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On July 01 2012 19:27 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:23 Nova_Terra wrote:On July 01 2012 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
The scum in this game are strongandbig/Matthew. Go ahead and kill me for the following reasons.
1. So you guys stop wasting time and energy
2. So you can get a reality check into your system and catch actual scum
3. So I get to see gonzaw wrong
You sir are the new Risk.Nuke. Well done.
On a non mafia note I am ashamed that my brother was introduced through this game and your spam. I'm starting to agree with this ( the part about s&b and mattchew) You know....I like that. People posting what they think of the thread "as they go by reading it" makes it very transparent of them. If they just said "okay I'll read the thread", then wait a couple of hours before posting their thoughts, then if they were scum they could easily read the whole thread, capture all the events that happened, and think what the best response would be based on that (taking everything into account). If they had to post "as they read it", then they take away that ability, and they may fuck up by saying something and then realizing they should have said something else; meaning they would most likely not do that at all...which means that the people that do it are more likely town. So Nova, keep doing that to see your thought process (specially when the juicy stuff comes). I realize you are not reading this (and reading the thread instead) so whatever. However props to you for doing that, it makes me feel better about you for now (and that the whole no-night-kill was staged)
Now I look like reall smart scum doing what you said proves townie twice over. Drunk post and post as I go but I'm still not scum, not that samrt. I like Nov'as posts here, want more form him, we have him all the tramply power what will he does with it?
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Hallo, marv here. As you may have noticed I've been pretty absent. I didn't quite realise how heavy the Magic stuff was gonna be and despite trying pretty hard to keep track of what was what I just got more lost. So I've basically left it to Toad, and Toad is pretty awesome so you're in good hands.
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On July 02 2012 07:50 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 15:09 Oberyn wrote:So yeah, take your pick:1)Nova and Greymist 2)Nova and Mattchew 3)Nova and Promethelax 4)Mattchew and Greymist If the real scumteam is not one of this, well I guess it means I suck but I hope I'm right. WBG and Fulla are very apparent town IMO, Zealos as well, and I'm getting more town vibes out of S&B lately (after rereading his filter).....although his "cases" seem so bad that no townie could possibly make them (he posted drunk ramblings so that's a plus, let's hope that heuristic doesn't fail me  ) Today we should get some heavy damage reduction going, since we could only deal 3 damage last day and we are losing ground to scum, even if they didn't use their kill (because they can already kill someone next turn). Although now that I think about it we are not really that short of time, yes me+kita will probably die tomorrow...but after that scum will always need 2 turns to kill someone (until like 4 turns from now). We have lots of Town KP to distribute, and the fact that nobody can block makes it better. Hell you guys could even attack Zealos for all I want if you are so sure he's scum. If he does end up being scum him having 18 HP by late-game would suck; but I hope that's not the case. Can we spread damage out? I still think everyone at 1 life is better for town than everyone at a million billion lfe. GerY said I was wrong and I listened but I don't trus t GYre now. Why is it better if everyone has a million lives and scum has no lives, scum won;t flip forever we don't have information forever townine atttacks townie and chaos rules. Need flips, need deaths need easy killed scum.
...isn't that exactly what I was saying?
We have lots of potential damage to use, so I think we should use the most of it as possible before all townies die and we lose all damage.
For instance, I wouldn't mind us having this scenario or something similar:
-Greymist dead
-Matt and S&B at 5-7 HP (or Matt dead as well)
-Zealos at 10 HP
Just in case I'm wrong about S&B/Zealos or something, and you guys can kill them later easily.
As long as scum don't have the ability to instantly kill someone with their own creatures it will be fine I think.
On July 02 2012 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:
In all honesty Zealos and matt are secondary to how I now feel about S&B after thinking about it a lot.
Give me some time to think about that target, and I'll get back to you.
Whatever just don't use it on the beasts, or no Nova/WBG/Fulla/Prome.
Using it on S&B seems like a waste for me (if he is town), so I'd prefer you doing it on Zealos (nothing is lost).
