EPTOn July 04 2012 21:33 Acrofales wrote:
ShiaoPi: uncomfortable lynching him for reasons stated above.
ShiaoPi: uncomfortable lynching him for reasons stated above.
I don't see these reasons stated above
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
I don't see these reasons stated above | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17826 Posts
On July 04 2012 08:32 kingdedede wrote: I had a very slight town read on ShiaoPi after D1. I also don't think he fits with the others in the lurker category, he has been posting reads. I haven't analyzed his filter in a while, but I also remember him clearing some of the wifom flying around with drwiggl3s going nuts at night. I liked Twelve for lynching after reading his filter and the cases on him. My vote's on him. I don't know why people are suddenly switching. It feels like something is being manipulated, but I don't know what. I'll think about it. Maybe while asleep shit will fall together and we can lynch scum tomorrow. I have also since gone through his filter and find he is still contributing and trying to push his reads. I disagree with his main suspect, Hyaach, but I disagree with your main suspect too and am not trying to lynch you for it. Am I convinced he's town? No. I just think Twelve is looking a lot worse. I also want to hear why exactly Mattchew and VE think Katina is town. I'm not seeing the meta read. Aside: reason I don't like Hyaach for the lynch is because I have a hard time believing that scum posts a random list of suspects, but puts someone on there who is both replaced AND the replacement was shot by the very scumteam he's supposed to be a part of. | ||
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Hyaach
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Mandalor
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Katina pretty much just followed VE's thoughts on Day1, semi defended BM and now made a case of casualman who imo cannot be read and better be ignored for now. Twelve. As MattChew pointed out earlier, he accused the two most popular lynch candidates without providing a basis for this. Just an hour after mK was modkilled and flipped green, he says how it was "a lurker lynch [he] really didn't agree with". How convenient to post that after the modkill and never mention mK before. | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
mattchew talks about meta all the time but does not seem to see the flaw in katina's meta. twelve and ET isnt playing to his town meta. Grush isn't doing as much spam as he was in TL LV too. i strongly believe we have a few (3) scum among the lurkers. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
Most people agree that we should kill Twelve. There's like a couple dissenters but honestly that's a fairly good sign he's scum (particularly in that he just refuses to gain votes) Similar story for Katina-if either died today (and flipped scum obviously) I'd be happy. Acro, stay with me. ##unvote ##vote Twelve I can't reconcile why grush is acting the way he's acting to a town read so the best way to approach that is to consider him scum. I can't fit his play to his normal play. He was enthusiastic at the beginning and dropped off immediately (pretty uncharacteristic of him as town). In addition he had that weird BM interaction. Everyone seems to disagree with me on ShiaoPi, so I'm going to assume for now that I'm wrong. I'd rather not tunnel him to oblivion when there's no way he's getting lynched today. If he doesn't meet my standards then I'm going to continue to push him on later days. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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ET's thoughts are missing and this is VERY troubling for me. Not to mention there's no ET vote right now, and I'm VERY concerned about that dude. | ||
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Vivax
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I might have learned a rule with this game: 'town never lynches trolls and people acting like idiots, but they attract cases from scum' That said, VE, if twelve flips red I'll come back to your last attempt to get votes on casualman instead of twelve. Even if Shiao is scum, I'd keep him alive over scummy players giving us less information. As long as he keeps posting constantly, it should become obvious once he tries to push the mafia agenda. He is basically forced to post while knowing he's being scrutinized heavily. You call that WIFOM right? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Twelve
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
@VE: There's no question that casualman is playing a terrible game, but I'm reading shitty town rather than scum. Scum should be trying to accomplish something with their posting, and I can't find any agenda behind what he says. It's empty. I'd do a dance if he got shot tonight, but I think right now it's a waste of a lynch. Concerning ET, I still find him scummy due to everything I posted on him earlier. I haven't been pushing that at all since he's been completely gone from the thread. I want him to respond to what I asked him earlier before I lynch him. @NSH: Katina's case on casualman is terrible. She's right, he is a shitty poster, and maybe her vote on him will convince him to finally put some energy into this game. Other than that, it's just bad. However, she actually has some good insight into Mandalor and Hyaach. I'm not inclined to lynch her at the moment. I'm still trying to clear my head and figure out what's going on in this game. I think it's time to go back to the spreadsheet and see what's going on there. More thoughts in a bit. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
To be honest, I feel more comfortable lynching ET than I do any of the lurkers. :/ NSH could you be convinced of an ET lynch? As into a BM lynch D1 as he APPEARED to be, that didn't seem to matter when the chips were down. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
I think we should be voting ET or Adam, because BOTH of them have been useless this game and this is EXTREMELY out of character for them. | ||
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Twelve
United States90 Posts
##vote: casualman | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: EchelonTee | ||
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Vivax
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No need to get so personal again, I have feelings  .Twelve, you made a 'case' against BKE when there was a bandwagon against him and then you even suspected NSH/Bugs to be the Ringleader. Then you said NSH started the FT bandwagon while it was marv as I recall it. You only always show up when there's someone mentioning you in a threatening way. Then you even gave two different reasons for voting FT once people didn't buy the story with him being your RL friend: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514¤tpage=42#834 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514¤tpage=58#1145 I had just got a scummy read on foxtrotter out of the thread. But you didn't post it. | ||
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Mattchew
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