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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 04 2012 12:42 GMT
#1181
On July 04 2012 21:33 Acrofales wrote:
ShiaoPi: uncomfortable lynching him for reasons stated above.


I don't see these reasons stated above
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18399 Posts
July 04 2012 12:54 GMT
#1182
Yeah, I posted it on my SSB-game smurf and quoted it on Acro, I can see how you missed it.

On July 04 2012 08:32 kingdedede wrote:
I had a very slight town read on ShiaoPi after D1. I also don't think he fits with the others in the lurker category, he has been posting reads. I haven't analyzed his filter in a while, but I also remember him clearing some of the wifom flying around with drwiggl3s going nuts at night.

I liked Twelve for lynching after reading his filter and the cases on him. My vote's on him. I don't know why people are suddenly switching. It feels like something is being manipulated, but I don't know what. I'll think about it. Maybe while asleep shit will fall together and we can lynch scum tomorrow.


I have also since gone through his filter and find he is still contributing and trying to push his reads. I disagree with his main suspect, Hyaach, but I disagree with your main suspect too and am not trying to lynch you for it.

Am I convinced he's town? No. I just think Twelve is looking a lot worse. I also want to hear why exactly Mattchew and VE think Katina is town. I'm not seeing the meta read.

Aside: reason I don't like Hyaach for the lynch is because I have a hard time believing that scum posts a random list of suspects, but puts someone on there who is both replaced AND the replacement was shot by the very scumteam he's supposed to be a part of.

Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
July 04 2012 13:01 GMT
#1183
If you really want a case out of me. I would have to say Twelve just based on the fact that his no longer pushing for BKE without any explanation and his change of vote to FT. I actually had zero read on FT but neither did i had one on mkmk so i was not gonna waste the vote,so i changed vote. While Twelve said he had a scummy read but never explained what it was. Like just giving a reason to justify a vote.
Thailand is my new obsession
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 04 2012 13:09 GMT
#1184
I got my vote on either Katina or Twelve right now.

Katina pretty much just followed VE's thoughts on Day1, semi defended BM and now made a case of casualman who imo cannot be read and better be ignored for now.

Twelve. As MattChew pointed out earlier, he accused the two most popular lynch candidates without providing a basis for this. Just an hour after mK was modkilled and flipped green, he says how it was "a lurker lynch [he] really didn't agree with". How convenient to post that after the modkill and never mention mK before.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
July 04 2012 13:28 GMT
#1185
hi i just read up to page 26 and skimp to 41 and it just seem like a town vs town quarrel in every page with a few odd balls.

mattchew talks about meta all the time but does not seem to see the flaw in katina's meta.
twelve

and ET isnt playing to his town meta.
Grush isn't doing as much spam as he was in TL LV too.

i strongly believe we have a few (3) scum among the lurkers.
Thailand is my new obsession
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 04 2012 14:20 GMT
#1186
Okay, I'm down with a Twelve lynch. His filter doesn't read as scum, but there's so little compared with the interest that those few posts show in the game. It's like he's interested in the game but isn't posting here. I don't like it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 04 2012 14:24 GMT
#1187
Guys why aren't we lynching casualman? His filter is incredibly bad, he's not helping us find scum. I wanna lynch casualman. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 04 2012 14:40 GMT
#1188
Alright, let's go with what we've got here.

Most people agree that we should kill Twelve. There's like a couple dissenters but honestly that's a fairly good sign he's scum (particularly in that he just refuses to gain votes)

Similar story for Katina-if either died today (and flipped scum obviously) I'd be happy.

Acro, stay with me.

##unvote
##vote Twelve


I can't reconcile why grush is acting the way he's acting to a town read so the best way to approach that is to consider him scum. I can't fit his play to his normal play. He was enthusiastic at the beginning and dropped off immediately (pretty uncharacteristic of him as town). In addition he had that weird BM interaction.

Everyone seems to disagree with me on ShiaoPi, so I'm going to assume for now that I'm wrong. I'd rather not tunnel him to oblivion when there's no way he's getting lynched today. If he doesn't meet my standards then I'm going to continue to push him on later days.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 04 2012 14:46 GMT
#1189
NSH are you taking casualman's demeanor as townie aggressiveness? Or are you really against his lynch strictly by association?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 04 2012 14:49 GMT
#1190
To be honest, I'm not sure where I stand on Katina. I thought I had a town read, but I realized it might be a thing where I'm biased because she agreed with me D1. :/

ET's thoughts are missing and this is VERY troubling for me. Not to mention there's no ET vote right now, and I'm VERY concerned about that dude.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2012 14:51 GMT
#1191
Casualman is just bad. If he's scum he won't achieve nothing, if he's town he won't either.

