Pick Your Power: Redux - Page 39

On May 18 2012 09:37 Bluelightz wrote:
My suspicions on Bottom 10:

Misder has only 1 pager of filter and has done little to no scum hunting.

Please, feel free to request me for more opinions.

On May 18 2012 09:38 Misder wrote:
I think there is definitely mafia in between risk.nuke, marvellosity, and sentinel. I don't see how there is any benefit to town lying about having the Janitor role at all. I also think we should deal with the Janitor role first.

Qatol: If you thought that Janitor is a really strong role for mafia that it warranted a denial, why is lynching Paqman more ideal?

Sentinel: Why are you not voting risk.nuke?

On May 18 2012 10:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:


Sorry for lateness. I was leaning risk but I wanted to make sure it was him and not marv. Since I'm vanilla and it seems like the possibility more and more as time goes on, risk it is.

##Vote: risk.nuke

On May 16 2012 20:59 deconduo wrote:


We had agreed on a plan. There was plenty of opportunity to voice any objections to it before the draft list was revealed.





It was also mentioned that there would be no changing after the draft was revealed.





And yet you come out of nowhere saying you might not follow the plan, and you give no reasoning behind it. It looks a lot like a scum wanting to be able to use janitor without having any consequences. 'Oh janitor was used? I didn't like the plan so I didn't take it, it wasn't me.'

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Might be because my initial plan was to take GF, when I figured it was a bit stronger than it actually is. However its pretty obvious that I abandoned that plan ages ago, and agreed with the current one. No idea why he would bring it up again now.

On May 18 2012 10:53 Bluelightz wrote:
Actually, risk.nuke is kinda the same as Purgatory if I recall, he claimed VT with no fear like here, but one cycle earlier. Also, I think a scum risk.nuke wouldn't be so bold as to claim VT.

Still thinking about him though.

On May 18 2012 09:38 Misder wrote:
I think there is definitely mafia in between risk.nuke, marvellosity, and sentinel. I don't see how there is any benefit to town lying about having the Janitor role at all. I also think we should deal with the Janitor role first.

Qatol: If you thought that Janitor is a really strong role for mafia that it warranted a denial, why is lynching Paqman more ideal?

Paqman: Who do you think is Janitor?

Sentinel: Why are you not voting risk.nuke?

On May 18 2012 11:04 marvellosity wrote:


when did he claim vanilla vt here?

On May 18 2012 09:38 Misder wrote:
I think there is definitely mafia in between risk.nuke, marvellosity, and sentinel. I don't see how there is any benefit to town lying about having the Janitor role at all. I also think we should deal with the Janitor role first.

Qatol: If you thought that Janitor is a really strong role for mafia that it warranted a denial, why is lynching Paqman more ideal?

Paqman: Who do you think is Janitor?

Sentinel: Why are you not voting risk.nuke?

On May 18 2012 10:33 Misder wrote:
@Toad and Qatol
By the time we figure out who Janitor is, it would be too late, no? (As in Janitor would have already used his role). Additionally, don't you think we would get some information from the way people voted between the 3 (especially since you (Toad) claim that we would find them eventually)?

On May 18 2012 10:51 Snarfs wrote:
One of risk.nuke, marv, and Sentinel is lying in a manner that is hurting town.
Which is not indicative of alignment, yet

This means that one of them is scum. That is a 1/3 chance, much better than any hunches you might have on PaqMan or sandroba or whoever else.
1/3 is horribly bad... You don't lynch into people that have a 1/3 chance of flipping red.... If I would consider sandro to be 1/3 I wouldn't even have mentioned him
To address some points:

risk.nuke has voted Sentinel and Sentinel has voted risk.nuke; therefore, it is very unlikely that one of them is lying to draw fire from scum if they have actually chosen Janitor.

Sentinel has claimed vanilla town; therefore, is probably the safest lynch of the three if we want to avoid accidentally lynching a blue.
WAAAAT?!?!?! Yeah, let's lynch into a green, shall we?

@Toad: We are not lynching blind into 3 targets. Read the thread. Read their filters. Make an educated decision. Don't lynch blind.
Yes you are. You say so yourself right below this


My scum rank for the three are:
1. Sentinel
2. risk.nuke
3. marvellosity

Awesome, you consider ALL three could possibly flip mafia? Wtf and you really consider lynching into them? That's not an educated guess. That's a straight rnd-lynch equal to the chances of a policy lynch hitting mafia

Any discussion of targets other than these 3 will only help cause confusion amongst the town and WILL ONLY BENEFIT SCUM. Qatol, I do understand the conviction to lynch a scum you think you've got pegged, but other people (myself included) just don't see the case as that strong. Here we have a 1/3 chance of hitting scum. Those are great odds. Help us out with some analysis of these 3 people rather than tunneling on PaqMan.
If I would consider Sandroba to have a chance of 1/3 to flip mafia I wouldn't even have mentioned him lol. 1/3 chance to flip mafia is HORRIBLY bad.
So no, lynching INTO one of those 3 WILL cause confusion. There's multiple people having multiple opinions and everything things someone else is the most likely townie in this constellation. If you can figure out 2 (!) of them are mafia FOR SURE (as in 85%+) fine, we lynch the 3rd guy. Unless that happens we don't lynch into them.

To conclude: People should talk about Sentinel, risk.nuke and marvellosity because there is a 1/3 random chance that one of them is scum. Talking about other targets will only help mafia because it spreads confusion among a town which must be focused to win the game.