Or I could just use Echoing Truth right now; the thing is that I'm giving you this option because I don't like Zealos having so many useless creatures.
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On July 01 2012 20:32 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 07:52 Oberyn wrote:
Nah Fulla is town I think
Well, this lack of night kill made me extremely paranoid right now.
It seemed like something they planned, not that they "forgot". Even if Nova was town, they could have attacked WBG, or Prome, or someone else; but damn.
You know, this game is actually pretty easy now that I think about it, if we follow this:
Get everybody except me+another townie to like 2 HP.
After that, kill everybody except the townie.
Win
That's it, we only need to find 1 more townie (I think WBG is the most likely one) to win us the game.
The total HP of everybody except me and WBG is 114. If everybody is at 2 HP, that means we'd need 100 damage
We have 48 potential damage right now, and if we get 12 points of damage total with the new creatures in play, we can do that in 2 turns.
This turn, people summon creatures up to 12 power total, and use the 48 damage on everybody except me and WBG. We'd need 52 damage to get to the "ideal" situation above.
Next turn I die and lose 8 damage, dropping it to 40, however if we get at least creatures with 12 power total, we can deal 52 damage.
Next WBG gets hit for 14 points
However, the next turn everybody will be at 2 HP, and WBG will be at 14.
Everybody then just attack each other in a circle to take their 2 HP away, and WBG will be the sole survivor.
If WBG is town we win the game.
So yeah, we only need to find 1 townie to win this. I think WBG is most likely townie and the only one I'm not paranoid right now, so it can work with him. The problem with this is that you die today oberyn T_T Also I oppose any plan that banks on wbg being town, I'd prefer Fulla actually
Maybe I missed reasons but Nove, why do you pferer Fulla? Fulla is the Lurkies lurker in the lurkerverse. What makes him towns?
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On July 02 2012 07:57 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:27 Oberyn wrote:On July 01 2012 19:23 Nova_Terra wrote:On July 01 2012 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
The scum in this game are strongandbig/Matthew. Go ahead and kill me for the following reasons.
1. So you guys stop wasting time and energy
2. So you can get a reality check into your system and catch actual scum
3. So I get to see gonzaw wrong
You sir are the new Risk.Nuke. Well done.
On a non mafia note I am ashamed that my brother was introduced through this game and your spam. I'm starting to agree with this ( the part about s&b and mattchew) You know....I like that. People posting what they think of the thread "as they go by reading it" makes it very transparent of them. If they just said "okay I'll read the thread", then wait a couple of hours before posting their thoughts, then if they were scum they could easily read the whole thread, capture all the events that happened, and think what the best response would be based on that (taking everything into account). If they had to post "as they read it", then they take away that ability, and they may fuck up by saying something and then realizing they should have said something else; meaning they would most likely not do that at all...which means that the people that do it are more likely town. So Nova, keep doing that to see your thought process (specially when the juicy stuff comes). I realize you are not reading this (and reading the thread instead) so whatever. However props to you for doing that, it makes me feel better about you for now (and that the whole no-night-kill was staged) Now I look like reall smart scum doing what you said proves townie twice over. Drunk post and post as I go but I'm still not scum, not that samrt. I like Nov'as posts here, want more form him, we have him all the tramply power what will he does with it?
