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On May 31 2012 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Your post doesn't have a conclusion prob. I assumed lynchers know their target because it would be an imbalanced role otherwise. I've never played in a game where a player's win condition is to lynch an unknown target.
I find the following players scummy and have listed them in the preference of lynching order.
VisceraEyes: case stated earlier
sToFu: Apologetic, lacks town tells
Mr. Wiggles: Band-wagoning, play has completely dropped off as promising to be a leader
strongandbig: stated ealier
Hassybaby: Active lurker. Refusing to contribute even after people have complained about his apathy.
I find the following having contributed little to nothing in the thread. I'd like each of them to comment about the above five names or bring up something meaningful to show that they care about showing that they are town. Otherwise, they should all be considered for vig shots.
Manason
GambitX32
Cwave
Hassybaby
Kenpachi
phagga
Hyaach
sToFu
As you wish. Also note that I have previously stated I'm for the lynching of Kita or Zealous. So don't come at me and say that I'm just mad that your calling for a vig shot.
VisceraEyes: He's for lynching Kita, so I want to work with him for now.
sToFu: I don't think he's scum.
Mr. Wiggles: I voted for him because I trusted his judgment. Nothing I've seen so far has led me to not trust my intial insticts.
strongandbig: at some points I've thought he's scum, other times town. To be honest I have no opinion at the moment.
Hassybaby: I'm not for lynching the lurkers at the moment as we have better targets that are active. Like Kita and Zealous.
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I have balls Bugs...they're huge.
The thing is this: it's almost a whole day from the lynch as opposed to the lynch being today as I thought it was. There's plenty of time for consolidation, and I intend to consolidate when the time comes.
Why is my willingness to lynch scummy lurkers more suspicious than MZ and Kita's lack of vote Bugs? Can you answer me that?
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On May 31 2012 12:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
I have balls Bugs...they're huge.
The thing is this: it's almost a whole day from the lynch as opposed to the lynch being today as I thought it was. There's plenty of time for consolidation, and I intend to consolidate when the time comes.
Why is my willingness to lynch scummy lurkers more suspicious than MZ and Kita's lack of vote Bugs? Can you answer me that?
Did you forget that MZ actually took a hit?
So unless you consider MZ to be lying about taking a shot to the face, I don't even know why you're asking me about him.
Yeah, I find kita scummy, but lack of a vote isn't actually as scummy as the constant change of vote onto the flavor of the moment. If you're going to constantly change your vote based on whoever is being called scum at any given moment why even vote at all?
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Because Probulous' case on Hyaach is better than yours on Gambit Bugs, get over it.
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Gambit = Zealos...although you made both.
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On May 31 2012 12:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because Probulous' case on Hyaach is better than yours on Gambit Bugs, get over it.
I'm not even voting Gambit anymore.
Or are you forgetting that you voted Zealos as well?
Care to explain why you're calling nonvoters like kita scummy when the number of nonvoters is something like 18? You think they're all scum, or that all of the scum are in there?
(and I think kita just ninja voted, or at least it's a ninja vote till he explains it here)
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kitaman27
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On May 31 2012 12:35 Manason wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Your post doesn't have a conclusion prob. I assumed lynchers know their target because it would be an imbalanced role otherwise. I've never played in a game where a player's win condition is to lynch an unknown target.
I find the following players scummy and have listed them in the preference of lynching order.
VisceraEyes: case stated earlier
sToFu: Apologetic, lacks town tells
Mr. Wiggles: Band-wagoning, play has completely dropped off as promising to be a leader
strongandbig: stated ealier
Hassybaby: Active lurker. Refusing to contribute even after people have complained about his apathy.
I find the following having contributed little to nothing in the thread. I'd like each of them to comment about the above five names or bring up something meaningful to show that they care about showing that they are town. Otherwise, they should all be considered for vig shots.
Manason
GambitX32
Cwave
Hassybaby
Kenpachi
phagga
Hyaach
sToFu As you wish. Also note that I have previously stated I'm for the lynching of Kita or Zealous. So don't come at me and say that I'm just mad that your calling for a vig shot. VisceraEyes: He's for lynching Kita, so I want to work with him for now. sToFu: I don't think he's scum. Mr. Wiggles: I voted for him because I trusted his judgment. Nothing I've seen so far has led me to not trust my intial insticts. strongandbig: at some points I've thought he's scum, other times town. To be honest I have no opinion at the moment. Hassybaby: I'm not for lynching the lurkers at the moment as we have better targets that are active. Like Kita and Zealous.
You stated that you wish to pressure me with your vote, but have not once explained your reasoning for voting me. Please provide a case (and I hope its more detailed than your views of those five)
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Because they actually have CASES Bugs. They're both gunning for me and only NOW want to vote for me? That strikes me as hella odd considering one of MZ's main contentions with me was my lack of vote on Kita early D2.
