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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 10 2012 22:25 GMT
#1701
On July 11 2012 07:22 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 07:19 gonzaw wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Take gonzaw for a second:
The guy figured me out as mafia in the first game we played together based on something I considered to bullshit because I am changing my play after every game, hopefully for the better and what he said might have been right for my last game as mafia and was not right for my games as town around that time, but the reason he wanted to lynch me was something I actively implemented in my game as both, mafia and town. So he is someone who believes that he can figure me out easily. Remember what happened this game?


I didn't want to lynch you only because of meta >_>
I wanted to lynch you because you were scummy


yeah I saw that and the post you did (and quoted postgame) was actually the post that came closest to figuring me out. I thought I was in trouble at that time. That WAS a good reason to consider me being mafia.
Saying "X is stupid" or "X is not playing according to his meta" if you can't even point out what his meta is, is not. That's the point here.


Ehm, are you talking about LI or this game? >_>
I'm talking about LI
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 10 2012 22:32 GMT
#1702
On July 11 2012 07:25 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 07:22 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:19 gonzaw wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Take gonzaw for a second:
The guy figured me out as mafia in the first game we played together based on something I considered to bullshit because I am changing my play after every game, hopefully for the better and what he said might have been right for my last game as mafia and was not right for my games as town around that time, but the reason he wanted to lynch me was something I actively implemented in my game as both, mafia and town. So he is someone who believes that he can figure me out easily. Remember what happened this game?


I didn't want to lynch you only because of meta >_>
I wanted to lynch you because you were scummy


yeah I saw that and the post you did (and quoted postgame) was actually the post that came closest to figuring me out. I thought I was in trouble at that time. That WAS a good reason to consider me being mafia.
Saying "X is stupid" or "X is not playing according to his meta" if you can't even point out what his meta is, is not. That's the point here.


Ehm, are you talking about LI or this game? >_>
I'm talking about LI

I was talking about LI :p

You wanted to lynch me that game because I was explaining less and because I was pushing my reads less than I usually did and according to you I usually do that as town if I remember correctly. But I guess I shouldn't have brought it up, old stories :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 10 2012 22:36 GMT
#1703
lol I kind of forgot about LI. I remember me accusing you for some reasons (I think it was you just trying to blend in, not caring about shit, pushing random guys and some stuff), and then you wasting 80% of your time arguing with me >_>
At least before the D2 "incident" happened >_>
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 10 2012 23:04 GMT
#1704
On July 11 2012 07:36 gonzaw wrote:
lol I kind of forgot about LI.

Never forget about LI.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 11 2012 06:35 GMT
#1705
On July 11 2012 01:59 gonzaw wrote:
Wait one minute....I thought attacks couldn't be canceled....?

Like, once you called an attack, that was it and you couldn't change it. I think I asked Artanis that question but he never answered, so I assumed attacks couldn't be changed (kind of like in the real game, you can't suddenly change everything you've done and cast other stuff or attack other things or block other stuff)



Yeah I thought the same until we heard that the day wouldn't be extended for attack switches, I thought attacks were like spells and couldn't be changed - that's why I kept insisting that mattchew attack before I decided what I was doing.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 10:11:13
July 11 2012 10:10 GMT
#1706
First you have this

On July 01 2012 08:51 WereBugs-Go wrote:
wtf happened? oO
Is this supposed to be some wifom because they couldn't kill gonzaw and didn't want to attack me / Nova because that'd confirm me or because it would confirm nova (either way lol)? I can't think of this being effective unless we screw up big time. I'd say either way, this is supposed to confuse us SOMEHOW.
Therefore I'd say we don't talk / think about that at all. Surely mafia wants us to talk / think about it for some reason. We're given a free circle. Let's use that circle without even getting into wifom.

If someone else already said something like that sorry. I'm just now catching up. Also I have to kill one of my monsters... I'm still not drawing lands and if I kill one I can draw to more cards.

And then you have this as an excuse to kill the most valuable player in the game

On July 04 2012 06:31 WereBugs-Go wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 06:23 Zealos wrote:
WBG, how sure are you that Nova is scum?

I already said, I don't consider Obe + Grey + WBG + Nova a possibility, especially after the no-shot because there was no reason to not shoot that day unless they wanted to protect either me or Nova from being figured out. I know I'm not mafia so that means Nova is mafia on top of everything that was already said about him.

