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My portion of the Cat Party will not be running for office though. I will be away from the game for a full 24 hours tuesday (aka in 48 hours) so I will fall far behind and don't want to put myself in a position of power and responsibility when I know this. :3 | ||
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I like wiggles. He's putting a strong effort into the game and so far and I like his initiatives. | ||
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On May 30 2012 09:38 strongandbig wrote: Mattchew at least try and interact with the thread. Your play previous to this had been so bad that it made me think you are scum. See my earlier posts. I'm choosing to assume scum are not retarded. Like I said before, if I was a vig again I would have shot you again this game, just like I did last game. (oh wait, you were scum last game? Huh!) So you think ve is retarded for justifying my hit as blue hunting or are you smarter than ve | ||
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On May 30 2012 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote: I can point out where you were scummily not posting Mattchew is that the same thing? <3 I can't deny this | ||
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On May 30 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Mattchew what do you think about WBG's observation about Gambit? It could be true... It also could be shooting a solid vet before he has the chance to make reads... I think gambit needs to die | ||
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On May 30 2012 10:03 Blazinghand wrote: S&B bussing For once... We agree | ||
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Bh is not a town meta read | ||
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On May 30 2012 11:29 VisceraEyes wrote: I see what you're doing Mattchew. I see it bro. Mattchew wants to lynch SnB There, now even people ignoring you can see it.  Thanks I'm on a plane on my iPhone and formatting posts suck | ||
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On May 30 2012 11:31 Blazinghand wrote: SnB is prob scum, trying to bus his scumbuddy G32 Care to elaborate more so I can be lazy and echo your thoughts if I agree | ||
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On May 30 2012 13:40 wherebugsgo wrote: I've read it, and the entirety of your filter. On May 30 2012 13:48 wherebugsgo wrote: anyway it doesn't matter. The solution to this dilemma is simple. There is 4 claimed KP from last night. 1 is confirmed to have gone to Forumite. 3 are claimed by myself, Mattchew, and Meapak. If no vigi claims a shot that means that one of these players is lying. It's not me, and I really don't think it's Meapak. That leaves Mattchew. So, as long as there is no vig claim then Mattchew is almost certainly scum. In before scummy lurker #5 claims a shot on Mattchew DO YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING IRONIC THIS IS On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote: Hey guys... I wasn't shot... + Show Spoiler + But strongandbig fell into my trap cause he knew this (Aka his team didn't shoot me)... If the trap failed it would have made scum believe there was a vig shot already used or an sk or something (Aka giving them fake game info) so it seemed like a win-win On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote: guys... I wasn't shot... On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote: I wasn't shot... | ||
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On May 30 2012 13:51 strongandbig wrote: Also - I still think mattchew is scum, and supersoft is scum-ish. Alternatively I guess mattchew could just be pissed at me for shooting him and then gloating about it, but whatever. Still scummy. hold the phone WHAT | ||
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On May 30 2012 14:02 wherebugsgo wrote: why the hell would you lie about getting shot? holy shit that just makes me mad cause there was nothing anti-town about it, if snb had not slipped so hard on it, it would have just confused mafia. | ||
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On May 30 2012 13:59 strongandbig wrote: when you were scum and i was the vig and i shot you oh my bad | ||
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On May 30 2012 14:02 wherebugsgo wrote: derp that's my bad. I glossed over that one post, particularly as you continually attacked snb for doubting you getting shot. you're still a liar. I don't like liars. how does snb know i didn't get shot (before you claimed mind you)... I mean, if we are to believe your claim, what makes you a better shot than me given our filters before the night post. I think (as VE also stated) I looked pretty blue making me a viable shot and at worst a more experienced than most townie kill that probably has no protection | ||
