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On May 03 2012 07:55 Gummy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 07:43 paschl wrote:On May 03 2012 07:39 Gummy wrote:On May 03 2012 07:37 paschl wrote:
Yes, there definitively is.
Im not saying he cant be a mafia because he wrote it but who do you think is more afraid to cop hunt itt?
A mafia actually posting a phrase like that is so mindboggling i cant see it happen except in the rarest of cases. So you're saying that you can trick the detective into wasting a turn on you by pretending to be scum. This helps the town how? Youre not getting what i mean by too scumy to be scum. We have this thing on our forum where outed scum post lolcats when theyre getting lynched as to give nothing away. Its a tradition in the forum. Now someone goes ahead and makes his first post of the game a lolcat. What scum would ever do that? So you could assume he is a towny because a towny is more likely to just go ahead and post it. Similarly ive seen scum post screenshots of something with a seemingly random aim window called "scumchat" open. You are appealing to an arbitrary psychological conjecture based on anecdotal evidence of people uniformly playing suboptimally. What are you trying to argue. That he is not scum, but that he is trolling?
You could also call it experience but ok.
And i said it before, he could be a towny just trying to take a bullet for a blue role.
I said before that its an easy play for scum but the mafia doesnt know the roles either. So its not a bad play for a towny to claim medic on day1 in this setup.
Especially since theyre not gonna find the detective on n1 (ok the could randomly hit him).
Again, how many actual games of werewolf have you played before?
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On May 03 2012 08:02 Gummy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:01 paschl wrote:On May 03 2012 07:55 Gummy wrote:On May 03 2012 07:43 paschl wrote:On May 03 2012 07:39 Gummy wrote:On May 03 2012 07:37 paschl wrote:
Yes, there definitively is.
Im not saying he cant be a mafia because he wrote it but who do you think is more afraid to cop hunt itt?
A mafia actually posting a phrase like that is so mindboggling i cant see it happen except in the rarest of cases. So you're saying that you can trick the detective into wasting a turn on you by pretending to be scum. This helps the town how? Youre not getting what i mean by too scumy to be scum. We have this thing on our forum where outed scum post lolcats when theyre getting lynched as to give nothing away. Its a tradition in the forum. Now someone goes ahead and makes his first post of the game a lolcat. What scum would ever do that? So you could assume he is a towny because a towny is more likely to just go ahead and post it. Similarly ive seen scum post screenshots of something with a seemingly random aim window called "scumchat" open. You are appealing to an arbitrary psychological conjecture based on anecdotal evidence of people uniformly playing suboptimally. What are you trying to argue. That he is not scum, but that he is trolling? You could also call it experience but ok. And i said it before, he could be a towny just trying to take a bullet for a blue role. I said before that its an easy play for scum but the mafia doesnt know the roles either. So its not a bad play for a towny to claim medic on day1 in this setup. Especially since theyre not gonna find the detective on n1 (ok the could randomly hit him). Again, how many actual games of werewolf have you played before? So now you don't think he's too scummy to be scum.
wat?
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Dude i study computer science, ive posted on english messaged boards for the better part of 13 years.
I understand your theory i just dont think its applicable in a game with this much imperfect information.
You just answered my post by turning words i never used around to jump at me.
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##VOTE: Gummy
pure spitevote.
id rather kill the medic than go on and play day2 with an obnoxiously arogant, self centered game theory whiz who thinks he is a genius.
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On May 03 2012 08:28 Gummy wrote:If you're going to vote for me, then do so not out of spite and make up a reason. People call me childish, but at every point in the game my actions have been consistent with the objective of the town's eventual victory. Don't blatantly make a vote for me and then admit to it being out of spite.
no.
i dont function in the atmosphere youre creating so youre detrimental to my game.
spite.
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There is nightposting?
I cant take another 24hours of this. Ill be back when the next day is called,.
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How about getting here and changing something when it matters instead of coming a day late and complain?
And since we went no lynch day1 we need another no lynch somewhere down the line unless we sweep it.
Im still here but i dont see any good coming from me making any more posts as long as Gummy is alive.
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On May 04 2012 06:10 Ange777 wrote:Aces, you should have been there earlier  Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 04:47 paschl wrote:
And since we went no lynch day1 we need another no lynch somewhere down the line unless we sweep it. Could you explain that Paschl? Why would we need another no lynch?
Tomorrow itll be 6-2. If we keep going at the usual rate (1 lynch 1 nightkill) we will end up in a situation where were at 4-2 or 3-1 somewhere down the line where no lynch is the standard play because a mislynch means a loss and no lynch means one more nightkill of information.
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isnt dec. 21 2012 and never basically the same thing?
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cant you just die already?
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oh look gummy survived. how did that happen?
please enlighten me mr gumball.
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in before "paschl is mafia and set me up".
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in after "Anyway I'm on my phone demor(cerf) the townie is dead"
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On May 04 2012 13:06 Gummy wrote:
Very revelatory of how much of this thread you actually read.
in after you shoot yourself in the foot.
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If i had to guess id say demorcerf was a strong player kill, many people thought he was a villager and there always is the added chance he might be some sort of blue.
But killing demorcerf instead of any of the direct claims does seem weird.
And it certainly has some implications but id like to think them over before i post something that isnt ready.
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Fwiw i think if Firm is mafia the kill doesnt make any sense (except the mafia doesnt buy any of the medic claims, or the mafia thinks "oh, 2 medic claims, lets think theyre not detectives and try to snipe the real cop").
Killing the detective is sooooo much more important than the medic.
DId i say sooooo? I meant unbelievably more important, especially in small games.
He could easily get away with shooting one of the medic claims.
But im still not entirely confident in my analysis.
I have some hurdles in my head to overcome since im used to the medic not being able to target the same person twice in a row which makes for a very different game.
Some of my assumptions may be flawed but ill try to keep it clear.
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Why would you ever heal Gummy?
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And im not asking that because id like nothing more than to see the inside of Gummys head sprayed across a wall (only game wise ldo) but because id like to hear your reasoning.
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fwiw, and i know this is my ego talking but i cant stop it, ive played >50 mafia games over the last 2 years. thats not counting turbos.
i just signed up for the newbie game because my regular forum is down and since i have played <3 games on TL i thought id see how different the games here are to what im used to.
and im not sure how much help the analysis you did will bring us.
the most important thing for the mafia is killing blue roles.
killing someone just for what they said about you on day 1 is a really, really, exceptionally bad play.
especially since nobody had been peeked at the time.
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