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kitaman27
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On May 31 2012 12:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
(and I think kita just ninja voted, or at least it's a ninja vote till he explains it here)
It's not a ninja vote when I've written a full case and explained my intentions several times. I figured I'd give VE something else to spam about :p
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You're telling me you don't recognize this tactic Bugs? Really?
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kitaman27
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You have 220 posts VE (12+ pages of filter). If you truly are town, please try to consolidate. Thanks!
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On May 31 2012 12:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
I have balls Bugs...they're huge.
The thing is this: it's almost a whole day from the lynch as opposed to the lynch being today as I thought it was. There's plenty of time for consolidation, and I intend to consolidate when the time comes.
Why is my willingness to lynch scummy lurkers more suspicious than MZ and Kita's lack of vote Bugs? Can you answer me that?
On May 30 2012 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 09:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Shut up Toad you're not worth a mafia bullet. You cause so much disruption regardless of alignment it's no wonder everyone calls you hypnotoad.
We kill gambit man today. He ninja voted ET yesterday and he's said nothing. Eat shit and die, scum.
##vote Gambitx32 Whoa there buddy, we don't lynch lurkers here...we shoot scummy lurkers with holy bullets of townie fury....not hang them. How about we lynch someone who's posting so we can get information with our lynch?Ya? No? I like your target other than the fact that his lynch will net us no new information.
On May 30 2012 10:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 09:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
No, I lynch scum and scum exist indiscriminately of their posting activity.
If we had no vigis and all 6 scum lurked, by your plan none of them would ever die. Can't have that, now can we? We absolutely can't, and if I were convinced that all 6 scum were lurking I'd definitely be down with lynching a scummy lurker...but as it stands, D2, I personally would rather find active scum. You can count on my support if it's needed though Bugs... Gambit has definitely gotta go one way or the other.
On May 31 2012 06:32 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 06:30 Toadesstern wrote:On May 31 2012 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
The more I think about it the less that makes sense Toad. Think about it - two phone-booth circles going on simultaneously? I can't even wrap my brain around the implications, and if that's the case I'm going to literally eat my hat. I know, I thought the same but I'm not sure  Maybe there's some variations idk How many games (Outside Responsibility) have you heard of that include different variations of the same role? I mean, is it possible? Yeah...obviously anything is possible. Probable? Meh. MEH. I don't think so sir. I think Gambit is a fine choice...Bugs, don't get buyer's remorse. Gambit is a fine lynch.
On May 31 2012 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote: Gambit
##Vote: Zealos
No I can get down on this lynch. I think they're both scum at this point, and I think this is the motivation behind this VE push.
On May 31 2012 09:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
I support a lynch of Hyaach....in fact, I agree that his flip will be more telling of important parties based on what I'm seeing in your case, so hell yeah.
Everyone in town should read Probulous' case because it's actually good.
Something to note Probulous is the fact that Kitaman promised to take a closer look at Hyaach specifically BECAUSE he chose him as his random candidate. I wonder what the fruits of those observations has been.
##Unvote: Zealos
##Vote: Hyaach
On May 31 2012 12:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because Probulous' case on Hyaach is better than yours on Gambit Bugs, get over it.
Other than those last two posts there's almost no mention of hyaach in your filter at all.
You know what you're doing, VE? You're letting other people do work, then sheeping them. Sheeping the flavor of the moment. That's what scum do, because if they create cases they have to take responsibility for those cases. It also involves work.
Scum are lazy. They like pulling the strings from the shadows because when townies get lynched the people who take the fall are the ones out in the open doing the dirty work.
You're not doing any of the dirty work, VE. You're not making cases and you're not pushing lynches. You're sheeping them, and you've openly admitted that the sole reason you're not voting Gambit nor Zealos is because Probulous seemingly made a "stronger" case on Hyaach.
Clearly you have not thought about a hyaach lynch nor did you even pay attention to him before. There was no indication of that in your filter.
You also contradicted yourself and are trying to make others look bad instead of yourself. It's like you don't like the attention all of a sudden.
So, all of MZ/kita/hyaach/zealos/gambit look bad, eh? Why is it that you seem to have no confidence or drive to actually make a proper read of any of these players?
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On May 31 2012 12:40 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 12:35 Manason wrote:On May 31 2012 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Your post doesn't have a conclusion prob. I assumed lynchers know their target because it would be an imbalanced role otherwise. I've never played in a game where a player's win condition is to lynch an unknown target.
I find the following players scummy and have listed them in the preference of lynching order.