So this pretty much says that nova is scum because I understand mafia wifom perfectly, after he says to not care about the no shot
Which is why he was either really really stupid or scum. Upon any inspection of his filter, it's pretty much been spam tentative suspicions of every player in the game so he can fall back on anything
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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
July 11 2012 10:13 GMT
#1707
On July 04 2012 02:33 WereBugs-Go wrote:
Actually I'd like Zealos to be the target over mattcher over fulla over s&b at this point.

I went over Holy roman mafia again, the game I co-hosted with Caller and frankly I've got to say mattchew isn't anything like that and he was Mafia in that game.

What mattchew did in Holy Roman:
  1. Screaming in his mafia-QT at his buddies how obvious it is that they are mafia.
  2. He then proceeds to dish out a couple of reads which are ALL 100% correct, bussing his mates and defending townies people are attacking saying it is obvious why he thinks so.
  3. In the end he never ended up explaining why he thought that way and came to the conclusion of X being mafia or Y being town, he just proceeded to say something along the lines of "screw you guys, you're a bunch of morons and I don't need to explain shit to you when it's so damn obvious".
  4. He got towncred that way in the end because he ended up bussing a lot but in reality it never was really obvious at all.
    Mattchew THOUGHT it was obvious, because he knew who his teammates were, because he knew where he had to look at and easily picked up things that can be considered scummy but that was just confirmation bias. He knew who was mafia so he said so without being able to explain a thing or actually doing a thing except for saying "it's obvious, just lynch that guy over there".


The thing is:
I don't see that happening this game. Yeah he's posting very little and that's making him scummy but I don't see him being scummy the way he usually ends up being scummy and he actually is delivering at least a tiny bit of insight, something he completly failed to do in holy roman. It's more of a risk.nuke scummy, a guy who refuses to do what he is told to do, instead doing his own thing, people consider it scummy and when lynching him for that he ends up flipping true random.

So far mattchew is my #3 scumread after Greymist and Zealos but unless one of them flips town I don't really want to attack him yet.
I'm also pretty sure that either Nova OR Greymist is mafia but not both at the same time and the fact that nova is so all about attacking mattchew out of nowhere is giving me the creeps right now.

It comes down to this for me:
Mafia #1: 99% either Nova or Greymist
Mafia #2: 90% either Zealos, Matt or maybe Fulla.

and it's getting all complicated. Greymist wants to attack Zealos, Nova wants to attack Matt and Matt wants to attack Fulla.

This is what makes this scumteam an obvious possibility, pointing out things that seem agreeing with people that he's scummy but pointing out things that he's not quite positive about mostly based on wifom
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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
July 11 2012 10:16 GMT
#1708
On July 04 2012 04:21 WereBugs-Go wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 04:16 Oberyn wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:14 WereBugs-Go wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:09 Oberyn wrote:
If Grey is mafia cool Nova is most likely town and you guys will need a town 8/8 beast.
If Grey is town and you fear Nova is scum Spellbomb it yourself next turn (you still have AEther Spellbomb).

I won't spellbomb it now in case Grey flips scum, Nova is town and we just made a huge mistake that may cost us the game (well, if Grey flips scum it's unlikely, but still).

There's no rush, at worst Nova will use it on Mattchew or something this turn (but you can still spellbomb it next turn)

If mafia has both a 12/1 and an 8/8 creature there is reason to rush.
If they don't we're fine playing the long game without the 8/8 creature because it's only one mafia left.
Also as Artanis just told us mafia have to eliminate every single townie, they don't even win in a 1v1 situation because of endgame, which gives us another turn.
We have plenty of time if Greymist flips red. Except for Nova noone is having a strong board right now (well and you, but you're most likely going to die today).

If nova is mafia he could probably outright claim mafia and wipe the floor with us with 22 damage the next turn, 24 the turn after that and us having something like 6 damage tops per player.


How many times do I have to repeat that you still have your Spellbomb in your board?

Unless you think Nova has a "Remove Artifact from play" card and will use it as soon as D4 starts >_>

Yeah I guess that's right... I just think it's going to be a shitton of mafia damage when we're wrong on Grey and we can't deal with that kind of thing.
My 4/4 myr has no trample, even a single 1/1 creature could just block that and it's done. I just don't think we could kill mafia in time if Nova really turns out to be mafia AND keeps that 8/8 with trample.
While I think we'd be in a great position either way if we spellbomb Nova.

I guess you're right, waiting one cycle is not going to lose us the game, especially if mattchew isn't looking townish at all, he's just not the optimal target right now.