wat
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On July 01 2012 21:57 WereBugs-Go wrote:Re and stop with this clusterfuck. The mafia not shooting was supposed to confuse us, as I already mentionend at least 3 times... The only purpose of that was to cast doubt on us and therefore start the "maybe we should lynch someone else/someone else first" discussion. I'm going to attack Greymist this turn and I hope people do the same. The worst we can do is change everything we've got, because although we don't know why exactly mafia did not shoot we can be sure they did it for some reason. Therefore I'm not letting it influence me and I'll just do what I was going to do before that happened => attacking Greymist. Once he flipped red we can talk about what scenario makes sense and who could be the 2nd mafia. If we have a guy or two who are most likely going to flip mafia and a shitton of other possible solutions for the 2nd mafia we "lynch" into the guy we're sure on, not the 2nd guy that might be mafia because it makes sense considering the connections between those two if the first is mafia. We're not lynching for "connections" unless we have a flip. It's simple as that. Again Greymist, Kita and I are the vets in this game. Lynching Grey makes sense from a mafia-Balance point of view. Lynching Grey makes sense from a MTG-Balance point of view. Lynching Grey makes sense from a "what happened in this game" point of view. So even if you don't think he's more scummy than people like Zealos or Matt or whoever else this should be something to consider. If a guy like Grey is considered to be equally scummy like a guy like Zealos that's way more telling for Grey because he knows how to play the game and shouldn't be considered scummy in the first place unless of course there is a reason to appear scummy (like being scum for example?) We're not lynching for stupid behavior unless we know the guy is smart. Greymist is smart and he's behaving completly anti-town. Now don't give me that "well would a mafia do that? I don't think so" shit because yeah a mafia would / could do that as well as a last resort of a defence and Greymist was under a lot of pressure from the very beginning. It started with a little pressure, reaction fishing and stuff from me d1 to see what's going to happen and to finally start a conversation but his answeres were so bad other people realized that as well, even before I started explaining what I did on d2. Again, Greymist knows how to play mafia and he knows how to play MTG (apparently), yet he's the one guy that refused to do something at all. Sure Fulla and Zealos for example did the very same but as mentioned (I'm quoting myself here): and I can't be sure wether or not Fulla and Zealos are smart and know how to play mafia at all. Greymist does know how to play the game and he completly refuses to do so.
I don't like blance as a reason. I thought you (toud) didn't either. Have to fins the game I was reading where you saiid that. Mayne I'm wrong. Either way I don't think balance = good reason for kill. GreY's play = good reason.
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oberyn can you tell me why you think zealos and fulla are town. And WBG for that matter.
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On July 01 2012 22:03 WereBugs-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 21:33 Nova_Terra wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Oberyn wrote:On July 01 2012 19:23 Nova_Terra wrote:On July 01 2012 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
The scum in this game are strongandbig/Matthew. Go ahead and kill me for the following reasons.
1. So you guys stop wasting time and energy
2. So you can get a reality check into your system and catch actual scum
3. So I get to see gonzaw wrong
You sir are the new Risk.Nuke. Well done.
On a non mafia note I am ashamed that my brother was introduced through this game and your spam. I'm starting to agree with this ( the part about s&b and mattchew) You know....I like that. People posting what they think of the thread "as they go by reading it" makes it very transparent of them. If they just said "okay I'll read the thread", then wait a couple of hours before posting their thoughts, then if they were scum they could easily read the whole thread, capture all the events that happened, and think what the best response would be based on that (taking everything into account). If they had to post "as they read it", then they take away that ability, and they may fuck up by saying something and then realizing they should have said something else; meaning they would most likely not do that at all...which means that the people that do it are more likely town. So Nova, keep doing that to see your thought process (specially when the juicy stuff comes). I realize you are not reading this (and reading the thread instead) so whatever. However props to you for doing that, it makes me feel better about you for now (and that the whole no-night-kill was staged) On June 28 2012 15:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also I thing sitting back and thinking about opinions is bullshit truthfully, opinions and thoughts should be stated as soon as they are thought of, they should be raw and unrefined and can be explained later. That's more chances for scum to slip up and townieness to shine. I still don't think that shitting up the threa is a bad thing unless there is endless filler. Also zealos is town, no way he woulda told us to move past the night kill first as scum (at least if I'm town) Are you talking about that post over here from page 47: Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 10:48 Zealos wrote:
I'm really inclined to say ignore the non-shot and continue as normal. Presuming the missing shot was deliberate, it was designed to cause chaos. Lets not let it. Because I did this post on page 46: Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 08:51 WereBugs-Go wrote:
wtf happened? oO
Is this supposed to be some wifom because they couldn't kill gonzaw and didn't want to attack me / Nova because that'd confirm me or because it would confirm nova (either way lol)? I can't think of this being effective unless we screw up big time. I'd say either way, this is supposed to confuse us SOMEHOW.