VisceraEyes: case stated earlier
sToFu: Apologetic, lacks town tells
Mr. Wiggles: Band-wagoning, play has completely dropped off as promising to be a leader
strongandbig: stated ealier
Hassybaby: Active lurker. Refusing to contribute even after people have complained about his apathy.
I find the following having contributed little to nothing in the thread. I'd like each of them to comment about the above five names or bring up something meaningful to show that they care about showing that they are town. Otherwise, they should all be considered for vig shots.
Manason
GambitX32
Cwave
Hassybaby
Kenpachi
phagga
Hyaach
sToFu As you wish. Also note that I have previously stated I'm for the lynching of Kita or Zealous. So don't come at me and say that I'm just mad that your calling for a vig shot. VisceraEyes: He's for lynching Kita, so I want to work with him for now. sToFu: I don't think he's scum. Mr. Wiggles: I voted for him because I trusted his judgment. Nothing I've seen so far has led me to not trust my intial insticts. strongandbig: at some points I've thought he's scum, other times town. To be honest I have no opinion at the moment. Hassybaby: I'm not for lynching the lurkers at the moment as we have better targets that are active. Like Kita and Zealous. You stated that you wish to pressure me with your vote, but have not once explained your reasoning for voting me. Please provide a case (and I hope its more detailed than your views of those five)
To be completely honest, I have no reasoning as to why I think your scum other than intuition, and I want you to defend yourself as it will either make me change my mind about voting you or provide more information. My enemy is scum, if your town please, convince me.
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BECAUSE YOU STUNNED ME INTO SILENCE ABOUT MY READS IN MTG BUGS
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On May 31 2012 12:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because they actually have CASES Bugs. They're both gunning for me and only NOW want to vote for me? That strikes me as hella odd considering one of MZ's main contentions with me was my lack of vote on Kita early D2.
yes, as opposed to you; you have no cases.
lol. Kita gives me scummy vibes and I can't pin it for now but it doesn't make you any better. I truly have no reason to defend your play given how you are acting right now; you don't seem to be concerned at all with finding scum.
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FUCK IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED TO HEAR?!
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On May 31 2012 12:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
BECAUSE YOU STUNNED ME INTO SILENCE ABOUT MY READS IN MTG BUGS
kk this is all my fault.
I get it.
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No it's not, it's mine...I let you mind-fuck me hard in that game (regardless of your alignment which is still unknown)...to the point where I'm not even sure if this is the game for me anymore.
It's not your fault, but it's a direct result of your actions against me in that game. It's destroyed my confidence in my reads and even myself.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On May 31 2012 12:48 Manason wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 12:40 kitaman27 wrote:On May 31 2012 12:35 Manason wrote:On May 31 2012 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Your post doesn't have a conclusion prob. I assumed lynchers know their target because it would be an imbalanced role otherwise. I've never played in a game where a player's win condition is to lynch an unknown target.
I find the following players scummy and have listed them in the preference of lynching order.
VisceraEyes: case stated earlier
sToFu: Apologetic, lacks town tells
Mr. Wiggles: Band-wagoning, play has completely dropped off as promising to be a leader
strongandbig: stated ealier
Hassybaby: Active lurker. Refusing to contribute even after people have complained about his apathy.
I find the following having contributed little to nothing in the thread. I'd like each of them to comment about the above five names or bring up something meaningful to show that they care about showing that they are town. Otherwise, they should all be considered for vig shots.
Manason
GambitX32
Cwave
Hassybaby
Kenpachi
phagga
Hyaach
sToFu As you wish. Also note that I have previously stated I'm for the lynching of Kita or Zealous. So don't come at me and say that I'm just mad that your calling for a vig shot. VisceraEyes: He's for lynching Kita, so I want to work with him for now. sToFu: I don't think he's scum. Mr. Wiggles: I voted for him because I trusted his judgment. Nothing I've seen so far has led me to not trust my intial insticts. strongandbig: at some points I've thought he's scum, other times town. To be honest I have no opinion at the moment. Hassybaby: I'm not for lynching the lurkers at the moment as we have better targets that are active. Like Kita and Zealous. You stated that you wish to pressure me with your vote, but have not once explained your reasoning for voting me. Please provide a case (and I hope its more detailed than your views of those five) To be completely honest, I have no reasoning as to why I think your scum other than intuition, and I want you to defend yourself as it will either make me change my mind about voting you or provide more information. My enemy is scum, if your town please, convince me.
You want me to defend myself from the fact that your intuition tells you that I am scum? You've given me no case to respond to.
Does that mean your strongest scum read is based on a gut feeling? Nobody else has done anything this game that you actually find scummy?
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You know where to keep discussions of ongoing games?
in the ongoing games
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