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On May 30 2012 14:10 wherebugsgo wrote: This post to me seems to display no indication of knowledge of the night kills, just that your shot claim doesn't make sense as a scum one. and yours does? + Show Spoiler [WBG Filter Pre-night] + On May 30 2012 04:40 wherebugsgo wrote: Catching up right now. If anyone needs anything specific let me know, but it'll be a couple hours at the least before I can respond. On May 30 2012 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote: why I love supersoft my thoughts exactly whenever I read his posts LOL I come across first Toad post = oh god wtf On May 30 2012 06:34 wherebugsgo wrote: Is there a particular reason Gambitx32 wasn't warned or replaced for not voting? I ctrl-f'd his name in greymist's filter and didn't find anything there either. I have a scumread on him based on his only two posts in the thread. Both of his posts are massive walls of summarizing nothing. He also asks On May 30 2012 06:35 wherebugsgo wrote: oh wtf it cut off. He asks a bunch of people to state who they're going to vote and stuff but he doesn't vote himself. Why has no one questioned you about your claimed hit? He knew I was not hit by mafia, so he wanted to out the vig that shot me because thats what scum do when they don't know everything. They try to find it out | ||
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On May 30 2012 14:22 Probulous wrote: Could be, depends if you're town or not. You're not making much sense  If I get your thinking right, it goes like this
I suggest we all grow up, drop the issue and lynch based on posting rather than one's interpretation of a failed trap. But my trap worked to perfection. I fail to see how I was scummier than WBG or MZ before the night post, so why are their claims taken at face value and mine not. I told the thread early on I would not be active, I have now been posting for almost 24 hours straight (no sleep or breaks) to get back involved in this game. Up until snb, ET was the only one to post suspicions about my shot claim+ Show Spoiler [ET post about my shot] + On May 30 2012 08:32 EchelonTee wrote: Mattchew the last KP, unless someone claims a medic protect. I'm curious why he got shot. | ||
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On May 30 2012 14:26 sToFu wrote: I would tend to side w/ SnB on the issue of Mattchew. His "let me lie to town and spring a trap" strategy seems inherently flawed, and I do think that SnB's reasoning was solid in that Mattchew would be more likely to be a vig hit than a mafia hit, especially given some of the accusations pressed against him D1. I was hardly spoken of day 1 and how is my lying flawed. In what way could my lie hurt town unless I were to try and do what WBG is doing pushing for a liar lynch cause of an unclaimed extra shot (something I had no intention of doing) Plus, if you believe that MZ, WBG and forumite were the 3 scum kills, why (as scum) would I post that I was hit knowing that 2 others could easily claim and get me lynched for lying unless I had other purposes with the claim (as I did cause I am town) | ||
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On May 30 2012 14:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Matt, I think you're grasping a bit here, and I disagree. Strongandbig wasn't asking for the vig to claim, he was just asking the thread if they thought you made sense as a vig shot. Frankly, you'd be a confusing mafia shot, since you hadn't done much in the thread, and people were suspicious of you. WBG on the other hand, may have been shot for bringing up a lurker who was scum (gambit), or he could have been shot on reputation alone to kill a vet when he'd be more unlikely to have protection or make an impact on the game. So, it makes sense to me for strongandbig to question your hit, since it didn't make much sense for scum to hit you. It made more sense for a vig to hit you. I don't think you can use that post as a point against him. Right now I'm trying to determine who I think is scummiest/want to lynch from kitaman/supersoft/zealos/gambit. God hindsight is 20/20 in this thread... Obviously now that people know I wasn't actually hit its super easy to say "omg you weren't a scum target thats so obvi duhhh" but before all the other hit claims no one said this except ET and SnB. And ET did not discount that scum shot me, he just expressed interest in it | ||
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You can say my filter is weak, but I don't think anything about it screams scummy. I was simply unable to participate in the game until recently. You could go so far to say that I looked a little Blue, but if scum were to have shot me I believe they would have been just shooting at a relatively experienced player that was basically guaranteed to not be protected. If you think my filter looks that much worse than WBG and you believe his claim I would like to know why? I understand he subbed into the game having much less time to post, but that still does not make a difference when push comes to shove about the overall content of both of our filters. Also, you can say that lying to town is bad. I agree most of the time, but I haven't heard an answer to "how this lie can hurt town or push an anti-town agenda?". Another point is why would I, as scum, claim, knowing that MZ and WBG were shot and still alive and likely to (I see no reason they wouldn't) claim. I would have been the obvious choice for lynch for lying according to you all, and even if I wasn't I would have been sacrificing myself to an actual vig shot / next day lynch that I don't think has any benefit as scum. | ||