Therefore I'd say we don't talk / think about that at all. Surely mafia wants us to talk / think about it for some reason. We're given a free circle. Let's use that circle without even getting into wifom.
If someone else already said something like that sorry. I'm just now catching up. Also I have to kill one of my monsters... I'm still not drawing lands and if I kill one I can draw to more cards.
Does your "I guess that confirms Zealos" argument still hold anything of value?
And I posted this On July 01 2012 07:36 Promethelax wrote:
I am so fucking confused. What is scum doing? Why not weaken someone since we'll wifom to no end and, if they attacked town, it could only help them.
I very glad about this new global card. Everyone has to make reads and do life damage to someone. I still think that Zealos seems scummy, though his posts have improved. GreY's posting has improved too but he has seemed really scummy up until now, I think that this is just good scum play and he is seizing his opportunity to look like one of us, if I'm wrong I am really sorry GreY. S+B seems a little up in the air to me at the moment, I have a null read on him and I wish I had something. Fulla and Matt please start posting more I can't stand lurkers.
I've just cast a Plains and plan on casting a creature as well, unless anyone says anything I will do that soon so that everyone has more information about what I am doing.
Gonzaw: I'd be much happier with you if you would lay off the spammy posting, I know that is what you do all the time but it would be nice to be able to catch up on the thread in less than an hour after I get off of work. I'd love to hear some reads from Kita and Marv who seem totally none-existent right now.
Toad: you are usually much more talkative, where is the hypno-toad we know and love? You are too quite for my tastes.
a pagge before that. Zealows was third to say it at best. How that is proving he is town greenie? Zealos still lurky red man who only wants to be alive lurky redman.
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On July 02 2012 01:25 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 01:00 WereBugs-Go wrote:Also here's another thing. Yeah I said I don't want us to talk about this no-shot but I really think it was weird for the purpose of being weird. This shot is troublesome for the Nova, Obe and myself as we're doubting our townreads because we're asking ourselfes "why didn't they shoot at least one of Nova+WBG" and I think that's the purpose of this no-shot. I'm talking about this because of Obe's case on Nova. I think it is somewhat weak, Nova might or might not end up being mafia but I think this only started because of the no-shot, so here we go: - Let's assume I am modconfirmed town for a second, I think obe is town and I got a slight townread on nova. That's what I said the most recent cycle. What does that mean for me? Surely Obe didn't get shot because they want to kill him with a 2nd hit instead of leaving him alive with 2HP. But why didn't they shoot me? Probably because that would have made Nova look bad because they didn't shoot him although he has a 8/8 trample thingie. So from my point of view this no-shot should trigger a "wtf, I was wrong on Nova and he's actually mafia" reaction.
- Same goes the other way arround. Let's assume I am nova, I am a modconfirmed town, I think obe is town and I got a slight townread on WBG. Pretty sure he said something like that as well. It's a slightly different situation because shooting me could make sense from his point of view because I'm a Toad+Marv hydra and that's scary as well but a no-shot should instantly trigger the same "wtf, I was wrong on WBG and he's actually mafia" reaction if he's town.
- And if Obe is town having a townread on Nova and myself, it should trigger a "wtf, either WBG or Nova has to be mafia, there's no other reason for not shooting into one of them" and frankly he just said he thinks very strongly that Nova is mafia yesterday after that shot.
