EPTYou're right. That's easily done as scum to fall back on later.
##Vote: Hopeless1der
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2580 Posts
You're right. That's easily done as scum to fall back on later. ##Vote: Hopeless1der | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 07 2012 00:39 Hopeless1der wrote: It's looking like I might be lynched so I'm claiming Vanilla Townie Some of my scummy behavior is from throwaway posts early. Whether anyone believes me or not, well I tried: Easily done as scum to fall back on later so I don't expect this to sway anyone significantly, but consider the two posts I quoted. They're both terrible with practically no contributions, except for the role I breadcrumbed. Since I have to vote for someone, I'm voting for AmericanUmlaut as my strongest read, and he currently has no votes. I'd prefer the no-lynch in this situation, but I cant vote No Lynch so... ##Vote: AmericanUmlaut rofl, that's creative. Not overly helpful, but creative. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
AmericanUmlaut wrote: Keirathi popped in as a replacement for a scummy player and posted scummy-looking reads of every player in the game (never mind that he put vague numbers before his "everyone could be scum" list), and you're surprised that I took the time to contradict his points? Debate of that nature is the core of the game that we're playing; the fact that Anacletus and Impact felt no need to defend themselves against our accusations is exactly the reason that we're in the predicament we find ourselves in. So who has demonstrated enthusiasm for Hopeless's analysis so far? Only Keirathi, who (not to overly belabor a point) seems to have a strategy of flinging poo in every direction and seeing what sticks. I've gone back and forth on Hopeless since the start of the game, but I am now firmly convinced that we'd be well on our way to winning this game if JH and I had gotten more support to ban him day 1. His case against Blind-RawR day 2 was not a clumsy attempt at provoking a mislynch; it was a clumsy attempt at bussing his way out of the scummy read he'd developed day 1. Now he and Blind-RawRKeirathi are pushing cases every which way, while making sure to disagree just enough, and to post their suspicions of each other. I smell an attempt to see where the kernel of a mislynch forms so that they can drop the hammer and end the game. And if the worst happens and one of us smells that something's up, they've got a couple of nice juicy posts to quote for towncred. So what did you want me to do, coming into the game? I felt it was my job to make a thorough investigation of everyone with "what-if goggles", and read through with the assumption that each individual person COULD be mafia. Also, you took time to contradict my points, but like Prom, didn't care enough to commend on my counter points. Do you want to defend yourself, or not? Enthusiasm for Hopeless's analysis? I made comments because that's what I've been asking EVERYONE to do. Pushing cases every which way? I guess I can understand why you think a general analysis of activities I thought could be scummy behavior if you assume the person is scum before they said it could be flinging poo. But I haven't actively tried to push a target because I just don't fucking know. So I've just been begging forr other people to come throw in their own input, and responding to arguments they make. You even acknowledged that debate is the core mechanic of this game. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9644 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On July 07 2012 01:14 iamperfection wrote: time check please Day 3 set to end in 4 hours, 45 minutes | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 07 2012 01:14 iamperfection wrote: time check please 4 hours, 45 minutes left I believe. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
AmericanUmlaut (1): hopeless1der BobTheLob (1): iamperfection Hopeless1der (2): AmericanUmlaut, Promethelax iamperfection (1): Miltonkram Not Voted: Keirathi, BobTheLob, Myles With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Currently, no one is set to be lynched Day 3. ~4.5 hours remain! | ||
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Miltonkram
United States310 Posts
I feel like I found a pretty major scumslip by him. I think he's our best chance of flipping scum. I know Hopeless1der looks scummy, but that is mostly from his D1 play. He has since improved, whether from PMing the coaches or Mafia QT I'm not quite sure yet, but he's improved enough to the point where lynching him makes me feel uncomfortable. I'd really like people to take a look into his case. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 07 2012 02:44 Miltonkram wrote: Hold the phone. What do you guys think of the scumslip I posted on iamperfection? I feel like I found a pretty major scumslip by him. I think he's our best chance of flipping scum. I know Hopeless1der looks scummy, but that is mostly from his D1 play. He has since improved, whether from PMing the coaches or Mafia QT I'm not quite sure yet, but he's improved enough to the point where lynching him makes me feel uncomfortable. I'd really like people to take a look into his case. Your accusation was accurate, but so many people have done the same thing this game. Its weird to demonize one person for it, but not the others. | ||