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On May 30 2012 14:55 Probulous wrote: Ok Matt, I understand. The fact that you claimed your shot first and that he dismissed you as a possible scum shot is pretty bad. I thought you had claimed after the others but by my reading you were first. So in essence the question boils down to "Why would someone believe that scum used all their kill point on Forumite and so Matt was shot by a vig; over Matt being shot by scum?" Is that right? nope cause i think MZ claimed a hit sometime in there. Its why did he assume the doublestack of forum (or assume another unclaimed hit) and put me in the vig target only list... Maybe this is just me but if I were an observer of the situation I wouldn't care about who was hit by what until the claimed hits were greater than the mafia KP. This wasn't the case | ||
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On May 30 2012 14:57 Probulous wrote: Don't misrepresent my words I never said anything about you being scum. I said that SnB might have responded like he did even if he is town. In otherwords your trap was stupid. On May 30 2012 14:22 Probulous wrote: Could be, depends if you're town or not. You're not making much sense If I get your thinking right, it goes like this
I suggest we all grow up, drop the issue and lynch based on posting rather than one's interpretation of a failed trap. | ||
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On May 30 2012 15:01 sToFu wrote: You ask how the lie could hurt town, and you provided a method with which it could hurt town. . can you please elaborate on this... how did I provide a method where it hurt town? | ||
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On May 30 2012 15:09 Probulous wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336250¤tpage=62#1229 Good god Matt calm down. That point of that post was that SnB might have thought you weren't town. No need to get your panties in a knot. Ok here is the order of events So at that point there were two shots claimed plus a kill, totalling three which accounts for all scum KP. So yeah, odd he would assume vig shot when there was plenty of scum KP available. I am calm, you said I was misrepresenting your words when I wasn't. And to have a meta scum read on me is illogical, i post equally if not more as scum, so me lurking after giving a reason for it is the most forced scum read one could have. and I think you are catching on. I saw you had a post about snb before as well | ||
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On May 30 2012 18:35 wherebugsgo wrote: man are you dumb? That was 90% of the reason I was calling you scum. Both SnB and I thought the hit claim you were claiming had to either be a lie or a vig hit. Obviously there was no way scum would shoot you. Lying about it makes no sense as town, because you get situations like these. Now let's move on. We lynch gambit man, since he still hasn't appeared and his first two posts are still the same shit they were the last time I read them. Man are you dumb? You knew that you were the 3rd hit thus making me the 4th claimed hit from 3 scum kp... Snb DID NOT have this same info (from the thread atleast) and yet came to the same conclusion If lying makes no sense as town are you calling me scum? | ||
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On May 30 2012 23:02 strongandbig wrote: @probulous: Here's the reason I wanted toad to say something about this claimed anti manipulation power. When you're dealing with a nonstandard power, and when you're dealing with greymist, role does not always equal alignment. Since I have trouble imagining how this power would work, I have trouble believing it. It still feels to me like toad was lying to get elected mayor. That said, I understand that revealing how it works could make it less useful if toad at some point masons a scum or someone he thinks is scummy. So what about this: toad, when you get a mason buddy who you're like 100% sure is town, could you explain this thing to them and they could tell the thread whether they believe you? Also, toad, why did you claim when you did? If the answer is just "to become mayor," then why did you want to be mayor so badly? a. the roles are in the OP and are all alignment assigned b. how is toad lying if MZ confirmed him? are they both scum? c. I would bet that he claimed to become mayor because he is town. I don't see why he needs further explanation, it is a role of power that decides day 1's lynch | ||