Those conclusions are logical and they should come to my / Novas / Gonzaws mind instantly. I can see Obe thought of it as he clearly thinks Nova is mafia right now. I know I thought about it as well but didn't mention it because I didn't want to start the wifom-talk and Nova either was as smart as I am or he didn't realize it. Funny thing is: It's again a reason to attack Greymist. This no-shot does nothing but casting doubt between us 3 while it has nothing to do with Greymist. It pushes us into thinking "well that means this guy HAS to be mafia" and I think that's what's going on. If Greymist somehow magically flips town, fine we can talk about this and one of us 3 has to be mafia but right now I'd say mafia did something unlogically (not shooting) to push us into trying to figure out what could be the most logical solution to this problem, thus defending Greymist by mislynching into one of our townreads because of that no-shot. This is all way to convenient to be true. There is a shitton of "information" we could get from that no-shot but only one explanation can be true. A lot of it is stuff like "well that guy has to be mafia then I guess" but I can't think of a scenario that involves Greymist. We're killing Greymist today and killing the 2nd mafia tomorrow. If Greymist somehow really flips town we're searching for mafia in Nov, Obe or myself but if Grey is really mafia the other 3 names are all town. That's it from me for a while. On my way to my place again and probably won't post something for the next 16 hours or something like that. Have to start SSB mafia later when I'm back (24:00 my time) and I won't have time to post in here between starting that game and sleeping I guess. Two things: 1. why couldn't mafia have thrown around the same amount of doubt by attacking a lurker or someone under suspicion? 2. It doesn't seem like Nova came to that same conclusion. Under your analysis what does that mean?
They could have, but not shooting at all is a stronger "wtf just happened"-moment than shooting someone town didn't think would end up being shot.
On July 02 2012 02:38 Nova_Terra wrote:
WBG why do you come to the conclusion that if grey flips town one of me you or obe is scum?
If Greymist ends up flipping town I doubt they would have not shot unless of course they really forgot about it. So far I'm sticking with: "As long as I think Grey is mafia and don't have something that tells me otherwise I'm pretty sure they tried to cast doubt."
If Grey is SOMEHOW a townie there is no reason not to shoot into either you or me unless one of us is mafia and mafia doesn't want to tell us which one of us is mafia. Picture the following situation:
Obe dead and confirmed town by that point, Greymist dead and confirmed town, I got shot by mafia or am already dead because of mafia and confirmed town. What might that mean about you? You're looking bad, because mafia tried not to shoot me.
Same goes the other way around.
I don't think it's going to come to that situation because I'm pretty sure Greymist is mafia but I still thought about it.
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On July 01 2012 22:04 Fulla wrote:
@Were I am actually experienced in mafia and would say I'm good. That's up to you to decide ofcourse
Forum based is very to me thou. I can barely keep up with the amount obe posts let alone everyone else. When you play it online in real time it becomes 90% trolling and laying low to stay alive. I'm trying to adapt and speak more. Bare with me :-)
THAN WHY HAVE YOU GIVEEN US NOTHING? IF YOU ARWE GOOD AT MAFIA HELP THE TOWN! WE NEED IT! WhY HAVE YOU BEEN PLAYING LIEK THIS IS YUO ARE GOOD?
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On July 02 2012 01:00 WereBugs-Go wrote:Also here's another thing. Yeah I said I don't want us to talk about this no-shot but I really think it was weird for the purpose of being weird. This shot is troublesome for the Nova, Obe and myself as we're doubting our townreads because we're asking ourselfes "why didn't they shoot at least one of Nova+WBG" and I think that's the purpose of this no-shot. I'm talking about this because of Obe's case on Nova. I think it is somewhat weak, Nova might or might not end up being mafia but I think this only started because of the no-shot, so here we go: - Let's assume I am modconfirmed town for a second, I think obe is town and I got a slight townread on nova. That's what I said the most recent cycle. What does that mean for me? Surely Obe didn't get shot because they want to kill him with a 2nd hit instead of leaving him alive with 2HP. But why didn't they shoot me? Probably because that would have made Nova look bad because they didn't shoot him although he has a 8/8 trample thingie. So from my point of view this no-shot should trigger a "wtf, I was wrong on Nova and he's actually mafia" reaction.
