EPTOn July 05 2012 10:39 NoSmurfHere wrote:
However the content of her contributions is pretty useless.
However the content of her contributions is pretty useless.
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
Since when have we known town Katina to have ignored 6 or 7 scummy players in the game? At the very least she will have acknowledged them or read them as scummy. She might be focused on one person but she isn't totally focused on that one person. I remember in MTG she was sort of like this. She tunneled some townie endlessly for no reason even when everyone else considered that guy just to be playing somewhat badly. Her play is a bit different here (she asked me postgame how to improve and maybe that's why) but not particularly different. If she steps up her game tomorrow then I'll gladly back off but her reads are too convenient for me to believe she is town. | ||
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Katina
United States454 Posts
On July 05 2012 10:39 NoSmurfHere wrote: like, who knows why she stepped up contribution. It could be because she's scum and got scared into it, or because she's town and she legitimately has time now. However the content of her contributions is pretty useless. She wanted to lynch casualman and her thoughts on most of my reads were this: I didn't clarify my reads on Maju/Adam but basically I lumped them together because they were two lurkers who I thought had opposite alignments. as for the first two I thought both were scum at the time. Ultimately she backed down from both ET and twelve. Understandable NOW in retrospect based on the vote switch, but honestly she didn't do any work in pushing her lynch nor did she do any work in stopping twelve'ET from being lynched. She only commented on them when she was forced to comment by other players. Pretty sure she's scum for this because as town she fights to get her lynch of choice. I recall in Emergency she tunneled Blazinghand for hours because she basically knew him to be scum. She did similar things in Liar Game with Palmar and in countless other games where I've seen her be ignored by townies yet be completely 100% correct. Here her reads are being ignored because they're bad, and she's not pushing them either. We all know she's really good as town but she's not displaying this. It's because I actually have time now. Not because I'm scum and got scared into it. I didn't think ET and Twelve were Mafia to begin with. As I have said in my other posts I think they are town. There wasn't much I could do to stop Twelve or ET from being lynched. I have learned that once the town makes up there mind there is almost no way to convince them otherwise. I have defended Twelve, that was really all I could do. I didn't comment because I was forced to. I commented because my opinion was asked and I have nothing to hide so I gave it. Despite what other people think and whether they agree with me or not. I'm going to keep defending Twelve, and tomorrow either casualman or Mandolar should be lynched. I will also support a BKE lynch as I still think he is Mafia as well. If you remember from my pass games I do go after more than other person and change my target as the game progresses and I learn more. So many people this game are just accusing others because they disagree or attacking their attackers. Most of the accusations aren't even related to any Mafia behavior. Derp, Derp! (I don't speak this language so I hope I didn't just call someone a nasty name, Sorry!) This whole game has basically been all based on Meta and not of what is actually going on but I'm sure we at least got two Mafia in casualman, Mandalor, and BKE if not all three. | ||
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Katina
United States454 Posts
On July 05 2012 10:51 NoSmurfHere wrote: yeah she's basically saying a whole bunch of stuff but then not advancing any opinions on anyone. Since when have we known town Katina to have ignored 6 or 7 scummy players in the game? At the very least she will have acknowledged them or read them as scummy. She might be focused on one person but she isn't totally focused on that one person. I remember in MTG she was sort of like this. She tunneled some townie endlessly for no reason even when everyone else considered that guy just to be playing somewhat badly. Her play is a bit different here (she asked me postgame how to improve and maybe that's why) but not particularly different. If she steps up her game tomorrow then I'll gladly back off but her reads are too convenient for me to believe she is town. How are they too convenient? I only saw one other person suspect Mandalor. People have ignored casualman since day one. The amount of pushing for BKE is meh. You want convenient how about the large number of people who want to kill Twelve and ET or me? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Katina
United States454 Posts
On July 05 2012 01:29 Katina wrote: I'm not ignoring them, I just don't think that ET or Twelve is Mafia. I admit they are scummy in some way or another but it's not strong enough to lynch them just yet. Then we have on person narrowed down and can focus elsewhere. Even useless trolls can turn out to be Mafia. I agree with VE's thoughts, yes. It was D1 and I had a town read on him and he's a good player. So of course I would be inclined to consider what he says and look at the person myself then come up with my conclusion. I semi defended BM because I wanted to see more from him. He's hard to read at first. I was expressing my thoughts in my recent post. I didn't know that posting on a lurker (along with several others that aren't lurkers was scummy.... | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 05 2012 01:41 Katina wrote: austin gets a cookie for that point against ET. I'm curious to see if ET steps up and either posts his case or explains why he hasn't presented it yet. You had him town. Then I got a cookie, and it looked like you were going to be suspicious of ET if he didn't 'splain himself. | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