Alarm bell
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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
July 11 2012 10:28 GMT
#1709
On July 04 2012 06:32 WereBugs-Go wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 06:30 Nova_Terra wrote:
On July 04 2012 05:42 WereBugs-Go wrote:
On July 04 2012 05:34 Nova_Terra wrote:
Omfg I'm so sorry, my Internet went completely down earlier today and by the time I got to the nearest Internet cafe they were closed T_T then we got out the new router we had brought and we just fixed it now
We should follow greymists reads and go over his filter

This shit is easy. You are Mafia and Zealos is not leaving S&B or Mattchew for the last mafia spot.

Greymist said we should kill Zealos. Why should we follow his reads instead of the other ones Oberyn gave? Where's the difference and why should we follow Greymist instead of someone else?
Not that that makes you mafia, but can anyone believe that in a situation like this:
Obe + Grey + WBG + Nova would do a no-kill on n2?
Why not just hit Nova or me. There's no way this can be right. Nova's got to be mafia, that's why they didn't want to confirm shoot into either Nova or me because that would confirm the other guy.
I'm sure as hell town, Obe just flipped town and so did Grey. That means you're mafia pal.

Wat
I meant we should follow the logic Of his reads and see what they mean now, not blindly sheep them, srsly?
Also what is this, why would scum shoot either of us instead of oberyn? Or am I misunderstanding something? Cause if that's what you mean you really need to think more
Also I've been thinking from a perspective where all of us 4 were town and that makes perfect sense to me, why can't 4/9 players be town?

Mafia shot Ober n1
Mafia shot noone n2
Mafia shot Obe n3

Why didn't they shoot either you or me n2 when we're both town? No point in hiding "confirmation" unless they want to protect someone.

This is an example of bad logic. Mafia don't just leave little confirmation trails that can eventually lead encyclopedia brown to solving this random case, they do things to make people look bad, which WBG aknowledges earlier.
Also we heard nothing about what happens when both grey and obe flip town from WBG before it happens, and then suddenly it's a massive scum tell for nova being scum. Compare it to me saying that people should go over my filter in case I wasn't shot at night, which I said right before it happened. What actually happened? Nobody except for maybe prom went over my filter after and so everyone was suddenly really worried, so WBG can flip flop his brain a million times about wifoming and it wont matter because he's focusing on me and everyone's like HEY... I HAD THAT SUSPICION TOO! Whereas they wouldn't had they went in and thought about it for a while. Filter is your friend.
An experienced player wouldn't make judgements based on some perceived trail mafia has been leaving all along as if it's their job. Mafia cover things up, but most of all they trick people to think there's a path leading to someone, which is another reason why WBGs logic was bad if he was town. He was not playing like an experienced town player
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 11 2012 11:05 GMT
#1710
Really sorry I couldnt be more active towards the end of the game. Lost my internet for 2 days prior to this :X gg guys.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17951 Posts
July 11 2012 12:11 GMT
#1711
Nova, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Your 20/20 hindsight is pretty accurate, but your ingame push on WBG was nonexistent. If you're trying to understand Toad's scumplay, then sure, go ahead, but if you're trying to tell your town members that they were wrong, then it is unbecoming when you yourself were equally wrong. All you voiced were very light suspicions of WBG in the midst of rather strong accusations of SnB.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 11 2012 12:12 GMT
#1712
As far as I can tell, NT seems to make a lot of sense but he shot himself in the foot for not turning up for some attack phase?

Don't make elementary blunders that destroy town's trust in you :x
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 12:40:41
July 11 2012 12:39 GMT
#1713
On July 11 2012 19:16 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 04:21 WereBugs-Go wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:16 Oberyn wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:14 WereBugs-Go wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:09 Oberyn wrote:
If Grey is mafia cool Nova is most likely town and you guys will need a town 8/8 beast.
If Grey is town and you fear Nova is scum Spellbomb it yourself next turn (you still have AEther Spellbomb).

I won't spellbomb it now in case Grey flips scum, Nova is town and we just made a huge mistake that may cost us the game (well, if Grey flips scum it's unlikely, but still).

There's no rush, at worst Nova will use it on Mattchew or something this turn (but you can still spellbomb it next turn)

If mafia has both a 12/1 and an 8/8 creature there is reason to rush.
If they don't we're fine playing the long game without the 8/8 creature because it's only one mafia left.
Also as Artanis just told us mafia have to eliminate every single townie, they don't even win in a 1v1 situation because of endgame, which gives us another turn.
We have plenty of time if Greymist flips red. Except for Nova noone is having a strong board right now (well and you, but you're most likely going to die today).