- Same goes the other way arround. Let's assume I am nova, I am a modconfirmed town, I think obe is town and I got a slight townread on WBG. Pretty sure he said something like that as well. It's a slightly different situation because shooting me could make sense from his point of view because I'm a Toad+Marv hydra and that's scary as well but a no-shot should instantly trigger the same "wtf, I was wrong on WBG and he's actually mafia" reaction if he's town.
- And if Obe is town having a townread on Nova and myself, it should trigger a "wtf, either WBG or Nova has to be mafia, there's no other reason for not shooting into one of them" and frankly he just said he thinks very strongly that Nova is mafia yesterday after that shot.
Those conclusions are logical and they should come to my / Novas / Gonzaws mind instantly. I can see Obe thought of it as he clearly thinks Nova is mafia right now. I know I thought about it as well but didn't mention it because I didn't want to start the wifom-talk and Nova either was as smart as I am or he didn't realize it. Funny thing is: It's again a reason to attack Greymist. This no-shot does nothing but casting doubt between us 3 while it has nothing to do with Greymist. It pushes us into thinking "well that means this guy HAS to be mafia" and I think that's what's going on. If Greymist somehow magically flips town, fine we can talk about this and one of us 3 has to be mafia but right now I'd say mafia did something unlogically (not shooting) to push us into trying to figure out what could be the most logical solution to this problem, thus defending Greymist by mislynching into one of our townreads because of that no-shot. This is all way to convenient to be true. There is a shitton of "information" we could get from that no-shot but only one explanation can be true. A lot of it is stuff like "well that guy has to be mafia then I guess" but I can't think of a scenario that involves Greymist. We're killing Greymist today and killing the 2nd mafia tomorrow. If Greymist somehow really flips town we're searching for mafia in Nov, Obe or myself but if Grey is really mafia the other 3 names are all town. That's it from me for a while. On my way to my place again and probably won't post something for the next 16 hours or something like that. Have to start SSB mafia later when I'm back (24:00 my time) and I won't have time to post in here between starting that game and sleeping I guess.
THis tjis this! Scumis trying to turn us against eah other. We still need to find scum, wifomno good for us. Wifom good for sccum so we kill who we were going to kill before all wifom nonsense.
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On July 02 2012 01:38 Fulla wrote:
I agree either they made an error or deliberately did this to shake us up and cast doubt. There were plenty of targets.
I find it strange how grey doesnt post anymore. I vote attack him as planned before this 'mindscrew scenario' happened.
No error, only person that srubby here is me and I=townie so they did it on purpose. Not sure the purpose besides confusion though. No error.
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On July 02 2012 08:03 Mattchew wrote:
oberyn can you tell me why you think zealos and fulla are town. And WBG for that matter.
Read my filter
In short:
Zealos: He seemed to not post with fear and be the "reaction" kind of guy (which are most likely scum). He interacted with people without hesitation, and I got a gut town read on him based on the tone and aggressiveness of his posts (which I don't remember him doing so as scum).
Meh, I guess I could be wrong, since he didn't really contribute that much, but the manner in which he did seemed townie to me
Fulla: He seems to be genuinely interested in discussions and contributing whatever he can. Also I don't see him as scum faking not knowing whether scum used their beast or not just to gain "town cred" or anything; I think he may have legitimately not know scum used their beast (he posted that in the Board Thread).
Again, because of this as well:
On June 29 2012 23:57 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also i do want to draw attention to fulla. Not negative attention actually; i think hes town.
There is no way that revealing his sick damage spells would benefit scum; scum would definitely hide them. Instead, Fulla is trying to get mana so they can be used from our direction. No way scum would do that. Furthermore im starting to get newbie town vibes from him, which is good.
Fulla was way too open with town, took our suggestions, helped us (he gave Nova mana instead of just casting his Electropotence). He seems to care about town this game, and that makes me think he's town.
WBG: He's been heavily discussing and driving discussion since the beginning. When he's here he's active, post all his opinions, posts without hesitating, and seems like he actually wants to figure out what's going on.