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On May 30 2012 22:45 supersoft wrote: okay how many people took bullets? MZ took a hit wherebugsgo took a hit both of them were saved. Forumite took a hit aswell. Vigs who shot one of them must claim now. this is so strange. Might be scum panicking after he saw that no townplayer died. I didn't even wait for WBG to claim his hit, how is that panicking... Did you read the post in context to the entire thread or just in my filter or quoted somewhere? | ||
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On May 30 2012 23:07 strongandbig wrote: Who would you have lynched? Also if you explained it to MZ and he believes you I'm satisfied. I think he's probably town. If you think MZ is town then that has to confirm Toad as town being that scum don't have a mason, its a green role | ||
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On May 30 2012 23:42 supersoft wrote: fuck you okay? I hate to deal with idiots like you. Of course i read that shit in the context. Noone claimes so far. You claimed before any PMs went out that told people they were hit. Scumteam know who they hit. obviously they dont have to wait for claims to know who was hit. WTF dude. As a side note I am not offended by this at all. I did not realize that the hit notices went out after my post, care to explain how you knew this because no where in the thread is this posted. Also, what I am saying is that as scum, why would I claim a fake hit that I KNOW can be EZ mode outted as a lie because WBG and MZ are alive. My move was to try and catch someone that knew more than townies about the night shots. SnB was that person, he couldn't keep his information to himself. Whether it was to look smarter when WBG inevitably claimed his hit and then a vig claimed mine or because he wanted to out the vig that shot me or to try and push a mislynch onto me for lying, his intentions and knowledge behind his post about me being shot were clear; He knew that I was not shot by scum in a time where the information available to the thread would not lead one to such conclusion | ||
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On May 31 2012 01:10 supersoft wrote: nvm. you dont understand my thoughtprocess and the pros for a scumteam to have one of them fake a hit. i draw that comclusion, because you keep repeating the same things i already read. on the other hand you're probably telling the truth now. i think your town gj. If you think I am town, do you think that SnB is scum? Can you elaborate on your thought process so that maybe I can understand it. The way I see it, is that the only way that my fake claim works in favor of a scum agenda, is if I use it to determine my innocence. The only way to do that is to convince town I was indeed shot by scum, but if I were scum I would know that WBG and MZ were to claim, thus outting my claim in a probable 1 for 1 trade which in no way is good for scum | ||
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On May 31 2012 06:34 EchelonTee wrote: @mattchew Unless SnB has drastically improved his scum game, he's probably town this game. His responses to pressure, and his continuing forthrightness seem pretty townie. In SS Mafia, in response to pressure SnB was all like "pls... believe me I'm town...  "In this game he's more like "....I'm town you moron". I would think that was his only game ever as scum... Do you remember your first game as scum? How much different was it from your second? How much better did you play | ||
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We have the best possible night for town, and we want to lynch a claimed blue, vet? We should take this time to lynch lurkers and scummy newbs, because we have been afforded the opportunity to by our protection roles. Think about who you want to make your reads on later in the game, someone you've played with and is active, or someone that posts once a cycle and you hve never played with and is like flipping a coin. Lynching VE is straight up stupid and if he flips town, it is taking away a scum night kill and a town KP. Do you really think scum are going to shoot players like cwave, hyaach, grush, manason, gambit? These are the players we should be lynching (or SnB cause he claimed scum and I mean just look at his vote on VE that leaves a disclaimer about VE flipping town, 90% reasoning being meta while a quick 1 line about VE's vote switching) because when we get to the late game, these are the players that lose town games | ||
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We have the best possible night for town, and we want to lynch a claimed blue, vet? We should take this time to lynch lurkers and scummy newbs, because we have been afforded the opportunity to by our protection roles. Think about who you want to make your reads on later in the game, someone you've played with and is active, or someone that posts once a cycle and you hve never played with and is like flipping a coin. Lynching VE is straight up stupid and if he flips town, it is taking away a scum night kill and a town KP. Do you really think scum are going to shoot players like cwave, hyaach, grush, manason, gambit? These are the players we should be lynching (or SnB cause he claimed scum and I mean just look at his vote on VE that leaves a disclaimer about VE flipping town, 90% reasoning being meta while a quick 1 line about VE's vote switching) because when we get to the late game, these are the players that lose town games | ||