If nova is mafia he could probably outright claim mafia and wipe the floor with us with 22 damage the next turn, 24 the turn after that and us having something like 6 damage tops per player.


How many times do I have to repeat that you still have your Spellbomb in your board?

Unless you think Nova has a "Remove Artifact from play" card and will use it as soon as D4 starts >_>

Yeah I guess that's right... I just think it's going to be a shitton of mafia damage when we're wrong on Grey and we can't deal with that kind of thing.
My 4/4 myr has no trample, even a single 1/1 creature could just block that and it's done. I just don't think we could kill mafia in time if Nova really turns out to be mafia AND keeps that 8/8 with trample.
While I think we'd be in a great position either way if we spellbomb Nova.

I guess you're right, waiting one cycle is not going to lose us the game, especially if mattchew isn't looking townish at all, he's just not the optimal target right now.

Alarm bell


That's german grammar not a scumslip because we're using "when" and "if" the same way :p
There's a "causal wenn" (when) which would be like "if" and a "temporal wenn" (when) which is what english "when" means. So really this is just typing while thinking german for a second.

On July 11 2012 21:11 Acrofales wrote:
Nova, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Your 20/20 hindsight is pretty accurate, but your ingame push on WBG was nonexistent. If you're trying to understand Toad's scumplay, then sure, go ahead, but if you're trying to tell your town members that they were wrong, then it is unbecoming when you yourself were equally wrong. All you voiced were very light suspicions of WBG in the midst of rather strong accusations of SnB.

exactly. I considered it to be quite funny actually because the moment I started pushing Nova he told people I'm stupid and that both of us are TOWN. He didn't tell people I'm mafia, he told people I'm wrong and that we're both town until something like 10 hours prior to the deadline.
And yeah as mentioned, figuring stuff out after all is all nice and dandy and if you would have posted that in the game, awesome. Frankly I'm quite sure you could come up with equally scummy things about Greymist, Prom or Obe if you check their filters for stuff like that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
July 11 2012 14:57 GMT
#1714
On July 11 2012 21:11 Acrofales wrote:
Nova, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Your 20/20 hindsight is pretty accurate, but your ingame push on WBG was nonexistent. If you're trying to understand Toad's scumplay, then sure, go ahead, but if you're trying to tell your town members that they were wrong, then it is unbecoming when you yourself were equally wrong. All you voiced were very light suspicions of WBG in the midst of rather strong accusations of SnB.

This is what I meant by suggesting that his play made no sense from an experienced town (like toad) point of view. After that, I was suspicious of 3 people which I noted multiple times, and then I had to attempt to defend myself against this, which I tried to point out the logic fail but I couldn't cause I died pretty much instantly. Hell, I didn't even get to use my creatures that turn
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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 15:14:12
July 11 2012 15:02 GMT
#1715
On July 11 2012 21:39 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 19:16 Nova_Terra wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:21 WereBugs-Go wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:16 Oberyn wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:14 WereBugs-Go wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:09 Oberyn wrote:
If Grey is mafia cool Nova is most likely town and you guys will need a town 8/8 beast.
If Grey is town and you fear Nova is scum Spellbomb it yourself next turn (you still have AEther Spellbomb).

I won't spellbomb it now in case Grey flips scum, Nova is town and we just made a huge mistake that may cost us the game (well, if Grey flips scum it's unlikely, but still).

There's no rush, at worst Nova will use it on Mattchew or something this turn (but you can still spellbomb it next turn)

If mafia has both a 12/1 and an 8/8 creature there is reason to rush.
If they don't we're fine playing the long game without the 8/8 creature because it's only one mafia left.
Also as Artanis just told us mafia have to eliminate every single townie, they don't even win in a 1v1 situation because of endgame, which gives us another turn.
We have plenty of time if Greymist flips red. Except for Nova noone is having a strong board right now (well and you, but you're most likely going to die today).

If nova is mafia he could probably outright claim mafia and wipe the floor with us with 22 damage the next turn, 24 the turn after that and us having something like 6 damage tops per player.


How many times do I have to repeat that you still have your Spellbomb in your board?

Unless you think Nova has a "Remove Artifact from play" card and will use it as soon as D4 starts >_>

Yeah I guess that's right... I just think it's going to be a shitton of mafia damage when we're wrong on Grey and we can't deal with that kind of thing.
My 4/4 myr has no trample, even a single 1/1 creature could just block that and it's done. I just don't think we could kill mafia in time if Nova really turns out to be mafia AND keeps that 8/8 with trample.
While I think we'd be in a great position either way if we spellbomb Nova.

