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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 16 2012 10:13 GMT
#241
So in essence I should have kept that to myself?

I find it highly unlikely that mafia will be pushing strong reads day 1 given the setup. For two reasons, one they may be pushing one of their own, two they will be held accountable. So my thinking was to out to the thread so people are aware of it. Yes mafia are too but all this does is limit their options. How exactly does this help me further my agenda if I am mafia?

"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 16 2012 10:19 GMT
#242
Meh, if one of their own did something deserving to be pushed heavily I'd be happy to do the bus.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 11:16 GMT
#243
If it wasn't clear earlier.

I am proposing a Random Lynch for day 1. We have an unusually high chance of hitting mafia this game.

This is a randomized list of all the players in the game, it changes order every minute. Someone who isn't me can pick a time, if you want 100% security you can do it when I'm sleeping, then people screenshot the list at that time and we lynch the first guy on the list.



Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 11:16 GMT
#244
edit: forgot the link: http://www.palmar.org/mafia/random.txt
Computer says mafia
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 11:39 GMT
#245
For the last several years I relied on prescription medication to make it through the days but I am better now. I look forward to working with you, dear associates. Huge deep sea creature might be right. Blaming a random person might give us good results. I am worried about lack of chit-chat though. I assume that we'll be missing this today based on how our company works. The usual tracking job fits everyone.. The eradication job does not.. Watch out for guys who want a raise. They are suspicious.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 16 2012 11:50 GMT
#246
On July 16 2012 20:16 Palmar wrote:
If it wasn't clear earlier.

I am proposing a Random Lynch for day 1. We have an unusually high chance of hitting mafia this game.

This is a randomized list of all the players in the game, it changes order every minute. Someone who isn't me can pick a time, if you want 100% security you can do it when I'm sleeping, then people screenshot the list at that time and we lynch the first guy on the list.



What's the supposed benefit? Mafia manipulation of the lynch (by dint of their large numbers) would be at an absolute minimum due to the fact they don't know who each other are.

And, more importantly, I've only been lynched once before and I don't plan the 2nd time to be a random lynch D:
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 16 2012 11:50 GMT
#247
##Vote: Kurumi
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 11:56 GMT
#248
On July 16 2012 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: Kurumi

Thanks, I appreciate it.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 12:03 GMT
#249
I assume every half cycle means starting D1?
Fellow colleagues, I think I found out something interesting.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 12:09 GMT
#250
On July 16 2012 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 20:16 Palmar wrote:
If it wasn't clear earlier.

I am proposing a Random Lynch for day 1. We have an unusually high chance of hitting mafia this game.

This is a randomized list of all the players in the game, it changes order every minute. Someone who isn't me can pick a time, if you want 100% security you can do it when I'm sleeping, then people screenshot the list at that time and we lynch the first guy on the list.



What's the supposed benefit? Mafia manipulation of the lynch (by dint of their large numbers) would be at an absolute minimum due to the fact they don't know who each other are.

And, more importantly, I've only been lynched once before and I don't plan the 2nd time to be a random lynch D:


The chances of each individual being lynched are very low. The chance of lynching mafia is 33%, which is probably not much worse than lynching mafia based on analysis, especially given that mafia doesn't know who their teammates are so it's impossible to try to analyse any links or interactions.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 16 2012 12:13 GMT
#251
On July 16 2012 21:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
On July 16 2012 20:16 Palmar wrote:
If it wasn't clear earlier.

I am proposing a Random Lynch for day 1. We have an unusually high chance of hitting mafia this game.

This is a randomized list of all the players in the game, it changes order every minute. Someone who isn't me can pick a time, if you want 100% security you can do it when I'm sleeping, then people screenshot the list at that time and we lynch the first guy on the list.



What's the supposed benefit? Mafia manipulation of the lynch (by dint of their large numbers) would be at an absolute minimum due to the fact they don't know who each other are.

And, more importantly, I've only been lynched once before and I don't plan the 2nd time to be a random lynch D:


The chances of each individual being lynched are very low. The chance of lynching mafia is 33%, which is probably not much worse than lynching mafia based on analysis, especially given that mafia doesn't know who their teammates are so it's impossible to try to analyse any links or interactions.


So you're proposing a plan you admit has a lower chance of lynching mafia than analysis. Fabulous.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 16 2012 12:18 GMT
#252
On July 16 2012 21:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 21:09 Palmar wrote:
On July 16 2012 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
On July 16 2012 20:16 Palmar wrote:
If it wasn't clear earlier.

I am proposing a Random Lynch for day 1. We have an unusually high chance of hitting mafia this game.

This is a randomized list of all the players in the game, it changes order every minute. Someone who isn't me can pick a time, if you want 100% security you can do it when I'm sleeping, then people screenshot the list at that time and we lynch the first guy on the list.



What's the supposed benefit? Mafia manipulation of the lynch (by dint of their large numbers) would be at an absolute minimum due to the fact they don't know who each other are.

And, more importantly, I've only been lynched once before and I don't plan the 2nd time to be a random lynch D:


The chances of each individual being lynched are very low. The chance of lynching mafia is 33%, which is probably not much worse than lynching mafia based on analysis, especially given that mafia doesn't know who their teammates are so it's impossible to try to analyse any links or interactions.


So you're proposing a plan you admit has a lower chance of lynching mafia than analysis. Fabulous.

In the last post, dear colleague you've shown the fear of death. Hiding something?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 12:19 GMT
#253
Any analysis by definition has always a better chance of hitting mafia than random lynch, as even if the analysis is terrible, you still have the base chance of lucking out on hitting scum. This is of course assuming the analyst isn't terrible, but I'm not.

There are other reasons why I want to RL.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 16 2012 12:20 GMT
#254
Why don't you share with the class, Palmar
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 12:21 GMT
#255
I don't want to talk to you anymore marvellosity
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 16 2012 12:24 GMT
#256
That's because you're proposing plans with a lower chance of hitting mafia by your own admission and no apparent upsides. Carry on then
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 16 2012 12:25 GMT
#257
So Palmar, say we do RL. Then what, what's the scenario tomorrow. I don't see the advantages.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 12:29 GMT
#258
I should've signed up with two accounts, that way I'd at least have someone intelligent to talk to.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 16 2012 12:30 GMT
#259
Na, it would have doubled the arrogant bullcrap in the thread, we don't want that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 16 2012 12:57 GMT
#260
Your plan to RL today is insanely clever: read dumb:.

The scenario is this.

We RL today. Scum kills a townie tonight. What's different tomorrow. The odds are the chances of hitting scum with a RL tomorrow is even greater? Do you wany to do it again or do you suggest we try to analyze-lynch then, with the same information we have now. Things can only get worse with RL unless we assume we're going to be lucky and it is always foolish to assume you will be lucky. And even in the lucky scenario we loose one day of discussion.

Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
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