Also Toad is not acting like when he's scum (at least like in LI), he's very open here, and interested in town, unlike what he does as scum.
Now Matt....how about you post what you think instead of asking me about it? (If you had read my previous posts it would have been obvious what I think of some of these players you asked me about)
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I find it VERY odd that both Grey and Mattchew are just not playing the game. They are passive as shit and just not playing at all......I would think that maybe as scum they would try a little bit more? Maybe FoS Prome or Fulla and create chaos or something? They are just around doing nothing, only responding to small comments and nothing else.
It's worrying if they are scum (because maybe they should have forfeited by now?), but also if they are town (how the hell do they just not care at all what happens?)
Ahh, I'm getting 2nd doubts again 
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On July 02 2012 07:58 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 07:57 Promethelax wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Oberyn wrote:On July 01 2012 19:23 Nova_Terra wrote:On July 01 2012 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
The scum in this game are strongandbig/Matthew. Go ahead and kill me for the following reasons.
1. So you guys stop wasting time and energy
2. So you can get a reality check into your system and catch actual scum
3. So I get to see gonzaw wrong
You sir are the new Risk.Nuke. Well done.
On a non mafia note I am ashamed that my brother was introduced through this game and your spam. I'm starting to agree with this ( the part about s&b and mattchew) You know....I like that. People posting what they think of the thread "as they go by reading it" makes it very transparent of them. If they just said "okay I'll read the thread", then wait a couple of hours before posting their thoughts, then if they were scum they could easily read the whole thread, capture all the events that happened, and think what the best response would be based on that (taking everything into account). If they had to post "as they read it", then they take away that ability, and they may fuck up by saying something and then realizing they should have said something else; meaning they would most likely not do that at all...which means that the people that do it are more likely town. So Nova, keep doing that to see your thought process (specially when the juicy stuff comes). I realize you are not reading this (and reading the thread instead) so whatever. However props to you for doing that, it makes me feel better about you for now (and that the whole no-night-kill was staged) Now I look like reall smart scum doing what you said proves townie twice over. Drunk post and post as I go but I'm still not scum, not that samrt. I like Nov'as posts here, want more form him, we have him all the tramply power what will he does with it? wat
I look like a smart scum becuase I am doing two things you said prove soemone town: I am posting while drink and posting thouhgtrs as I thread.
Sorrrry for spamming up the threadd by the way. Been trying ot force myself to post, I'm too new at this game and rpttye intinmated by really good playing people in herer. So, Srory about hat.
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On July 02 2012 08:18 Oberyn wrote:I find it VERY odd that both Grey and Mattchew are just not playing the game. They are passive as shit and just not playing at all......I would think that maybe as scum they would try a little bit more? Maybe FoS Prome or Fulla and create chaos or something? They are just around doing nothing, only responding to small comments and nothing else. It's worrying if they are scum (because maybe they should have forfeited by now?), but also if they are town (how the hell do they just not care at all what happens?) Ahh, I'm getting 2nd doubts again
Do you find my play to be pushing a scum agenda?
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or do you find my death to be well he wasn't doing shit anyway kind of death
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Also, your NT post on fulla, its not like he can use his sick damage spell all of a sudden and not garner a ton of suspicion, its actually easier to just use especially if "shot" in the wrong direction as provoked by town.
I agree more with your thoughts on WBG as I haven't read into him as much as I should have before questioning his alignment.
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On July 02 2012 08:34 Mattchew wrote:
or do you find my death to be well he wasn't doing shit anyway kind of death
This mostly (as in, I find you suspicious because you are not doing shit)
You just seemed to try and survive or something and try to get everybody to ignore you or not notice you, you just laid low pretty much the whole game.
Your defense on Grey didn't make much sense to me (you said he was "posting logically" and "not lying" and you wouldn't attack him just for those reasons, and I thought that was bullshit).
Your 1v1v1 plan was pretty bad as well.
Why have you been acting like this Mattchew?