I guess you're right, waiting one cycle is not going to lose us the game, especially if mattchew isn't looking townish at all, he's just not the optimal target right now.

Alarm bell


That's german grammar not a scumslip because we're using "when" and "if" the same way :p
There's a "causal wenn" (when) which would be like "if" and a "temporal wenn" (when) which is what english "when" means. So really this is just typing while thinking german for a second.

Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 21:11 Acrofales wrote:
Nova, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Your 20/20 hindsight is pretty accurate, but your ingame push on WBG was nonexistent. If you're trying to understand Toad's scumplay, then sure, go ahead, but if you're trying to tell your town members that they were wrong, then it is unbecoming when you yourself were equally wrong. All you voiced were very light suspicions of WBG in the midst of rather strong accusations of SnB.

exactly. I considered it to be quite funny actually because the moment I started pushing Nova he told people I'm stupid and that both of us are TOWN. He didn't tell people I'm mafia, he told people I'm wrong and that we're both town until something like 10 hours prior to the deadline.
And yeah as mentioned, figuring stuff out after all is all nice and dandy and if you would have posted that in the game, awesome. Frankly I'm quite sure you could come up with equally scummy things about Greymist, Prom or Obe if you check their filters for stuff like that.

Nono I was saying that your logic for me being scum included for some reason that both of us couldn't be town which is terrible reasoning which is why I pointed that out.
I speak German as well, and knowing you came from Germany made that even stranger because, correct me if I'm wrong, wann is the word for when and wenn is for if. Not sure what my point is there actually, but I had thought about that for a little while an came up with something that made that a scumslip which I have completely forgot
My entire point of this is just showing Fulla where your logic was wonky because he wanted it
Edit: also I was under the impression that everyone could understand how his logic worked both ways and didn't make much sense, so I didn't see a need to point it out instead of yelling at people to cancel their attacks on me, my mistake

Edit edit also I've only been learning german for a few years so it could just be something I don't really know about yet
Edit edit edit: also toad you played really well, I just get really mad when people don't think the same way I do and I dont understand it
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 11 2012 15:32 GMT
#1716
Okay, next time I'm playing this I'll use a Green Elves deck.
Basically I'll be invincible whether town or scum >_>

Damn kita you could have tried to get a better deck for this game
The Clone card rocks though...but the other don't >_>
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 15:35:46
July 11 2012 15:34 GMT
#1717
On July 12 2012 00:02 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 21:39 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 11 2012 19:16 Nova_Terra wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:21 WereBugs-Go wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:16 Oberyn wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:14 WereBugs-Go wrote:
On July 04 2012 04:09 Oberyn wrote:
If Grey is mafia cool Nova is most likely town and you guys will need a town 8/8 beast.
If Grey is town and you fear Nova is scum Spellbomb it yourself next turn (you still have AEther Spellbomb).

I won't spellbomb it now in case Grey flips scum, Nova is town and we just made a huge mistake that may cost us the game (well, if Grey flips scum it's unlikely, but still).

There's no rush, at worst Nova will use it on Mattchew or something this turn (but you can still spellbomb it next turn)

If mafia has both a 12/1 and an 8/8 creature there is reason to rush.
If they don't we're fine playing the long game without the 8/8 creature because it's only one mafia left.
Also as Artanis just told us mafia have to eliminate every single townie, they don't even win in a 1v1 situation because of endgame, which gives us another turn.
We have plenty of time if Greymist flips red. Except for Nova noone is having a strong board right now (well and you, but you're most likely going to die today).

If nova is mafia he could probably outright claim mafia and wipe the floor with us with 22 damage the next turn, 24 the turn after that and us having something like 6 damage tops per player.


How many times do I have to repeat that you still have your Spellbomb in your board?

Unless you think Nova has a "Remove Artifact from play" card and will use it as soon as D4 starts >_>

Yeah I guess that's right... I just think it's going to be a shitton of mafia damage when we're wrong on Grey and we can't deal with that kind of thing.
My 4/4 myr has no trample, even a single 1/1 creature could just block that and it's done. I just don't think we could kill mafia in time if Nova really turns out to be mafia AND keeps that 8/8 with trample.
While I think we'd be in a great position either way if we spellbomb Nova.

