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Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 08:53 GMT
#701
On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?


I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter.
Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games.

Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5250 Posts
July 02 2012 08:53 GMT
#702
On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?

You are making weird assumptions about people's alignments. I don't know how you can assume bke is scum, or that all of Mattchew's list is town. Your assurance is just... weird.

Are you a smurf or just weirdly confident in your own reads?

Adam, wtfafkbbq
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5250 Posts
July 02 2012 08:53 GMT
#703
On July 02 2012 17:53 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?


I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter.
Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games.

Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before.

....marv started the lynch on Foxtrotter. Are you guys confused with names or not keeping up with the game?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
kingdedede
Profile Joined June 2012
Kazakhstan80 Posts
July 02 2012 08:55 GMT
#704
On July 02 2012 17:47 drwiggl3s wrote:
If you want the most information out of a lynch. Then when the sun rises tomorrow - we kill Mattchew.

If he's scum, everyone on that list is town. And we have 5 (6th person would have been foxtrott) people who can be labelled confirm town for the rest of the game.

Even if Mattchew is scum you're horribly wrong. Want to see how pro Mattchew is at bussing his teammates? Go look at holy roman. Every single one of his lynch targets was scum with him.
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
July 02 2012 08:55 GMT
#705
Yes there was alot that happened in D1. If I ignored it in my posts it's because I attributed it to people pointing fingers trying to leech votes off those who were more scummy and had the votes to begin with.

And yes mkmkmk was in the lead but that was only at vote count. Prior to one of the vote counts someone mentioned it was 7/7/7 (mkmkmk, bkexe, foxtrott). Leaving it as anyone's game to determine who would be lynched. And if one of those 3 are Mafia, than that's something to spur some last minute vote changes and bandwagoning.

I'd like to lynch whoever will give us the most information next. If you disagree with this, or see someone as SOOO scummy that it would be more beneficial to lynch them, than please feel free to try to dissuade me.
hi
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5250 Posts
July 02 2012 08:56 GMT
#706
He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch;

Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch. It's impossible that every person on the Foxtrotter lynch is scum, so the only conclusion you're coming to is that all townies on his lynch are stupid and bad.

I'm sure post-game we're going to get a licking for the mass switch, but to keep on harping on and on about how "you guys are terrible, lol lol lol" is helping nothing and is just strange coming from people not at the forefront of discussion.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5250 Posts
July 02 2012 08:57 GMT
#707
On July 02 2012 17:47 drwiggl3s wrote:
If you want the most information out of a lynch. Then when the sun rises tomorrow - we kill Mattchew.

If he's scum, everyone on that list is town. And we have 5 (6th person would have been foxtrott) people who can be labelled confirm town for the rest of the game.

Officially on the ignore list. Your logic is terrible.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 08:58 GMT
#708
On July 02 2012 17:53 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:53 Mandalor wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?


I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter.
Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games.

Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before.

....marv started the lynch on Foxtrotter. Are you guys confused with names or not keeping up with the game?


Yeah he started it, but Matt just put him on "his list", giving no reasons. I know I'm town and I think drwiggl3s is as well. We know Foxtrotter is so that's 3 people on his list I consider town for myself.
Marv starting it is fishy. But he didn't play a big role in actually enforcing the lynch. I think people just blindly followed you and matt.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 08:59 GMT
#709
On July 02 2012 17:56 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch;

Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch.


Please point me to that post, must've missed it.
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
July 02 2012 08:59 GMT
#710
On July 02 2012 17:55 kingdedede wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:47 drwiggl3s wrote:
If you want the most information out of a lynch. Then when the sun rises tomorrow - we kill Mattchew.

If he's scum, everyone on that list is town. And we have 5 (6th person would have been foxtrott) people who can be labelled confirm town for the rest of the game.

Even if Mattchew is scum you're horribly wrong. Want to see how pro Mattchew is at bussing his teammates? Go look at holy roman. Every single one of his lynch targets was scum with him.


I don't believe in taking peoples past actions and using them as some sort of meta in this game. Chances are if he made mistakes in previous games, he'd correct them in this one. If he made good memorable plays in other games, he'd use them to trick people into believing him this game.

There's 26 people left in this game. If we can't lynch a red (we can't.. he's gotta be a half lurker at this point), we lynch who gives us the most information.
hi
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5250 Posts
July 02 2012 09:03 GMT
#711
On July 02 2012 17:59 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:56 EchelonTee wrote:
He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch;

Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch.


