are looking at you. I'm pretty sure you are scum at this point =)


Why not vote me then? Or are you waiting for permission from your overlords.


hold your breath. he already voted for you. and he's right. Your recent wordstorm doesnt give me anything. That's not good. Can you do better?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 16 2012 16:32 GMT
#312
On July 17 2012 01:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Welp I don't really know what to say to that since even a scum sandroba wouldn't KNOW that MZ was scum at this point unless he's one of the controllers and MZ was a minion. It's preposterous that there'd be any other reason to vote me, so after MZ flips minion, we can lynch Sandroba and he'll flip manager.


interesting. and what about syllo?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:33 GMT
#313
On July 17 2012 01:32 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 01:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Welp I don't really know what to say to that since even a scum sandroba wouldn't KNOW that MZ was scum at this point unless he's one of the controllers and MZ was a minion. It's preposterous that there'd be any other reason to vote me, so after MZ flips minion, we can lynch Sandroba and he'll flip manager.


interesting. and what about syllo?



What about him
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 16 2012 16:34 GMT
#314
On July 17 2012 01:33 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 01:32 supersoft wrote:
On July 17 2012 01:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Welp I don't really know what to say to that since even a scum sandroba wouldn't KNOW that MZ was scum at this point unless he's one of the controllers and MZ was a minion. It's preposterous that there'd be any other reason to vote me, so after MZ flips minion, we can lynch Sandroba and he'll flip manager.


interesting. and what about syllo?



What about him


he agrees with sandroba and accuses you. Is he CEO then?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:35 GMT
#315
Oh my lord, you're right. Syllo's managed to make several posts without actually comitting to anything at all. I take it all back, he's the scum here. He agrees with Sandro on me, but doesn't do anything about it. He would "like to lynch" probulous, but doesn't vote him.

I've seen the light.

##unvote
##vote: syllogism


die scum
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 16 2012 16:36 GMT
#316
lol. what have i done.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 16 2012 16:37 GMT
#317
@BH
What is this??? the only way someone could vote you is if they are scum, do you really believe you are that town?
Your latest post is so crazy I almost think it is a joke.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:38 GMT
#318
NO! NO THIS ONE MAKES SENSE. Just check out his filter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=102651

Ok so he starts off with irrelevant questions that look like pressure but aren't (link), then continues by saying that HE WANTS TO LYNCH PROBULOUS WITHOUT VOTING HIM (link), then states I'm scum but hides behind another dude's case and doesn't vote me! (link).

This is a man with no strong opinions except, apparently, that everyone is scum but he's not voting anyone. Scummy. Scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 16 2012 16:38 GMT
#319
I agree with sandroba: BH's posting looks very artificial.

His reasoning for ignoring Probulous doesn't make sense: Probulous's question is not invalid just because BH switched targets. And his logic for thinking that sandroba/syllo are scum is laughable.

##Vote Blazinghand
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 16 2012 16:39 GMT
#320
Wait Hiro before you get all crazy with you're voting check out my case on Syllo
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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