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Acrofales
Spain17918 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:57 Vivax wrote: Ok, kingdede. Why don't you keep pushing your BM policy lynch like day 1? You seem to have a lot of backup from people like VE. I'm still hoping someone will shoot BM tonight. Otherwise I will be very happy with a BM lynch tomorrow too! | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:06 EchelonTee wrote: I'm going to sleep. This feels even worse than TL LV because at least then there were a number of committed, rational individuals trying to push the game forward. Atm there just seems to be a crossfire of mudslinging and arguing with brick walls, while scum slink by. Meh. I realize that I'm implying you two are stupid with my implicit posts, but at least you're fn posting. All I can conclude from many other players is that they are scum lurking or simply don't care about the game at all. Yuh, I remember you making a disparaging reference to LV earlier, and I thought LV was actually a pretty high standard game for a Normal, you do it a disservice. At the moment I just cannot fathom the logic behind drwiggles' posts. Everything is 'for information' with absolutely enormous leaps of logic on who is town and scum. drwiggles - why don't you tell us two people who you think has played most scummily so far, with reasons attached for both? Vivax - roflofloflofloflofloflofl is what I have to say to you. | ||
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Vivax
21951 Posts
On July 02 2012 08:19 marvellosity wrote: Vivax, you clearly don't understand where I'm coming from them. It's a mindset thing. It's not the fact he's (Foxtrotter) lurking, it's the tone of his post and how he puts it across. Where do you come from then, where they teach you to make such bad subjective reads? | ||
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drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
1) it is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY in a 27 player game that players are going to be pointing fingers at each other, simply statistically, on day 1. 2) Pointing fingers is only bad if it's not backed up by good reasons. I say this for your sake, please try harder. I want a lot more than a bad one sentence explanation for your suspicions. Vivax - policy ignoring you now for being stupid. kthxbye | ||
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drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:58 Acrofales wrote: Was talking to wiggl3s, but your answer is fine. Hadn't thought of that. It sounds like a hell of a lot of effort (and risk) to put into getting an extra townie killed. At least it's plausible tho. Now, other than the late addition of a townie to Mattchew's list of death, mind making a case that isn't connection-based with BKE until we, you know, flip BKE as scum? Yeah it's a risky move, but one potentially worth taking in matt's position. mK could be scum tho, I don't know. I just wanted to point out a possible reason to defend mK as mafia even if he's town. Mattchew lives off his reputation and most of town seems to buy it. I will try to make a good post for my case on Matt after the night. I also wanna hear his reason for the fox addition to his list. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On July 02 2012 19:12 drwiggl3s wrote: Bad one sentence explanation? I spent the last two pages explaining quite clearly my thoughts and reasons as to why Mattchew would be the most beneficial lynch right now. Go back and read them if you need any extra explanation, as I'm positive it was all covered there. basically i can see it's lynching for information. which is a god awful reason to lynch someone. | ||
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Vivax
21951 Posts
On July 02 2012 08:37 marvellosity wrote: Vivax, again you're not getting it. On July 02 2012 08:41 marvellosity wrote: Please learn to read properly before asking questions. On July 02 2012 09:16 marvellosity wrote: Vivax, how about we don't try to draw connections before anyone's even flipped, eh? Your premises are terrible anyway. On July 02 2012 19:01 marvellosity wrote: Vivax - roflofloflofloflofloflofl is what I have to say to you. On July 02 2012 19:10 marvellosity wrote: Vivax - policy ignoring you now for being stupid. kthxbye The guy marv pushed turned out to be a mislynched lurker. Note: Designed for town and the vigi. Gonna repost if it gets buried under misleading posts. | ||
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drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
On July 02 2012 19:18 marvellosity wrote: basically i can see it's lynching for information. which is a god awful reason to lynch someone. Really? Worse then lynching someone for being a slight lurker? Do you know how to play this game? You killed a townie last night my friend. I suggest you spend more time thinking about your posts. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
I'll come back to the thread when someone productive is around. Toodles. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
