twelve, why did you switch your fos to BKE when you seemed ready to jump on me day 2

and ve, i still think you're scum. that self-vote thing feels set up. i smell a bus

Hyaach

Singapore1737 Posts

July 05 2012 06:08 GMT

#1342

i am null on et. i was not comfortable with the lynch as i state before. the only thing i didnt get was acro on et and nsh changing vote at the last minute. but thanks for trying to misinterpret what im saying
what persuaded you nsh?

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

July 05 2012 07:31 GMT

#1343

Oh man. You went for the guy who was quite likely to be modkilled anyway?

On July 05 2012 07:18 Vivax wrote:
Mandalor, can you give me insight on this wtfpost?

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I don't understand what you wanted to do with mattchew at the time. You praise his constructive posts but think that killing him is a good idea?

yay not a day goes by I don't have to defend myself. Being suspected early is really annoying. Despite me defending wiggl3s, not jumping on either the mK or Fox bandwagon and defending neither of the scum players we know for certain, but here we go:

You misread my post. Read it again. I praised ET's constructive posts. Earlier Matt and ET looked like working together so if Matt is scum (as I suspected) that would raise some suspicion on ET.
By now I'm leaning towards Matt being a townie.

Acrofales

Spain17909 Posts

July 05 2012 08:42 GMT

#1344

Just woke up and saw the flip. I'm sorry I doubted you ET. Guess your absense was just you not playing because you wanted to be subbed out :S I'm still having problems seeing Twelve as scum. Katina comes easier because she doesn't have that giant contradiction in her night behaviour (mainly because she just plain wasn't there), but she's picked up her playing and hopefully I can get a read on her.

We also need to start thinking about the scum hiding between the inactive trolls. Adam is out of the way (yay moderators for doing our job for us), but that still leaves 4 of them. I don't usually like vigis and DTs working in the same spot, but I kinda think we need to get our lurkers out of the way. Lets shoot or check them, before we think of lynching them: Maju, Kurumi, Grush and casualman are all completely null to me and I fear they'll stay that way until lylo, because their activity has been negligible (or in the case of Kurumi, jibberish).

Other than that, I will be going over the filters I neglected.

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

July 05 2012 10:20 GMT

#1345

Everybody wake up!
There's been some odd vote switching tonight. There wasn't even anyone giving more insight on ET yet everybody switched. PLUS the fact that none of the inactives were replaced so far and a ET modkill was like 99% certain to happen.

I'll have a look at the votes when I'm back from work. I refuse to believe that so many townies were so ridiculously stupid.

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

July 05 2012 10:26 GMT

#1346

I would also like Mr. Wiggles to consider making the time for ending the votes more convenient for us euros. I think the voting ends at like 2 or 3 am for me.

Could you please consider moving the time for you day/night posts a little to make it more convenient for euros?

Vivax

21948 Posts

July 05 2012 10:33 GMT

#1347

On July 05 2012 10:51 Katina wrote:
but I'm sure we at least got two Mafia in casualman, Mandalor, and BKE if not all three.

Katina, don't you think Kurumi and VE act somewhat funny?

Vivax

21948 Posts

July 05 2012 10:35 GMT

#1348

Btw, twelve avoided Kurumi's question about what he thinks of ET. He only kept saying that he wants to lynch BKE.

Twelve

United States90 Posts

July 05 2012 10:45 GMT

#1349

I did'nt have a strong read on ET one way or the other. I switched to ET because mathematically, if I had voted for any other person, I would have been the one getting lynched.

@casualman I've been asking about you and BKE since day one, don't try and act like my play has shifted dramatically.

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

July 05 2012 10:49 GMT

#1350

On July 05 2012 10:51 Katina wrote:
It's because I actually have time now. Not because I'm scum and got scared into it. I didn't think ET and Twelve were Mafia to begin with. As I have said in my other posts I think they are town. There wasn't much I could do to stop Twelve or ET from being lynched. I have learned that once the town makes up there mind there is almost no way to convince them otherwise. I have defended Twelve, that was really all I could do. I didn't comment because I was forced to. I commented because my opinion was asked and I have nothing to hide so I gave it. Despite what other people think and whether they agree with me or not. I'm going to keep defending Twelve, and tomorrow either casualman or Mandolar should be lynched. I will also support a BKE lynch as I still think he is Mafia as well. If you remember from my pass games I do go after more than other person and change my target as the game progresses and I learn more.

