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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:06 GMT
#761
Any possible lynch besides BKE was pretty much based on scummy lurker behaviour...
All of you claiming the lynch on foxtrotter was that bad, why didn't you show some more activity to prevent it them?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:07 GMT
#762
On July 02 2012 20:04 Hyaach wrote:
I wanted BKE to contribute before i slept. When i came back, it was 7.30 am i had to rush off. I glanced the thread and saw people i have town read on are actually wishy washy about BKE lynch. My vote on mKmK was a pressure vote and there was zero response. So i took the best way out, lynch the next proposed target.


okay, now that you have caught up on the thread what are your scumreads?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
July 02 2012 11:07 GMT
#763
On July 02 2012 19:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
And tell me that is "no reason" to lynch somebody, and if you cba to read marv, I'll put it shortly:
-lurking
-calling out a lurker and voting him, while doing nothing else himself
-simple sheeping


The point is, marv said that these weren't the reasons. His final resons were FT's 'mindset' and 'intentions'.

I already asked marv why he didn't target others who fulfilled the above criteria (lurking etc.), and instead got a bandwagon up on a specific one of them. I also mentioned grush as one of them.

Instead of explaining why he picked FT over others, he said that these weren't his reasons for picking him and justified it with his gut feeling.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 11:09 GMT
#764
ShiaoPi - I strongly recommend you stop conversing with Vivax.

If he is unable to read the thread, then there isn't a lot of point.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 02 2012 11:11 GMT
#765
Someone should shoot mKmKmK tonight.

A lot of players look pretty terrible actually
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:11 GMT
#766
@Vivax:

Please please improve your reading comprehension

@marv:

One at least has to try
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
July 02 2012 11:12 GMT
#767
Don't even know why I reply to someone who I believe to be scum.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:14 GMT
#768
On July 02 2012 20:12 Vivax wrote:
Don't even know why I reply to someone who I believe to be scum.


Go ahead and make your case then
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
July 02 2012 11:15 GMT
#769
to you? no thanks.
Thailand is my new obsession
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:21 GMT
#770
Well I was just asking you to contribute a bit hyaach...you do look bad you know?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 11:24 GMT
#771
The story of the puppy Vivax

There was once a cute little puppy called Vivax. And he lived with his kind and benevolent owner, Mr. marvellosity. One fine summer's day, marvellosity had invited over some friends over for a light lunch with champagne and strawberries. But the cute little puppy Vivax was barking and running around annoying all the guests.

"What is wrong with him?" ShiaoPi asked, concerned.

"He wants another biscuit," answered marvellosity. "But if I were to give him another, he would get indigestion. I try to explain to the poor pup, but alas he does not understand as he is only a puppy."

"That is a shame," nodded Acrofales, knowingly.

Vivax the puppy was getting more and more wound up as he barked at people and no-one would listen. Why could he not have another biscuit? What kind of unnatural cruelty was denying him one of the great pleasures of puppy life? It seems he had forgotten that he had already had a biscuit, the poor pup.

Eventually the little pup lost the plot, and with his little tail and ears flying, charged at his loving owner, marvellosity, barking and yelping, paws racing. marvellosity merely smiled, and put his finger against poor pup Vivax's forehead, watching him running on the spot to no avail. Eventually marvellosity picked poor pup Vivax up by the scruff of his neck, and put him in his cage. Hopefully the pup would be calmer after he slept a little.

The End
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:26 GMT
#772
I guess it is totally off-topic but great little tale there marv, I actually laughed out loud :D
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
July 02 2012 11:43 GMT
#773
Yeah, it's a super cool story.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 02 2012 12:00 GMT
#774
On July 02 2012 07:54 marvellosity wrote:
of course, i'm starting a lynch on some random person instead of bandwagoning. Read and vote with me.


On July 02 2012 09:39 ghost_403 wrote:
MATTCHEW DON'T LEAVE ME

Who we voting for.


On July 02 2012 09:44 ghost_403 wrote:
Fine. If you guys won't tell me who to vote for, I'll vote for the guy in the lead.

##vote:foxtrotter

hmph.



On July 02 2012 09:33 Twelve wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Foxtrotter


I shall leave this here for you to think about it.
You are terrible, terrible detectives.
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Foxtrotter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States6 Posts
July 02 2012 12:01 GMT
#775
Final Post

Well that sucked!

Sorry I was not at home to defend my self once the votes starting swinging.

I hope everyone has a good game!


(...and hey! Why am I the one who is cleaning up shit?!)

umore!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 12:01 GMT
#776
Kurumi, you are misrepresenting my post in isolation a little bit there, my dear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 12:01 GMT
#777
gg Foxtrotter, sorry for keeeeling you :x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
July 02 2012 12:03 GMT
#778
On July 02 2012 21:01 marvellosity wrote:
Kurumi, you are misrepresenting my post in isolation a little bit there, my dear.


How about you comment on the other two.

They are valid lynch candidates for me. Count me in.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 12:05 GMT
#779
Twelve's last minute vote is indeed odd, especially as he'd actually made posts with content beforehand. I'd like to hear his explanation.

ghost was probably just being lazy. He promised us a 'full report', so let's see what we get from that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 02 2012 13:18 GMT
#780
Reposting this, because the only comment I got on it was from marv after telling him to go look at it. Currently digesting drwiggl3s activity overnight, and may update this or scrap the campaign.

