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For anybody interested, here is where it all went wrong 
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[23/05/2012 2:08:11] drazerk: no its fine
[23/05/2012 2:08:14] drazerk: I still have to rhyme
[23/05/2012 2:08:17] drazerk: not like its the annoying part
[23/05/2012 2:08:38] drazerk: wanna keep going on like this until I get super powers?
[23/05/2012 2:08:42] drazerk: I presume I get more and more
[23/05/2012 2:08:50] Andrew Koster: you still can't die?
[23/05/2012 2:08:53] drazerk: Nope
[23/05/2012 2:09:01] drazerk: and its in sudden death
[23/05/2012 2:09:04] drazerk: just say no night actions
[23/05/2012 2:09:06] drazerk: :D
[23/05/2012 2:09:16] Andrew Koster: nah, i can shoot hassy in the face!
[23/05/2012 2:09:23] Hassybaby TL Mafia: I MASON ACRO AND BISHOP MYSELF
[23/05/2012 2:09:24] drazerk: lol it would be perfect
[23/05/2012 2:09:26] drazerk: :D
[23/05/2012 2:09:30] Hassybaby TL Mafia: bastards
[23/05/2012 2:09:30] drazerk: troll one more day?
[23/05/2012 2:09:54] Andrew Koster: you can't mason me, i'm masoning you already
[23/05/2012 2:11:00] drazerk: yo hassy
[23/05/2012 2:11:02] Hassybaby TL Mafia: do it!
[23/05/2012 2:11:02] drazerk: bishop acro
[23/05/2012 2:11:06] drazerk: ill arch bishop im
[23/05/2012 2:11:06] Hassybaby TL Mafia: wait ok
[23/05/2012 2:11:13] drazerk: mods have to give the results
[23/05/2012 2:11:14] drazerk: twice
[23/05/2012 2:11:15] Andrew Koster: i want to bishop myself
[23/05/2012 2:11:19] drazerk: :D
[23/05/2012 2:11:25] drazerk: no KP
[23/05/2012 2:11:29] drazerk: single vote lynch from hassy
[23/05/2012 2:11:30] drazerk: kills me
[23/05/2012 2:12:07] Hassybaby TL Mafia: MWAHAHAHAHAHA
[23/05/2012 2:12:24] drazerk: only hassy can kill me
[23/05/2012 2:12:25] drazerk: rofl
[23/05/2012 2:12:38] Andrew Koster: actually i can imperial lynch you in the face
[23/05/2012 2:12:43] Andrew Koster: and shoot you 3 times at night
[23/05/2012 2:13:13] drazerk: well true
[23/05/2012 2:14:03] Andrew Koster: okay, i'm sending in no night actions. lets troll the mods, lol
[23/05/2012 2:14:16] Hassybaby TL Mafia: by mods...you mean toad
[23/05/2012 2:14:18] Hassybaby TL Mafia: :D
[23/05/2012 2:14:23] Andrew Koster: yes
[23/05/2012 2:16:17] drazerk: He is trolling in IRC
[23/05/2012 2:16:18] drazerk: get him
[23/05/2012 2:18:59] Andrew Koster: did you two send in actions? I want to go to bed
[23/05/2012 2:19:04] drazerk: Yeah
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On May 24 2012 16:53 Acrofales wrote:LOL. Oh, Hassy, you truly were a traitor this game :D In other news, I found a picture of Forumite and Opz on the interwebz! ![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ep0ncjyW-dU/SqKIWFOhxSI/AAAAAAAAFx0/bV9MnhP2_oI/s400/muppet-show.jpg)
What is wrong with you? You screwed up and lost us the game, why are you acting like an ass?
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On May 24 2012 17:42 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 16:53 Acrofales wrote:LOL. Oh, Hassy, you truly were a traitor this game :D In other news, I found a picture of Forumite and Opz on the interwebz! What is wrong with you? You screwed up and lost us the game, why are you acting like an ass?
Because you two are acting like butthurt little babies. It's a game. I gave away what could have been a victory, partially due to misplaced trust in Drazerk, partially due to trolling and partially due to not knowing about ninja-changes in the mechanics and being overconfident about it. Hassy and I screwed up on the last day. Until that time, you, S&B, Zelblade and Opz were the only (other) townies taking the game even partially seriously, and of those, Zelblade was by far the most useful, with S&B a close second.
Your filter is nowhere near good enough to be all incriminatory to me and Opz's is even worse. Yet, you two are the two giving me the most flak over my lategame play, while Zelblade took it with grace and S&B is giving justified and somewhat constructive criticism. You and Opz, however, are acting like grumpy old men who did nothing until the very last second and then wine that we didn't win the game. You're a great backseat driver!
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What does it matter what my filter looks like if it got me to the endgame looking like town? I always took the game seriously and played to win. I´ve lost games, I think the count is 3 games where I was Town and lost the game for my team, but in none of those games did I try to screw town over, I always play to win. In this game, you hoarded all the power to yourself so that none of us could do anything even if we wanted to, and you blame the loss on us?
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On May 24 2012 19:24 Forumite wrote:
What does it matter what my filter looks like if it got me to the endgame looking like town? I always took the game seriously and played to win. I´ve lost games, I think the count is 3 games where I was Town and lost the game for my team, but in none of those games did I try to screw town over, I always play to win. In this game, you hoarded all the power to yourself so that none of us could do anything even if we wanted to, and you blame the loss on us?
No. I don't blame the loss on you. I blame the DRAW on me and Hassy. I blame you for acting all butthurt about it.
