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Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 04 2012 03:59 GMT
#1161
I think that its important to note that a strong scum lynch is worth way more then a strong information lynch at this point, bringing the mafia KP down one
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
July 04 2012 04:26 GMT
#1162
@Kat look at casualman's TL posting (click profile, then the number) in general, he's a troll. You're not really breaking his behavior down like your town meta usually suggests. Trying to drive a townie lynch EH?
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
July 04 2012 04:28 GMT
#1163
On July 04 2012 12:59 Twelve wrote:
I think that its important to note that a strong scum lynch is worth way more then a strong information lynch at this point, bringing the mafia KP down one


Who are you suggesting is the strong scum lynch and the current info lynch?
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Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 04 2012 06:15 GMT
#1164
I'm still thinking on this. I think casualman probably still our most likely scum lynch. I'll get back to you tomorrow morning on the info lynch.
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 04 2012 06:40 GMT
#1165
Given the type of players who seem interested in a casualman lynch, I'd be willing to bet he's town.

Sure, he posts like a five year old, but even bad players can roll town. Twelve and Katina seem particularly interested in killing him, as people were interested in killing the lurking townies yesterday.

My strongest reads are still Shiaopi, Katina, and Twelve, but none of these lynches interest anyone (probably because no one gives a fuck, as usual in the larger games)
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
July 04 2012 07:05 GMT
#1166
On July 04 2012 15:15 Twelve wrote:
I'm still thinking on this. I think casualman probably still our most likely scum lynch. I'll get back to you tomorrow morning on the info lynch.


No way you have enough info to lynch casual over anyone else, he is a troll and thus unreadable in the scope of insanity. Unless you post a good case about either of yoru canidates I'm going to vote for you in the morning.
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Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 04 2012 07:34 GMT
#1167
@Katina:
I said mattchew's analysis of me and him putting words in my mouth
reeks of scum
. I said
you are my die-list
.
I don't know what else you expected me to say. But you are right in one point. I don't have the balls to call him out by doing a huge case AND I don't want to. Matt has posted some constructive analysis. If he's scum, he's playing very very well. If he's a townie, he's still a pretty decent player. I just don't agree with a lot of his analyses.

Saying matt's list isn't all-town is a derpy thing to say? wat? It isn't. He had BM on his list.

I guess it makes sense to not account for my old games, but it simply isn't true that I played inactive. In 1 of the 2 games I played as mafia, I was a very loud player. The other time I was rather quiet, that's true. Third game as town I got killed on night 1 or 2 because I was trying to oranise town. So yeah, I don't know what you read, but I sure wasn't inactive.

I gave reasons for why I thought BKE was scum. Matt was of the opinion that I didn't as well. Tbh I don't think so anymore, but I gave my reasons. No idea why both of you feel like I didn't.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18309 Posts
July 04 2012 08:39 GMT
#1168
Still trying to fit puzzle pieces together. For now just some questions.

Twelve: so who DO you want to lynch? What do you think of Bugs now that you didn't get shot by him?

Mandalor: same question. I see a lot of defensive talking about yourself and explaining your actions. Talk about other people in this game. Who do you want to lynch?

Maju, Adam, Grush, casualman: where the hell are you?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18309 Posts
July 04 2012 08:41 GMT
#1169
On July 04 2012 12:09 Mattchew wrote:
I completely forgot adam was in this game, I have NEVER seen him play like this before. He is ALWAYS helpful, active and extremely townie as town

Funny. I thought you were in Holy Roman. That was the only game I played together with Adam and he played exactly the same there until he got dayvig'd in the face on D2. If we have a dayvig I think doing the same this game is a good idea.
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
July 04 2012 08:51 GMT
#1170
Is kurumi that bad at mafia normally

If not then she's scum
GuMiho <3
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 09:13 GMT
#1171
On July 04 2012 17:51 casualman wrote:
Is kurumi that bad at mafia normally

If not then she's scum

You calling anyone's play bad is rather odd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22372 Posts
July 04 2012 09:19 GMT
#1172
Lynch twelve or katina. I think Shiao has posted enough to be estimated better once the two of them flip.

Katina ignoring so many scummy players to suspect Adam is just ridiculous. I think I've found something to Adam's defense.

On July 01 2012 16:11 Bill Murray wrote:
vig shoot Adam first
because he asked you to shoot
broke the golden rule


So much for Adam.

Alright. The other candidate for her and twelve is casualman. Obviously a troll and an easy target. I don't think he's mafia, but he sure could be an asset to them.

I don't care if we lynch Katina or twelve for now.

ET going silent stinks, too. He found a good reason to push a townie case cause of the kenpachi rule. No safer way for scum to cause a mislynch by promoting a policy lynch. Also, for an experienced player, he should be posting more as townie.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 09:32 GMT
#1173
I like the lynching of twelve the best right now. One of the things that stands out to me in his filter was

On July 04 2012 15:15 Twelve wrote:
I'm still thinking on this. I think casualman probably still our most likely scum lynch. I'll get back to you tomorrow morning on the info lynch.