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On July 02 2012 08:03 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 22:03 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 01 2012 21:33 Nova_Terra wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Oberyn wrote:On July 01 2012 19:23 Nova_Terra wrote:On July 01 2012 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
The scum in this game are strongandbig/Matthew. Go ahead and kill me for the following reasons.
1. So you guys stop wasting time and energy
2. So you can get a reality check into your system and catch actual scum
3. So I get to see gonzaw wrong
You sir are the new Risk.Nuke. Well done.
On a non mafia note I am ashamed that my brother was introduced through this game and your spam. I'm starting to agree with this ( the part about s&b and mattchew) You know....I like that. People posting what they think of the thread "as they go by reading it" makes it very transparent of them. If they just said "okay I'll read the thread", then wait a couple of hours before posting their thoughts, then if they were scum they could easily read the whole thread, capture all the events that happened, and think what the best response would be based on that (taking everything into account). If they had to post "as they read it", then they take away that ability, and they may fuck up by saying something and then realizing they should have said something else; meaning they would most likely not do that at all...which means that the people that do it are more likely town. So Nova, keep doing that to see your thought process (specially when the juicy stuff comes). I realize you are not reading this (and reading the thread instead) so whatever. However props to you for doing that, it makes me feel better about you for now (and that the whole no-night-kill was staged) On June 28 2012 15:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also I thing sitting back and thinking about opinions is bullshit truthfully, opinions and thoughts should be stated as soon as they are thought of, they should be raw and unrefined and can be explained later. That's more chances for scum to slip up and townieness to shine. I still don't think that shitting up the threa is a bad thing unless there is endless filler. Also zealos is town, no way he woulda told us to move past the night kill first as scum (at least if I'm town) Are you talking about that post over here from page 47: On July 01 2012 10:48 Zealos wrote:
I'm really inclined to say ignore the non-shot and continue as normal. Presuming the missing shot was deliberate, it was designed to cause chaos. Lets not let it. Because I did this post on page 46: On July 01 2012 08:51 WereBugs-Go wrote:
wtf happened? oO
Is this supposed to be some wifom because they couldn't kill gonzaw and didn't want to attack me / Nova because that'd confirm me or because it would confirm nova (either way lol)? I can't think of this being effective unless we screw up big time. I'd say either way, this is supposed to confuse us SOMEHOW.
Therefore I'd say we don't talk / think about that at all. Surely mafia wants us to talk / think about it for some reason. We're given a free circle. Let's use that circle without even getting into wifom.
If someone else already said something like that sorry. I'm just now catching up. Also I have to kill one of my monsters... I'm still not drawing lands and if I kill one I can draw to more cards.
Does your "I guess that confirms Zealos" argument still hold anything of value? And I posted this Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 07:36 Promethelax wrote:
I am so fucking confused. What is scum doing? Why not weaken someone since we'll wifom to no end and, if they attacked town, it could only help them.
I very glad about this new global card. Everyone has to make reads and do life damage to someone. I still think that Zealos seems scummy, though his posts have improved. GreY's posting has improved too but he has seemed really scummy up until now, I think that this is just good scum play and he is seizing his opportunity to look like one of us, if I'm wrong I am really sorry GreY. S+B seems a little up in the air to me at the moment, I have a null read on him and I wish I had something. Fulla and Matt please start posting more I can't stand lurkers.
I've just cast a Plains and plan on casting a creature as well, unless anyone says anything I will do that soon so that everyone has more information about what I am doing.
Gonzaw: I'd be much happier with you if you would lay off the spammy posting, I know that is what you do all the time but it would be nice to be able to catch up on the thread in less than an hour after I get off of work. I'd love to hear some reads from Kita and Marv who seem totally none-existent right now.
Toad: you are usually much more talkative, where is the hypno-toad we know and love? You are too quite for my tastes. a pagge before that. Zealows was third to say it at best. How that is proving he is town greenie? Zealos still lurky red man who only wants to be alive lurky redman.
That's completely different. You need to stop drunk posting, it's bloody annoying and a waste of time reading over.
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