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Miltonkram
United States310 Posts
I disagree. I feel like if you look at the flow of thought in iamperfection's filter, it doesn't make sense for anyone but scum. There are other players who were pretty wishy-washy at the time, but iamperfection states, "I dont agree with the line of thinking that got the bandwagon on anacletus," before anacletus was lynched. This sounds like a player who knows Anacletus is town. I don't think any of the other players had quite so bad a line of reasoning as iamperfection, and I'm calling him out on it. I think he has the greatest chance of flipping scum of any of the players left in the game. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9644 Posts
On July 07 2012 03:23 Miltonkram wrote: @ Keirathi I disagree. I feel like if you look at the flow of thought in iamperfection's filter, it doesn't make sense for anyone but scum. There are other players who were pretty wishy-washy at the time, but iamperfection states, "I dont agree with the line of thinking that got the bandwagon on anacletus," before anacletus was lynched. This sounds like a player who knows Anacletus is town. I don't think any of the other players had quite so bad a line of reasoning as iamperfection, and I'm calling him out on it. I think he has the greatest chance of flipping scum of any of the players left in the game. When you look back at what happened for the first day anacletus was lynched for basically telling a joke. All though i didnt write anything at the time i thought it was really dumb that we were just lynching someone because he made one of the cuff remark. Later their were arguments that no lynch was worse than lynching a townie so for better or worse i decided to go along with it. Looking back on my posts now they are overall mediocore in my view in that i was just trying to survive. I am trying to get rid of the wish washyness in my posts now because its crunch time and if were going to win we need to be almost perfect in our steps and im more confident in how to play this game. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9644 Posts
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BobTheLob
Canada362 Posts
On July 07 2012 00:21 AmericanUmlaut wrote: I've got to agree with the sentiments expressed so eloquently in this post. Do I correctly understand that you (Bob) are arguing that iamperfection's contention that you're scum is stupid ("Wait what?") because you already said that your play has been scummy as hell? I don't even know whether to read that argument as scummy or not. It's too stupid an argument to make sense coming from anybody, regardless of their alignment. No, I'm saying his post is useless, but for my opinion on what's going on right now as it seems that I won't be lynched today. The No Lynch is a good idea if we can actually get a read tomorrow, unfortunately I doubt that. A No Lynch is fine if we have any blues left, but I don't think we do. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 07 2012 03:43 BobTheLob wrote: No, I'm saying his post is useless, but for my opinion on what's going on right now as it seems that I won't be lynched today. The No Lynch is a good idea if we can actually get a read tomorrow, unfortunately I doubt that. A No Lynch is fine if we have any blues left, but I don't think we do. I really hope we have more than 1 blue role in a 12 player game. That seems like pretty bad odds for town. These games are supposedly looked at by the balance team before given the OK and put in the queue. I feel sure we have at least 1 more. | ||
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BobTheLob
Canada362 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9644 Posts
On July 07 2012 03:52 BobTheLob wrote: oh and ##Vote BobTheLob Why would give yourself 2 votes? if you want a no lynch just pick someone with 0. the scum could come in at the last min and get a lynch. | ||
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Miltonkram
United States310 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 05 2012 22:25 ghost_403 wrote: Just so there's no confusion, you cannot vote for a no lynch. The no lynch can still happen by voting in such a way that no one has the majority (5 votes at the moment), but you have to cast a vote for someone still in the game. We cannot. | ||
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BobTheLob
Canada362 Posts
On July 07 2012 03:55 iamperfection wrote: Why would give yourself 2 votes? if you want a no lynch just pick someone with 0. the scum could come in at the last min and get a lynch. Okay then. ##UnVote ##Vote Keirathi | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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