If you don't explain why you have reads on the main candidates then you can't expect to actually contribute, right? Upon rereading your filter I've noticed that some of the things I've said are wrong. I don't think Mandalor is scum given that he was one of the only players Adam seriously attacked. It could have been an early distancing attempt but I find that a bit unlikely given that Adam gave some fairly strong reasoning for it. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now. Why do you think ShiaoPi is town? | ||
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casualman
United States1198 Posts
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Katina
United States454 Posts
On July 05 2012 11:10 austinmcc wrote: Right. But then You had him town. Then I got a cookie, and it looked like you were going to be suspicious of ET if he didn't 'splain himself. Yes, I suspicious of ET and waiting for him to come in and defend himself or post a read. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt since I have played with him a few times and knew how he acted. I wrote him off as town for now until I saw either his post or his defense. But when neither came and people switching their votes I was curious to the outcome. If I was truly convinced about him being Mafia I would switched my vote. | ||
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Katina
United States454 Posts
On July 05 2012 11:13 NoSmurfHere wrote: You had reads but didn't explain them. If you don't explain why you have reads on the main candidates then you can't expect to actually contribute, right? Upon rereading your filter I've noticed that some of the things I've said are wrong. I don't think Mandalor is scum given that he was one of the only players Adam seriously attacked. It could have been an early distancing attempt but I find that a bit unlikely given that Adam gave some fairly strong reasoning for it. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now. Why do you think ShiaoPi is town? Didn't say I thought he was town, didn't say I thought he was Mafia either. I have a null read on him right now. I'll look at him again. There have been other people that I have been paying more attention too this game. Like casualman, notice how he showed up right after the lynch happened and graced us with another lovely post of his. | ||
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casualman
United States1198 Posts
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Twelve
United States90 Posts
On July 05 2012 11:52 casualman wrote: vig if you would be so kind as to shoot twelve we can make a much better lynch in day 3 what happened casual? did you read my filter and realize i'm one of the few people paying attention to your posts. | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
On July 05 2012 11:52 casualman wrote: vig if you would be so kind as to shoot twelve we can make a much better lynch in day 3 why do you play this game? | ||
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
On July 05 2012 10:14 Hyaach wrote: what was this shennigan. i was here the whole time and i hane no idea why people were jumping so hard on ey lynch. he was afk thus his meta was off. i read that as a bad reason for ppl to lynch him off. gonna see the list when i get home and do some reviewing. Here the whole time! A townie would have jumped in and stopped the switch. You are going down dude. | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
e.g. ghost needs to be protected. Mafia only has 2 KP; if we can force them to double stack or kill people some of us have suspicions on then that's great. Acro, myself, ghost, Mattchew, VE would all make decent prots. If you don't have a town read on one of these players then obviously don't protect them. If unsure just protect ghost. | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On July 05 2012 10:14 Hyaach wrote: what was this shennigan. i was here the whole time and i hane no idea why people were jumping so hard on ey lynch. he was afk thus his meta was off. i read that as a bad reason for ppl to lynch him off. gonna see the list when i get home and do some reviewing. Assuming you're talking about ET why didn't you say anything like this before the lynch? You just sit around and justify yourself after events occur. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On July 04 2012 18:32 MajuGarzett wrote: I like the lynching of twelve the best right now. One of the things that stands out to me in his filter was His last previous mention of casual was + Show Spoiler + On July 02 2012 04:59 Twelve wrote: + Show Spoiler + He didn't call out casual directly. Look at the way he phrased the call out. It was a question, which means he was searching for confirmation before pushing the statement. Since the town didn't really get on casual, he jumped on my wagon. Incorrect sir, even if casualman is scum, he doesn't appear to be smart enough to really pose too much of a threat and doesn't really seem worth a day 1 lynch. Again there is no reason that anyone would vote for themselves as town, and no one has really tried to defend that vote, just make accusations against the people that notice it? I don't understand. If there is a legitmate reason town would vote for themselves, please, change my mind. He says casual isn't worth a day 1 lynch but for some unexplained reason thinks he's worth a day 2 lynch. He attacks NoSmurfHere for starting bandwagons when trying to find scum really shouldn't be suspicious at all. He also claims to have found FT scummy before he ever saw the bandwagon but never bothered to mention FT at all. As town he really shouldn't be afraid to share his reads. ##Vote: Twelve This defense of NSH is completely out of place considering your "read" of NSH up to this point. Explain. | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On July 05 2012 13:56 VisceraEyes wrote: This defense of NSH is completely out of place considering your "read" of NSH up to this point. Explain. On July 04 2012 03:24 MajuGarzett wrote: Don't really suspect him anymore. I know we're supposed to stop talking about the role pm's but its kinda hard to forget about it. If wiggles said he got a similar pm to smurf its unlikely that smurf was scum who posted that to seem more town like and randomly had another player who actually got a pm just saying role name. I just wanted to respond to this quickly, I still have to catch up a bit. | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
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