His last previous mention of casual was

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 02 2012 04:59 Twelve wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
He didn't call out casual directly. Look at the way he phrased the call out. It was a question, which means he was searching for confirmation before pushing the statement. Since the town didn't really get on casual, he jumped on my wagon.



Incorrect sir, even if casualman is scum, he doesn't appear to be smart enough to really pose too much of a threat and doesn't really seem worth a day 1 lynch. Again there is no reason that anyone would vote for themselves as town, and no one has really tried to defend that vote, just make accusations against the people that notice it? I don't understand. If there is a legitmate reason town would vote for themselves, please, change my mind.

He says casual isn't worth a day 1 lynch but for some unexplained reason thinks he's worth a day 2 lynch.

He attacks NoSmurfHere for starting bandwagons when trying to find scum really shouldn't be suspicious at all.
He also claims to have found FT scummy before he ever saw the bandwagon but never bothered to mention FT at all. As town he really shouldn't be afraid to share his reads.

##Vote: Twelve
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 09:32 GMT
#1174
Also casual is a shitty target for a lynch so I didn't like that about twelve either.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 04 2012 09:59 GMT
#1175
On July 04 2012 17:39 Acrofales wrote:
Mandalor: same question. I see a lot of defensive talking about yourself and explaining your actions. Talk about other people in this game. Who do you want to lynch?


I did. I fucked up pretty badly with ghost. I'll be making my mind up today.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 04 2012 10:18 GMT
#1176
Dropping by before going out.

@NSH:
I'll explain my vote on hyaach again. I used the term "aggressive" on BM as in he is throwing around suspicions wildly with not much more than a hunch.
Now to hyaach's aggression, I was only asking him on his opinions/reads and he responds with a straight out "no, don't like you" and when other people also ask him he goes "why should I share a case?". It is just unfathomable to me why he does not want to share with town.
I also defended vivax since I know from experience that he might be an "easy" mislynch (did that already), so at least to me there is enough reason to defend him.

@Katina/Twelve:

Why do you want to lynch the useless troll? Won't give us anything besides flipping a coin on alignment.
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
July 04 2012 10:30 GMT
#1177
actually no one asked me but you and i don't like you.
Thailand is my new obsession
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 04 2012 12:33 GMT
#1178
Hyaach:

make a case. Do something. The concern is legitimate and you've been so far utterly useless. You don't have the excuse of "it's day 1 anymore" (although that excuse was always bullshit anyway)

we need thoughts IMMEDIATELY because the deadline is coming pretty quickly and no one wants to do anything. We've basically wasted 24+ hours.

The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18309 Posts
July 04 2012 12:33 GMT
#1179
Okay, I've been looking over the veterans in this game and the whole Bugs <> VE thing is shitting up both their filters. I know that they did the same crap in the MTG mini and both flipped town, but it would be really easy for either of them to pull the exact same stunt if they're scum. However, if I look past their hissyfit, they both seem to be participating and giving their reads freely. Also, while either could be bussing BM, I see no reason why VE would be so adamant about it, or Bugs use his moment of authority to direct the vig onto a scumbuddy he hadn't really voiced any suspicions about earlier.

That is what has been bugging me since yesterday and I still can't make sense of it, so I'll just let that ugly tangle lie there and ignore it for now.

We currently have like 5 lynching candidates with votes on them (ignoring the outliers who have so far not gained traction):

Twelve: scum. I have my vote on him. I suggest you do the same.
ShiaoPi: uncomfortable lynching him for reasons stated above.
Katina:
grouped with ET for highest probable veteran to be scum. I actually think her case on Mandalor has merit. But her best read is on a lurker, which is kind of a cop-out for a veteran. She was under pressure, came in and made a complete throwaway case on casualman, is not pushing the case and has probably gone off to lalaland again. If someone with a better metaread can point me in the right direction I will sheep.

So far Mattchew and VE have town reads and Bugs and ghost have a scum read from meta. I was leaning scum based on the meta. Mattchew shot that down without explaining. Still waiting to hear why Katina is playing to her town meta from people with more playtime with her (particularly from Mattchew) before deciding on her. It seems clear that we're not going to get anything useful out of her today.

Vivax: still unsure on what the hell he is. Uncomfortable with lynching him at the moment
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 04 2012 12:34 GMT
#1180
I am furious about the fact no one has dealt with our problem yet. I might use my pin on you instead of my husband. Many detectives have said that we should wait and I think enough is enough. Hopefully, we'll have some frontier justice.
Someone is forgetting the afk poisoner fiasco.


The real shocker for you, my associates is that our number in the team has been suspicious of us and then has done nothing to further it. His explanation why he decided our codename detective is a good target sounds the worst ever. The only interesting thing I've found in his work is mention of the blue guy surviving N1. As for the blue guy himself, I am only suspicious of people following his cases for no reason.


There's that car brand guy who is overly aggressive, does not look like a friendly colleague. He is also chanting that he knows the real identity of two detectives... without a reason. He admits he slacks off. Overly defensive. Not much of content, mostly has spoken short lines. Admits his sloth and is angry that he was picked as a interrogation target.
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