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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 11 2012 20:18 GMT
#1761
lolwat

I'm not ready to lynch him (although delurking like that is rather... curious), but I really want to see him in the spotlight a bit. He's flown perfectly under the radar all game.

Also, I never called you scum.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 11 2012 20:43 GMT
#1762
Active lurking at its finest... Oh Maju Maju.
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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 11 2012 21:28 GMT
#1763
Alright, according to my maffs, there is 12 of us left. Assuming we don't lynch any scum between now and the end of the game, we lose with two more mislynches, assuming there are no saves. Dat's bad, but not the end of the world. I'm assuming since the medic was killed last night that Hyaach and I are probably going to be out of here shortly. A few final thoughts:

  • Lynch Maju before you lynch Grush. According to my spreadsheet, Maju rolled scum and Grush didn't. If he flips town, take a long hard look at Vivax.

  • Hyaach is right, VE needs to be vetted. Take a long hard look at him.

  • If I had more time, I would go back and look at what Austin had to say about the ET/Twelve mislynch. He had some good stuff in there that got buried. See if you can't find some scum out of that mess.

  • Casualman is probably not scum, just mad. Someone find out why he's been voting VE.

  • AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, have some discussion today. The lack of posts this cycle makes me sad. (Some of that is probably my fault, sorry )

I'm off to housechurch, I might be back late, but I expect I'll be dead tonight. If that's the case, gl town. If not, hurrah! brb
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18216 Posts
July 11 2012 21:36 GMT
#1764
Ghost, mind explaining that spreadsheet? I have my doubts about Maju being scum, mainly from his play around the whole Hyaach/Katina thing: it felt like he was a townie trying to make up his own mind about the thing. He spent a lot of time engaging Katina in discussion and not Hyaach, which is sort of the reverse of what I'd expect from scum trying to catch the DT in a "scumslip". Mind giving your explanation of why he's scummier than grush?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 11 2012 22:15 GMT
#1765
Maju posted about katina when she already had 4-5 votes on her. And he didn't spend a lot of time engaging her in a discussion.

In fact, he only quoted her in the post designed to put the vote on her.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&currentpage=78#1545

Aside from the katina busvote, he only targetted townies.

This is the kind of scummy lurker we should be lynching imo. Grush doesn't look good either, but I'd save the trolls for the last choices since killing them is coinflippy.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2012 22:17 GMT
#1766
Coin-flippy is better now - can't keep coin-flippy alive at lylo.

I want to lynch into Grush/Casual tomorrow. Neither of them are to be alive at LYLO. If we're beyond that point and they're both town, we lose. Simple as that.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 11 2012 22:27 GMT
#1767
Are you serious, VE? If we lynch 1 mafia next they are left with 1 KP instead of 2. And you want to go for the coinflippy ones?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18216 Posts
July 11 2012 22:57 GMT
#1768
Hi VE. You want to lynch the coinflips because they're town and it wins you the game? The worst part is that I agree with you. If even one of them is scum we can't risk being left with them at lylo. There's a risk they're both town, but that's a risk we would have to take at lylo anyway.

Out of the two, I favour grush for reasons above, but I want to hear your opinion.

More generally, I want more opinions from you. You've been really really quiet and that is just really really out of character for you (regardless of alignment).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18216 Posts
July 11 2012 23:01 GMT
#1769
@Vivax: are you sure we're looking at the same filter? I have him engaging with Katina in like 7 posts after the vote.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:26:44
July 11 2012 23:01 GMT
#1770
Day 5: A graceful dive

[image loading]

Nightly practice seemed easier with a smaller circus, Hyaach the Trapeze Artist stood atop the tall platform and prepared to practice his stunt. Looking down Hyaach saw the netting ghost_403 had helped set up before he had climbed the tower. At the end of the tent clungghost_403 onto the platform he had nervously climbed atop and was preparing to help Hyaach with a difficult two man jump across the tent.

Hyaach grabbed onto the massive metal swing dangling from the rafters and jumped towards ghost_403 and a short time ghost_403 fell holding onto his on swing; reaching the middle of the tent Hyaach caught ghost_403 by his legs and helped pull him up onto the swing. They sat on the metal swing above the large netting for a long time not having nearly enough momentum to return to either platform.

Below them one the the surviving Ringmaster cronies laughed at ghost. Curious Hyaach attempted to get a look at the mysterious person but his view was obstructed by ghost_403 and could only make out a shadowy figure standing by his original platform two minutes passed and the cronie shouted for them both to come down. ghost_403 looked petrified at the thought of falling to the netting below, knowing what needed to be done Hyaach pushed him off the swing watching him fall towards the netting just before jumping him off himself arms stretched waiting for the familiar embrace of the netting.

Turning mid air Hyaach cried out as he watched ghost_403 fall into the netting which fell with him towards the hard ground below. Hyaach realized his fate falling towards him and wondered if this was ghost_403's doing or the person who had laughed but before he could get a better look he had already hit the ground.




Hyaach the Trapeze Artist and ghost_403 the Lion tamer fell to their deaths

Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 11 2012 23:08 GMT
#1771
ghost_403 the vanilla townie
This isn't what he claimed, right?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:26:57
July 11 2012 23:08 GMT
#1772
Fixed the post
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 11 2012 23:12 GMT
#1773
Kurumi, would you go for maju or grush first?

Grush's scum defense is scummy. Maju's overall behavior is scummy. I'd lynch em both, but the readable scummy player first.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 11 2012 23:22 GMT
#1774
On July 12 2012 08:12 Vivax wrote:
Kurumi, would you go for maju or grush first?

Grush's scum defense is scummy. Maju's overall behavior is scummy. I'd lynch em both, but the readable scummy player first.

I would do that, but there's big chance Grush flips scum and he's a lurker too. Having lurkers is a bad thing. Maju has a special place in my heart too...
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 11 2012 23:22 GMT
#1775
EDWOP;
Having lurkers now is a terrible thing.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 11 2012 23:27 GMT
#1776
@Vivax:

they are both kind of unreadable, one due to trolling one due to active lurking. It is pretty much a coinflip on those two.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 11 2012 23:29 GMT
#1777
EBWOP:
I would prefer a Maju lynch, grush remains grush anyway, he could just as well be town.
I'm out for now
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 11 2012 23:30 GMT
#1778
EBWOP:
if you take out the fact that grush was defended by scum and defended scum
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 11 2012 23:32 GMT
#1779
Lol, called it. Gg.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18216 Posts
July 12 2012 07:54 GMT
#1780
On July 12 2012 08:12 Vivax wrote:
Kurumi, would you go for maju or grush first?

Grush's scum defense is scummy. Maju's overall behavior is scummy. I'd lynch em both, but the readable scummy player first.


I was coming up with a long argument about 4 scenarios in which each possibility (scum/scum, town/town, scum/town, town/scum) was considered and explain why it's better to lynch the unreadable guy first, when I realized we were being stupid (not saying my scenarios didn't work out, because they did; it's just a terrible way to decide the lynch).

We should not be considering Grush and Maju together as if it's a packet lynch. We should decide which of the two is scummier and lynch the crap out of him.

My arguments above still stand: Grush is scum.

##vote grush57
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