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On June 01 2012 00:57 Toadesstern wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 01 2012 00:28 Mattchew wrote: Reposting We have the best possible night for town, and we want to lynch a claimed blue, vet? We should take this time to lynch lurkers and scummy newbs, because we have been afforded the opportunity to by our protection roles. Think about who you want to make your reads on later in the game, someone you've played with and is active, or someone that posts once a cycle and you hve never played with and is like flipping a coin. Lynching VE is straight up stupid and if he flips town, it is taking away a scum night kill and a town KP. Do you really think scum are going to shoot players like cwave, hyaach, grush, manason, gambit? These are the players we should be lynching (or SnB cause he claimed scum and I mean just look at his vote on VE that leaves a disclaimer about VE flipping town, 90% reasoning being meta while a quick 1 line about VE's vote switching) because when we get to the late game, these are the players that lose town games the point is, VE claimed blue without a reason. His claim does us nothing. Mafia or SK can easily fake being a vig and he should know that himself. If he had actually claimed something like a VT I would have maybe considered lynching Zealos instead but Vig is just way to convenient to be true. Why do you want to lynch into lurkers or scummy newbs? I'd say the case on VE is equally strong as the case on Zealos or better. On top of that VE is a player we all know, so noone can hide behind a "well duh, guess he was some unreadable newbie who did bullshit" excuse. If someone like hyaach flips town, what's your plan for the next night or day? We have a shitton of lurkers and I am certain everyone, or at least the majority of people who are mafia but aren't considered vet is trying to hide between those lurkers. How are you supposed to decide wether it's cwace, hyaach, grush, manason or gambit? Are those the only lurkers? What's with phagga (is he still in the game or replaced?), Hassybaby (he usually posts WAY MORE), sToFu (same as phagge, is he still in the game?) and Kenpachi ? Are all 9 of them mafia? If not how in the world are we supposed to differentiate between them when frankly, a case and scummy behavior is probably a town sign for those people as they're at least trying while the rest is trying it's best to shut up and not post a thing. We lost a complete cycle d1 due to wiggles lynch giving us 0 information. Luckily Mafia screwed up as well bringing us in the same situation we had before the game started. We're not in a good position. We basicly had a NL d1 and no kills (thanks to awesome protection) N1 making it effectively d1 although it might look like town is in a good position because we had no kills n1. There are different "camps" in this game and we desperately need to know which camp is just plain wrong, which camp is right and who's mafia. We don't get that by "policy-lynching" into lurkers hoping to hit mafia. Yeah we could hit mafia but I'm not going to lynch based on that. And no I'm not saying we're lynching VE for information. VE is the best guy for lynch right now AND he's giving a shitton of information on flip no matter what. That's a Jackpot for us. Because a. I don't think VE is scum. His response to me getting shot screamed that he believed I was shot by mafia. Being that I wasn't, I don't think this can be faked as easily as I know you guys are going to say it can. b. I don't want to play into the late game with the list of players that I mentioned. They don't post which makes them not hard, but impossible to read. Weeding out the herd while inevitably lynching scum is a good tactic. c. You want VE to lie about his role? If he claims VT and flips vig, everyone would be like VE WTF MAN Y U NO CLAIM BLUE I WOULD HAVE NEVER LYNCHED YOU HAD YOU CLAIMED THAT d. If he flip hyaach or anyone and they flip town, we wait till the night kills and then we re-evaluate. e. i asked about phagga and ange on the top of this page. sToFu posts a lot, hassybaby is also MIA but he isn't newb and Kenpachi has a bunch of posts as well. My list is of newbie lurkers. f. IDK who's mafia and who's not in there, we are not able to differentiate, thats why we kill them all early, instead of them being an easy late game LYLO mislynch. | ||