Please point me to that post, must've missed it.

lol didn't read...
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5250 Posts
July 02 2012 09:06 GMT
#712
I'm going to sleep. This feels even worse than TL LV because at least then there were a number of committed, rational individuals trying to push the game forward. Atm there just seems to be a crossfire of mudslinging and arguing with brick walls, while scum slink by. Meh.

I realize that I'm implying you two are stupid with my implicit posts, but at least you're fn posting. All I can conclude from many other players is that they are scum lurking or simply don't care about the game at all.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
July 02 2012 09:06 GMT
#713
The "clearly stated reason" was that he posted late. Was sorry for lack of posting. And that his reason for voting mkmkmk was weak (he quoted mkmkmk's post). Did you hear that last bit? His reason to vote mkmkmk was weak. Do you see how hilarious that is? Let me remind you that many of the people who were pushing for Foxtrott to be lynched also so easily voted for mkmkmk earlier.

@ ET. Can you please add something constructive to our discussion here?
hi
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 09:08 GMT
#714
On July 02 2012 18:03 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:59 Mandalor wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:56 EchelonTee wrote:
He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch;

Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch.


Please point me to that post, must've missed it.

lol didn't read...


I just reread the last few pages and it was indeed matt who started this:
On July 02 2012 04:18 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 03:40 Foxtrotter wrote:
Sorry i haven't posted yet ladies and gentles was a little busy and had to catch up.
I've read through the thread and my opinion is that everything mK has done (or lack of) up to this point seems scummy.
The fact that he has not defended him self is extremely unsettling to me. (I hope that nothing personal has happened.)


With his comment of however,

On June 30 2012 10:12 mKmKmK wrote:
On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I am a Role Name.

how quaint.

vague post is vague...



I am pretty comfortable voting for him on D1.

##vote mK

You can add yourself as number 6 on my list to die.
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
July 02 2012 09:11 GMT
#715
^

If your town, please post and discuss this with us. Else this is just going to be washed out by all the Mafia's random finger pointing / speculating / useless crap posts.
hi
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5250 Posts
July 02 2012 09:11 GMT
#716
FT wasn't going to be lynched without marv's insistence. If you want to call mattchew scum, find reasons that don't involve FT because the connection isn't strong enough.

"FT's vote on MK was weak". You guys make it seem like this is a phony reason. This exact reason in action in another game:
On February 19 2012 05:50 TKHawkins wrote:
##Vote: EchelonTee

He rides the coat tails of other people's thoughts
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 18 2012 09:54 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 09:51 MidnightGladius wrote:
Finally some excitement! Or are you just going to run some of that point-by-point analysis with the red numbers?


you're hilarious.


DoYouHas, I'm soft defending gumshoe now. I guess you were writing up your post without seeing the updates. We have the same thoughts though. Let's lynch MidnightGladius. Or DimmuKloK

no seriously, I gtg. I love the activity though, so refreshing



He then jumps along with jaj22's post and votes for Midnight. He would not be on my radar if it wasn't for that. I can't see a strong reason for the MidnightGladius vote especially with both the people voting for him not backing up their vote once it's questioned.

TKHawkins votes me for really weak reason; guess what he was scum. Is it a legendary auto heuristic that catches scum 24/7? No, but it's a legitimate reason.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
July 02 2012 09:13 GMT
#717
Please read my above post. FT said mkmkmk was a comfortable vote to make. Many people also voted mkmkmk for the same reasons. Yet these same people all happily bandwagoned onto FT for making the same sort of vote that they placed earlier.
hi
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5250 Posts
July 02 2012 09:14 GMT
#718
On July 02 2012 18:11 drwiggl3s wrote:
If your town, please post and discuss this with us. Else this is just going to be washed out by all the Mafia's random finger pointing / speculating / useless crap posts.

^ Please do.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
July 02 2012 09:15 GMT
#719
Whether or not Mattchew is scum is up for interpretation. But one thing that isn't, is that if we lynch him, and he turns as scum, then that will net us the most information. More then any other lynch that could be made right now.
hi
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5250 Posts
July 02 2012 09:15 GMT
#720
Drwiggl3s, I read all of your posts; we simply have disagreements in logic.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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