On July 02 2012 07:46 austinmcc wrote:
My vote is currently on mK. However, for anyone uncomfortable with their current lynch candidate, I'd suggest taking a look at drwiggl3s. Seriously.

The Good Doctor's filter is the following:

(1)
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 12:14 drwiggl3s wrote:
Hi all. First game + first post playing mafia so bare with me.

On June 30 2012 11:28 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I'm not kidding, my role PM is like "you're a Role Name.".

Let's kill this guy:

On June 30 2012 10:12 mKmKmK wrote:
On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I am a Role Name.

how quaint.

vague post is vague...


##vote mKmKmK


My role PM also said I'm a "Role Name". So NoSmurfHere is definitely town in my books.
As has been mentioned, the OP had the "role name" bit, and we can assume if scum got a VT fakeclaim it had the same text. Role name wasn't indicative of mK's alignment, not indicative of the Good Doctor's alignment either.

(2)
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On June 30 2012 18:06 drwiggl3s wrote:
##Vote BroodKingEXE

The ol' ninja vote BKE.

(3)
Nine hours later
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 05:13 drwiggl3s wrote:
Ok since some people asked, here's what I'm thinking.

I agree that BKEXE's initial posts were a tad scummy. But what gave it away to me was that after casualman voted for him, both Mattchew and BKEXE immediately returned the favour and voted for casualman to be lynched. Both without any explanation other than saying "Wtf is this". And then later, both went MIA for quite a while instead of explaining their votes or trying to defend BKEXE.

You may ask why would casualman throw his vote at BKEXE so early. It could be he is either just noob, or it could be he read BKEXE as scum (like many people are now) but just before a lot of people had the chance to.

As for other players: I find many people are soft defending BKEXE and in their posts trying to put suspicion onto others (with little reason). I see these as scummy moves.






Stop and read that third post. Please. The only post of any substance. The Good Doctor thought BKE looked scummy, but didn't mention that and didn't vote for BKE. However, after CASUALMAN of all people voted for BKE, BKE and Mattchew voted for casualman with little explanation. This makes BKE scum in drwiggl3s head.

Here is how casualman voted, by the way:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 14:23 casualman wrote:
I love to bandwagon. Being a newb, I can read nothing from these posts and will blindly trust in authority figures. Woohoo!

##Vote BroodKingEXE
Either casualman is trolling and trolling hard, or casualman just dropped a vote that legitimately should make every go "Wtf is this?" That's a legitimate response to casualman's comment and vote. BKE's wtf is this vote for casualman is the tipping point that makes drwiggl3s read BKE as scummy and vote him, which is a terrible reason given casualman's post and vote.

I don't necessarily read casualman as scummy yet, but drwiggl3s also drops a little explanation for why casualman dropped his stupid post.
Show nested quote +

You may ask why would casualman throw his vote at BKEXE so early. It could be he is either just noob, or it could be he read BKEXE as scum (like many people are now) but just before a lot of people had the chance to.
What is this? Seriously. What is this? Everyone reads casulman's post as trolling or stupidity, and here is drwiggl3s trying to defend another player's nonsense post without prompting. WHY is he doing this? Moreover, how in the world do you get "He might be new or he might have read BKE scummy before others did" out of casualman's post?

Finally, I have to point this out. Because I think drwiggl3s is lying.
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 12:14 drwiggl3s wrote:
Hi all. First game + first post playing mafia so bare with me.

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 05:13 drwiggl3s wrote:
As for other players: I find many people are soft defending BKEXE and in their posts trying to put suspicion onto others (with little reason). I see these as scummy moves.
I don't know about you guys, but I did a lot of lurking here before playing. drwiggl3s makes sure to tell us it's his first game, but then his only post of substance is describing why BKE looks a little scummier because people are SOFT DEFENDING BKE. That's not a "This is my first day cycle playing mafia" thought in my mind. That's not my thought process in the first thing I ever post. Either casualman is lying about not being a smurf, or casualman got fed that reasoning by scumbuddies. I actually lean towards the former, because casualman created his account 5/1/2012. Fresh account + "Oh I'm a newb, bear with me" + comments about soft defense = lying about being new in my mind.

***NEW ADDED POINT*** - anyone who thinks that drwiggl3s is ACTUALLY new is going to have to be convinced that him saying he's new outweighs the soft defense reference as well as the fact that he just happened to name himself drwiggl3s and joined mrwiggles' game. Does the naming thing not make others think smurf over new player?

tl;dr
  • drwiggl3s ninja voted
  • drwiggl3s later gave an AWFUL reason for his ninja vote that makes no sense
  • drwiggl3s randomly props up casualman's ridiculous post
  • drwiggl3s does not appear to be as new as he claims
  • drwiggl3s hasn't really contributed anything helpful at all
  • drwiggl3s is scum


I am currently voting mK. I am alright with my vote on mK. But the one player I'd absolutely be willing to swap to, or to try and get others to swap to, is drwiggl3s




Shiaopi and solstice, how do you guys read drwiggl3s. Both D1 and overall, if you can separate those two things.

Also, for marv, I'd like for you to take another look at his D1. Now that you are no longer pushing foxtrot, do you still read wiggl3s the same way?
Fe fi fo fum.
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