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On May 24 2012 19:28 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:24 Forumite wrote:
What does it matter what my filter looks like if it got me to the endgame looking like town? I always took the game seriously and played to win. I´ve lost games, I think the count is 3 games where I was Town and lost the game for my team, but in none of those games did I try to screw town over, I always play to win. In this game, you hoarded all the power to yourself so that none of us could do anything even if we wanted to, and you blame the loss on us? No. I don't blame the loss on you. I blame the DRAW on me and Hassy. I blame you for acting all butthurt about it.
Of course I´m angry, we trusted you to win the game for us, but you lost it due to a stupid mistake you shouldn´t have made, and now you act like you are the hero of town.
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To be fair Acrofales, after 150 pages of game, the least townies could expect you to do is finish the game off instead of trolling and giving it away.
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On May 24 2012 19:41 Drazerk wrote:
IT WAS A DRAW!
But Town didn´t win when we were so close to winning.
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On May 24 2012 19:41 Drazerk wrote:
IT WAS A DRAW!
A draw when you have the win 100% isn't very satisfying.
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guys
leave it
you said your piece. there's nothing more to it.
this is a caller game. caller might as well have come in here, invent a new faction, put himself in it, and then make that faction the sole winner. these are just colored letters on an internet sub forum. acrofales heard you out. now drop it and move on.
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On May 24 2012 19:56 prplhz wrote:
guys
leave it
you said your piece. there's nothing more to it.
this is a caller game. caller might as well have come in here, invent a new faction, put himself in it, and then make that faction the sole winner. these are just colored letters on an internet sub forum. acrofales heard you out. now drop it and move on.
It´s a Caller game but this wasn´t a Bastard-Mod situation, it was the town leader dropping it all for no reason, this could have happened in any other game and I´d still be just as angry. And no, I´ve said my piece but Acro hasn´t heard me, he doesn´t appear to understand that there is anything to be angry about. Yes, it´s just a game, but when in the game I play to win, and being cheated out of a town win by a fellow townie sucks.
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It wasn't a bastard game for YOU forumite
for me and Acro it was a bastard game.
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On May 24 2012 20:09 Drazerk wrote:
It wasn't a bastard game for YOU forumite
for me and Acro it was a bastard game.
I´m not mad at you, Drazerk, scum are allowed to be bastards, but Acro was Town and Emperor, and pushed Town into trusting him and following his lead the whole game long, he shouldn´t have turned around at the end.
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I don't think he did that on purpose. From what I heard he thought the game was won and he even asked me why drazerk was still alive after the 2 lynches because he didn't understand what happened.
He didn't account for a weird role like that and thought he's safe either way. He could have ended it with doublelynching Drazerk before Drazerk was Empress but he didn't because he thought it's a town win anyways and probably wanted to play safe and therefore just lynch both of you, foru and Drazerk because Acro and Hassy were both confirmed town.
If he had made it the other way around Drazerk would have died to the emperor lynch and foru to the majority lynch.
If he had double lynched, Drazerk would have died as well.
That's all somewhat understandable. The only thing you could really blame him for is the fact that he did not shoot Drazerk the night Hassy died to find out about Drazerks made up super powers. But than again other people played stupid, not caring about the game as well it just happened to be the last day Acro made that mistake, no matter why.
If some of the other trolls would have not trolled you would have had one misslynch less and the situation would have never occured in the first place because you would have had one day more without one useless ML. I still think that's equally bad and the only reason people don't bash those people is because they did it in a time when it was not clear wether or not town had lost or won the game but it's still equally "anti-town" for your faction to not care about the game like that.
They just don't get heat because you can't blame them for one specific event like you are blaming Acro for right now.
We did our best as co-hosts to make sure everyone understands the game and in the end it worked out well but not perfect.
Acro thought he had 3 lifes because of the 3 night lifes and thought he could shoot Drazerk while surviving himself because Mattchew ended up getting the +1 life from the other knight guy.
That happened because Mattchew ended up getting the +1 life after the lynch but the moment that happened we thought it's kinda imba.
So we made it lifes don't regenerate which basicly means if the guy has already lost his 2nd life you don't get a 2nd life when you get a new role. Basicly if the guy was lynched without being shot you get +1 life, if the guy was shot to death or lynched while not having a 2nd life you don't get a 2nd life.
And later we changed it to you don't get the 2nd life at all because it would be still to imba to have someone running around with 4 potential lifes.
I was pretty sure he was informed about it but turned out he was not, so it's partially my fault as well because I apparently failed to make that clear 
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Red team wins,
there i settled it, you all suck
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Drazerks weird powers and the disappearance of Acros nightlives threw us off, true, but that was after. Acro should have just shot Drazerk after we failed to lynch him that time, that is the critical mistake Acro made, and it lost us the game.
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If it's true that the role PMs acro got told him that he had the extra night lives when he actually didn't, that's a pretty extreme case of bastard modding. You're straight up lying to the player, although it wasn't on purpose.
Still, I disagree with you that the other players who trolled were as bad. If we had one less mislynch I think the game would have played out exactly the same way, except maybe with one more night action during your little lightning round at the end there.
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On May 24 2012 22:51 Mattchew wrote:
Red team wins,
there i settled it, you all suck
Fairly sure you lost 
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I was busy writing a long post explaining myself yet again, but hadn't posted it. It's basically exactly what Toad said.
EDIT: well, almost exactly what Toad said. I could never be 100% sure about Hassy either, because he might have been a godfather. Nevertheless, when there were three of us left, I figured it was probably Drazerk and I *should* have shot him with my double-shot, but I felt pretty invulnerable with my 4 lives, 2 assassins and 2 NKs, so when the conversation linked above happened, I thought it would be rather funny (and honestly didn't think it would affect the game at all: either Drazerk had actually gotten superpowers from the lynch and could kill me right then and there, or he hadn't and didn't matter what night I killed him).
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