@Acrofales: Your case on Vivax does have merit, but sadly I would say that he is town. I played with him two newbie games, one in which he was scum and one in which he was town. His play here is pretty much a "logical" fit of his townplay. (look at NMM XV, where I more or less led his mislynch). his scum play is much more cautious and lurky than what he is doing right now (NMM XVI for reference). I am by no means happy about his playstyle but it looks town. @Mandalor: I actually think we should wait for the nighthit and some discussion before agreeing on a lynch for d2. It gives more information we can work on. And I do not like the idea of flipping yet another coin with a lurker lynch (which is most of Mattchews list). @drwiggles: You are making no sense at all. Seriously what the hell have you been doing the whole day cycle? You had only 3 posts, which accumalte to zero content and a badly explained vote on the bandwagon that was at the time on BKE. Now come night you just burst in and throw suspicion on the people who have contributed. If you disliked the lynch on fox why didn't you say so and actively tried to prevent it? Oh wait, you were actively lurking.... Also your fixation on lynching mattchew for "information" is really unsettling, goal of the game is to lynch scum... There are a lot of logical gaps in your posts and the whole matter of coming in after the lynch and just gunning for someone is something I really dislike. FoS: drwiggl3s @casualman On July 02 2012 18:38 casualman wrote: I propose no talking during the night Like seriously? Stop trolling and do something for a change. @Vivax: I do not agree on your read on marv, sure he led a mislynch, but being wrong is no scumtrait. Also the way it unfolded marv looked really town just go and check his filter. | ||
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drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
Also you say you don't like me gunning for someone right after a lynch. Did you not read Mattchew's first post after the lynch? He says Foxtrott deserved the be lynch anyway (as a semi-sorry lurker? what?) and immediately pointed a finger at twelve (how on earth is twelve scum?). | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
Now onto mattchew. His list generated discussion for town, which is good and also neatly piled up all the "scummy lurkers", which was a good thing. Why are you so intent on lynching for information? Mattchews line about "deserving" I interpreted as simply one lurker down, if he had been interested in this game he might have defended himself? A mislynch on a townie is bad but foxtrot did nothing that helped town, so it is kind of "deserving" as anti-town play is especially play we want to make out and eliminate, so to me there is nothing wrong with that quote. Your conclusion that if mattchew dies all ppl on the list are town is just wrong. Bussing has always happened and will always continue to happen. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
On July 02 2012 19:44 Hyaach wrote: hi guys catching up on thread. seems FT lynch didnt turn out so well. Why did you ninjavote him? | ||
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Vivax
21951 Posts
On July 02 2012 19:39 ShiaoPi wrote: @Vivax: I do not agree on your read on marv, sure he led a mislynch, but being wrong is no scumtrait. Also the way it unfolded marv looked really town just go and check his filter. 'Being wrong is no scumtrait'. What kind of generalization is that. There were no good objective reasons to kill foxtrotter, and I kept asking marv about his reasons. He wasn't just wrong with his bad 'read', he also openly refused to justify his case by insulting me whenever I asked him something. And I'm writing this to town players, not to ShiaoPi. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
On July 02 2012 19:50 Vivax wrote: 'Being wrong is no scumtrait'. What kind of generalization is that. There were no good objective reasons to kill foxtrotter, and I kept asking marv about his reasons. He wasn't just wrong with his bad 'read', he also openly refused to justify his case by insulting me whenever I asked him something. And I'm writing this to town players, not to ShiaoPi. It is a generalization, which I learned by myself for being wrong (remember heist in NMM XVI?). Read this: On July 02 2012 07:42 marvellosity wrote: Because I love myself so much, I'm quoting myself. Can we make a Foxtrotter lynch happen? The post really screams newbie scum MO all over it. Apologising for absence, and then the excuses for voting mkmkmk - calls him a lurker basically "everything mK has done (or lack of)" despite doing even less himself. Then posts a random post of mk's like this is damning evidence. Everything about it feels like it's a scumbie who feels they have to post and doing so by appearing to try to contribute. But the whole post is actually devoid of anything. ##Vote: Foxtrotter And tell me that is "no reason" to lynch somebody, and if you cba to read marv, I'll put it shortly: -lurking -calling out a lurker and voting him, while doing nothing else himself -simple sheeping | ||
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drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
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