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On June 01 2012 01:26 Toadesstern wrote: Mattchew it's easy as this: You lynch into people who think are scummy to get peoples opinion on them and to get mafia. You shoot into people that are hard to read because they're not posting because lynching them gives 0 information. Let our vigs do the job of cleaning that mess up. If we shoot someone like VE and he flips that's less information than we'd get from a lynch either way. Lynching or shooting into a lurker however makes no difference, except for the fact that we're wasting our lynch. Why is thinning the herd (and potentially hitting scum) providing nothing to town... It makes it easier to focus in on people that are actually readable And why do you assume we have all this kp? And then want to lynch one of the claimed vigs | ||
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On June 01 2012 03:21 Hassybaby wrote: MH are you seriously not even considering the aspect of you being wrong? He also fails to consider VE being town during his analysis. It is completely clouded and one-sided. I think his case (while long as fuck) is terrible. It fails to take into account that VE could be town and the player VE is. | ||
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On June 01 2012 03:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: VE you know you can't respond to my case. Every post you've made has against it has been about how "wrong" I am but you can't show why I'm wrong. Also I like how you're now accusing me of being scum. That's just the icing on the cake. ![[image loading]](http://katieflanagan.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/tunnel-vision.jpg) | ||
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On June 01 2012 03:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lol mattchew there is a difference between lynching scum and tunneling someone. Have a looksy in my filter, that might help you out to learn what working to get scum lynched looks like. i just said why your case is bad. k thx | ||
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On June 01 2012 06:12 papapanda wrote: Grush, if you starsense is telling you VE is not scum, don't vote for him...vote for who you believe to be scum; I would recommend wriggles(long as its not me) Gambit didn't respond yet, if he ninjas today he is dead tomorrow. The only reliable way I can think of to confirm VE is 1)tell him who to shoot 2)someone protect the target 3) target tells us whats up. Before you post comments on why this is a stupid plan, I want to say that I agree it's a stupid plan and this is not going to happen tonight because so many things can go wrong. #Vote:VE You want him to vote wiggles, but you vote VE? | ||
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On June 01 2012 06:44 marvellosity wrote: what do you find valid in particular? what makes YOU think he's scum? Don't you know how hard it is to answer this question as scum | ||
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On June 01 2012 07:44 Probulous wrote: I don't think there is anything careful about VE's playstyle. I was wrong, it seems it seems 14 was the hammer. VE where you at? Don't go missing now. Note: Zealos hasn't voted. Mattchew is still on SnB? Because i think he's scum and its not like anyone else is being lynched. My vote doesn't matter because at this point its either on VE or not on VE | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Also btw everyone, that's what a mislynch looks like. I frankly should have gave a shit how so and so acted in some game from 2 months ago. I tried to tell you why so and so is scum THIS GAME (AND NO OTHERS). Meta is a useful tool, however I see a lot of people with no idea what they're doing trying to base entire arguments off of meta which is sometimes justified. I should have cared how someone is acting compared to the last game. Even though you can give relevant and referenced examples of their play in another game I'm not even going to pay attention (and no, just blindly linking someone's filter doesn't count, you have to explain to me why it's relevant cause I can't figure that shit out). | ||
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On June 01 2012 08:15 Hassybaby wrote: Told you he was dead...sorry for not believing you earlier VE Wait....what does Zealos' role mean? Does he control all of scum KP or just one? scum kp is # of scum divided by 2 rounded up... I don't think anyone controls it... he just can go kill people on scum's behalf if I read everything correctly | ||
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On June 01 2012 08:17 jaj22 wrote: Apparently I need to use more gut and less brain. I wanna kill BH for lurking the run-up and then trying to cause a no-lynch. I wanna kill Mattchew for leaving his vote somewhere useless and then showing up immediately after the deadline. marv answered too but i will reiterate On June 01 2012 07:46 Mattchew wrote: Because i think he's scum and its not like anyone else is being lynched. My vote doesn't matter because at this point its either on VE or not on VE | ||
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On June 01 2012 08:37 jaj22 wrote: I guess Kita had the most reason to spot the breadcrumb?  Despite that, Kita never gives an opinion on Zealos apart from: Zealos also evades his lurker/suspicious list without explanation. Along with Mattchew. how am i either? | ||