So many people this game are just accusing others because they disagree or attacking their attackers. Most of the accusations aren't even related to any Mafia behavior. Derp, Derp! (I don't speak this language so I hope I didn't just call someone a nasty name, Sorry!) This whole game has basically been all based on Meta and not of what is actually going on but I'm sure we at least got two Mafia in casualman, Mandalor, and BKE if not all three.

Could you please explain your reasoning for suspecting the three of us? I would really like to know.

Vivax

21948 Posts

July 05 2012 11:03 GMT

#1351

Ok, so twelve considered his life to be more valuable than that of somebody he believed to be town.

This is arguably not pro-town, but a lot of townies might have done the same in his spot.

Katina, can you post a list of your opinions regarding all players?
Needless to say I might use it against you, it really depends on what you write there.
You don't need to give long explanations, just guess the players' alignment.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

July 05 2012 14:06 GMT

#1352

NSH you saw that right? Maju's horrible response Re: you?

I'm not crazy right, that response was insufficient?

If we have another vig, I'd really like him to consider paying Maju a visit. :/

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

July 05 2012 14:12 GMT

#1353

Hey Kat, what do you think about Maju?

Kurumi

Poland6130 Posts

July 05 2012 15:11 GMT

#1354

Everything looks as it should... Repeat? Danger. Delay not good. Interrogation was, not talked about. Is this a good planideathought? More or one?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

July 05 2012 15:21 GMT

#1355

I didn't like it either. :/

Kurumi thoughts on Maju?

Kurumi

Poland6130 Posts

July 05 2012 15:24 GMT

#1356

A bad, bad toy.

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

July 05 2012 15:37 GMT

#1357

Somebody please explain to me the reason for ET's lynch (and the final votes coming) after Mr Wiggles announced he was asking for replacement? The whole reason in my mind for the ET lynch was because he was inactive and out of character... VE were you around for all this? How about you WBG? Acro? Thoughts? Other than me using hindsight to yell at pretty much everyone, I am struggling to find a lot of people's reasons for voting ET which is strange. This all leads me to

WHY WASN'T TWELVE LYNCHED. ET WAS ABOUT TO BE REPLACED AND/OR MODKILLED. i hope we have to vig to blow his head off.

Ghost, I know your all like confirmed town and all, but can you please participate a little more

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

July 05 2012 16:19 GMT

#1358

Shoot Maju.

Lynch Vivax.

I'll just leave this here.

On July 04 2012 18:19 Vivax wrote:
Lynch twelve or katina. I think Shiao has posted enough to be estimated better once the two of them flip.

Katina ignoring so many scummy players to suspect Adam is just ridiculous. I think I've found something to Adam's defense.

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So much for Adam.

Alright. The other candidate for her and twelve is casualman. Obviously a troll and an easy target. I don't think he's mafia, but he sure could be an asset to them.

I don't care if we lynch Katina or twelve for now.

ET going silent stinks, too. He found a good reason to push a townie case cause of the kenpachi rule. No safer way for scum to cause a mislynch by promoting a policy lynch. Also, for an experienced player, he should be posting more as townie.

The proper answer to whether or not Adam is scum is "I don't know because he's been gone since Day 1", not "Bill Murray said he's scum so he must be town".

Combining this with the Bill Murray shenanigans he pulled yesterday in the thread, and I'd say this is as good a place as any to start looking for scum.

Vivax

21948 Posts

July 05 2012 16:29 GMT

#1359

You wouldn't expect a mafia to ask vigi to shoot one of them right? That's the point to Adam's defense.

Gonna post more about connections with Adam before the daypost.

Need Katina to post her list of people + believed alignment to decide if she's scum or not.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

July 05 2012 16:32 GMT

#1360

Hey NSH, you sheeped acro and then call him as a prot target. I've mostly had similar reads to you, but could you explain where your townread on him comes from?