I might have learned a rule with this game: 'town never lynches trolls and people acting like idiots, but they attract cases from scum'

That said, VE, if twelve flips red I'll come back to your last attempt to get votes on casualman instead of twelve.

Even if Shiao is scum, I'd keep him alive over scummy players giving us less information. As long as he keeps posting constantly, it should become obvious once he tries to push the mafia agenda. He is basically forced to post while knowing he's being scrutinized heavily. You call that WIFOM right?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 04 2012 14:56 GMT
#1192
Oh Vivax, you're so cute. I just said I'm fine with a Twelve lynch, and once I'm finished reading filters that's PROBABLY where my vote is gonna go. However, I like casualman as a lynch too, so frankly I don't give a shit if you think it's scummy that I'm trying to get votes on casualman - they could both be scum as far as I know.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 04 2012 15:01 GMT
#1193
Well, I'm certainly not scum, and I think its interesting you are making asuch a strong push for me now. I'll be coming up with my votes shortly. Its still confusing why anyone would defend casualman, it seems we all still agree that there is ZERO reason a townie would vote for themeselves.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 04 2012 15:03 GMT
#1194
@hyaach: wtf. You can play better than this, regardless of your alignment. Which is too bad, because I'm thinking you're town. I'd really like it if you wrote up your thoughts on Grush. You're right, he's playing a very different game than he normally does, and I'd love to see what you have to say about it.

@VE: There's no question that casualman is playing a terrible game, but I'm reading shitty town rather than scum. Scum should be trying to accomplish something with their posting, and I can't find any agenda behind what he says. It's empty. I'd do a dance if he got shot tonight, but I think right now it's a waste of a lynch.

Concerning ET, I still find him scummy due to everything I posted on him earlier. I haven't been pushing that at all since he's been completely gone from the thread. I want him to respond to what I asked him earlier before I lynch him.

@NSH: Katina's case on casualman is terrible. She's right, he is a shitty poster, and maybe her vote on him will convince him to finally put some energy into this game. Other than that, it's just bad. However, she actually has some good insight into Mandalor and Hyaach. I'm not inclined to lynch her at the moment.

I'm still trying to clear my head and figure out what's going on in this game. I think it's time to go back to the spreadsheet and see what's going on there. More thoughts in a bit.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 04 2012 15:05 GMT
#1195
The problem about ET is that he was for a BM lynch D1....but that's made worthless by the fact that he never voted for him, even when Acro and I were on him making him an actual, reasonable target.

To be honest, I feel more comfortable lynching ET than I do any of the lurkers. :/

NSH could you be convinced of an ET lynch? As into a BM lynch D1 as he APPEARED to be, that didn't seem to matter when the chips were down.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 04 2012 15:06 GMT
#1196
I am uncomfortable with twelves defense being so passive. He seems to not want to piss anyone off even when they call him scum and vote for him. This is continuing his play before he was a suspect, which means he is either actually in over his head newbie townie that just wants to help but doesnt know help, or scum who is afraid to vote and accuse townies.

I think we should be voting ET or Adam, because BOTH of them have been useless this game and this is EXTREMELY out of character for them.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 04 2012 15:08 GMT
#1197
I agree with Kitana and the causualman lynch.
##vote: casualman
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 04 2012 15:08 GMT
#1198
Yeah, Matty I'm with you bro...let's lynch ET.

##Unvote
##Vote: EchelonTee
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2012 15:09 GMT
#1199
Yeah yeah, VE. You made such a show with BM that I don't believe you are scum yet. So I'll leave it at that.
No need to get so personal again, I have feelings .

Twelve, you made a 'case' against BKE when there was a bandwagon against him and then you even suspected NSH/Bugs to be the Ringleader. Then you said NSH started the FT bandwagon while it was marv as I recall it.

You only always show up when there's someone mentioning you in a threatening way.

Then you even gave two different reasons for voting FT once people didn't buy the story with him being your RL friend:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&currentpage=42#834

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&currentpage=58#1145

I had just got a scummy read on foxtrotter out of the thread.


But you didn't post it.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 04 2012 15:10 GMT
#1200
Happy 4th of july I wont be posting again for like >24 hours
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
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