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On June 01 2012 08:55 Kenpachi wrote: WOW i doubt myself too often. mattchew for mafia why? | ||
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On June 01 2012 08:59 Kenpachi wrote: its more like the reaction to my first analysis on Zealos's dumbfuck post got Matt to instantly say im try harding (im paraphrasing) when that is a completely normal post i like to make when i spot a post i dont like. more gut intuition too but i really dont know his metagame and his play is pretty suspicious honestly (yeah). I meant that in a good way :/ | ||
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On June 01 2012 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Look at me? Lol you should be thanking me for trying to avert a mislynch. G32 should be #1 scum on everyone's list. Trying to avert a mislynch would have been you in the thread for hours before the lynch talking to people about not mislynching VE. Instead you just tried to last minute unvote | ||
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On June 01 2012 09:01 Kenpachi wrote: even if you did, its pretty hard to say its tryharding and i feel you'd say that if you knew who was who. i meant, that I was used to you lurking and trolling regardless of alignment. The fact that you were posting actual thoughts in the thread took me offguard | ||
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On June 01 2012 09:04 Blazinghand wrote: I didnt know VE is town but when it was 100% clear g32 was scum i fwlt the nees to vote him. ok, I don't think your actions are directly scummy, but do you understand why it looks a little strange? 1. Votes VE, says that he thinks VE is scum 2. Leaves thread for a while 3. Switches vote to G32, threatening a no-lynch, despite not saying that you think VE is town. 4. Does not make sense, because if you still think VE is scum, then a no-lynch is worse than a VE lynch. There's a disconnect somewhere; your only reasoning is "you're sure g32 is scum"? | ||
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I'd FOS wiggles, manason, ange hyaach | ||
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just meant im watching you closely. I have no case its just a feel. I wouldn't suggest killing you before anyone I named | ||
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On June 01 2012 10:02 strongandbig wrote: When he fakeclaimed taking a shot. Honestly, he could be town, but if he is he's not trying at all to establish that or to help the team at all. He played an extremely active scum game in HR mafia, so it makes sense to me that he would play a lurkier scum this time around. How is pushing my reads, and pushing people away from my townreads not helping the team. | ||
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On June 01 2012 11:07 kitaman27 wrote: You guys can't agree with the case against VE and then call me scum when he flips town. If prior to VE's flip, you all agree that his case against me is awful, then that doesn't make the case suddenly valid after the flip. It was an unfortunate case of town vs town. I'll reread and give my thoughts tomorrow afternoon. "guys, you can't think im scum cause a confirmed townie called me scum" - Kitaman27 | ||
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a. bus zealos that early along with maybe bussing kita should he flip scum b. type something that unbelievably suspicious in the thread with teammates that would tell him not to post that c. type that freely in the thread, as to say I don't sense hesitation or a fear of looking scummy, I just sense a guy who doesn't want to be lynched. | ||
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On June 01 2012 23:05 marvellosity wrote: Also I think Matt's trap point is retarded. Don't let it bother you unless he actually has a proper case to present. You might wanna wait on making assertions like this. SnB's alignment is still unknown which means neither of us know if it worked or not yet. Also, my "traps" or "schemes" as town have had a high success rate in the past, (EX. Early second vote on Acro in GoT, Reading into Decon's 1,1 pick in PYP)... | ||
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On June 01 2012 06:12 papapanda wrote: Grush, if you starsense is telling you VE is not scum, don't vote for him...vote for who you believe to be scum; I would recommend wriggles(long as its not me) Gambit didn't respond yet, if he ninjas today he is dead tomorrow. The only reliable way I can think of to confirm VE is 1)tell him who to shoot 2)someone protect the target 3) target tells us whats up. Before you post comments on why this is a stupid plan, I want to say that I agree it's a stupid plan and this is not going to happen tonight because so many things can go wrong. #Vote:VE Where is the reason for voting ve here? | ||
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