I guess you're right, waiting one cycle is not going to lose us the game, especially if mattchew isn't looking townish at all, he's just not the optimal target right now.

Alarm bell


That's german grammar not a scumslip because we're using "when" and "if" the same way :p
There's a "causal wenn" (when) which would be like "if" and a "temporal wenn" (when) which is what english "when" means. So really this is just typing while thinking german for a second.

On July 11 2012 21:11 Acrofales wrote:
Nova, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Your 20/20 hindsight is pretty accurate, but your ingame push on WBG was nonexistent. If you're trying to understand Toad's scumplay, then sure, go ahead, but if you're trying to tell your town members that they were wrong, then it is unbecoming when you yourself were equally wrong. All you voiced were very light suspicions of WBG in the midst of rather strong accusations of SnB.

exactly. I considered it to be quite funny actually because the moment I started pushing Nova he told people I'm stupid and that both of us are TOWN. He didn't tell people I'm mafia, he told people I'm wrong and that we're both town until something like 10 hours prior to the deadline.
And yeah as mentioned, figuring stuff out after all is all nice and dandy and if you would have posted that in the game, awesome. Frankly I'm quite sure you could come up with equally scummy things about Greymist, Prom or Obe if you check their filters for stuff like that.

Nono I was saying that your logic for me being scum included for some reason that both of us couldn't be town which is terrible reasoning which is why I pointed that out.
I speak German as well, and knowing you came from Germany made that even stranger because, correct me if I'm wrong, wann is the word for when and wenn is for if. Not sure what my point is there actually, but I had thought about that for a little while an came up with something that made that a scumslip which I have completely forgot
My entire point of this is just showing Fulla where your logic was wonky because he wanted it
Edit: also I was under the impression that everyone could understand how his logic worked both ways and didn't make much sense, so I didn't see a need to point it out instead of yelling at people to cancel their attacks on me, my mistake

Edit edit also I've only been learning german for a few years so it could just be something I don't really know about yet
Edit edit edit: also toad you played really well, I just get really mad when people don't think the same way I do and I dont understand it

Kind of. wann is more of a thing for questions only and at least where I'm from wenn is used for pretty much everything when you could as well make intentions more clear and use other words like falls because that only works one way.

"Ich mache meine Hausaufgaben wenn ich dazu komme" could both be translated as
"I'm going to do my homework when I get around doing so" or something like that (the moment I got some spare time?) which means I'll definitely do them just not sure when.
or
"I'm going to do my homework if I have the time to do so" which is I'll do them or I won't depending on something else.
So while those are different in english I don't really differentiate between those (at least not in words) when talking or thinking german :p
That's the reason for not differentiating between those things in english as well when I'm in a hurry.

Oh and btw don't get me wrong. People usually take what I say postgame as ignorant or arrogant because of the way I put it but it's nothing like that. I disagree with the scumslip. I agree with everything else you said.
It's just that people usually figure out themselves just fine what they did good and if you tell them they did good on top of that they'll usually ignore everything else based on the "woaah, I did really good". So that's why I'm focusing on stuff I don't agree with. As mentioned everything else you said I totally agree with but I don't need to tell you that, do I ? :p

On July 12 2012 00:32 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, next time I'm playing this I'll use a Green Elves deck.
Basically I'll be invincible whether town or scum >_>

Damn kita you could have tried to get a better deck for this game
The Clone card rocks though...but the other don't >_>

SCREW YOU, exactly my thoughts.

Guess I'll play a "destroy everything with less than X" deck if everyone thinks so :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 11 2012 15:47 GMT
#1718
On July 12 2012 00:34 Toadesstern wrote:
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On July 12 2012 00:32 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, next time I'm playing this I'll use a Green Elves deck.
Basically I'll be invincible whether town or scum >_>

Damn kita you could have tried to get a better deck for this game
The Clone card rocks though...but the other don't >_>

SCREW YOU, exactly my thoughts.

Guess I'll play a "destroy everything with less than X" deck if everyone thinks so :p


You know, cards like Fireball and Desintegrate and those "Deals X damage to player" cards would be pretty sweet with that "Helpfulness" global card >_>
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 11 2012 16:10 GMT
#1719
MY DECK WILL BE BIORHYTHM FUCK YOU ALLLLLLLLL
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 16:28:47
July 11 2012 16:27 GMT
#1720
too bad Artanis didn't allow me to play my initial plat angel + darksteel forge deck

not even angel's grace was allowed... I guess... I mentioned it but never asked if it's okay to use it.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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