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SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 16:36 GMT
#220
@radfield If I remember correctly you had some theory about how scum players usually enter the thread. Didn't it produce any good reads so far? Also is VE really your best bet for scum at this point?
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 16:51 GMT
#221
On April 24 2012 01:04 Radfield wrote:
I'm not going to have time to post now, and likely won't be around until an hour or two before the deadline. Don't expect much from me in the way of leading a lynch.

As far as VE goes, he still has not commented since I put my vote down. My intention was simply to apply pressure and see how he reacted, but he has not posted/reacted at all. At this point I'm willing to keep my vote there.

I don't think zentor is scum.

On April 24 2012 01:18 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 22:58 Bluelightz wrote:
On April 23 2012 21:20 strongandbig wrote:
Kenpachi method? Apparently it's foolproof!


....... Its not the Kenpachi method if said person doesn't do this literally EVERY game. I believe this because VE does this very rarely. Also, heads up, USELESS! POST!




Not true. I was caught by BC using the Kenpachi method in SS mafia.

I'm starting to really wonder what's up with VE, it seems very out of character for it to take him this long to respond to this set of accusations, whether he's town or scum. I actually feel like we should not lynch him for lurking, but we maybe should wait and see what his explanation is. He has to post his vote sometime in the next six hours or risk a modkill anyway.


Here's a post VE did in our mafia QT in LI and we both were mafia. Context is the following: Katina does a case on me that imo was and still is bullshit. Nothin she pointed out was alignment indicating. She basicly said "Toad is posting walls of texts and is weird". I said in our Mafia QT that I don't care, noone listens to Katina and what she says.
Here's how VE responded in our mafia QT:
Like look at it this way: if "no one listens to Katina" and what she said was "utter bullshit" and "doesn't make you look scummy at all"....then why did it take THREE paragraphs for you to say that? Why go to the trouble if you're town? She's wrong and seeing your effort in scumhunting, she'll see that she's wrong if you just ignore her nonsense and look for scum. This is a townie mindset. Punching her in the face and saying "You're wrong I'm town bitch!" isn't.

Now please - just watch how you post. Whether or not Katina can argue that you're scum, she NOTICED that you're scum. If she can, Bugs can. And so can Jackal. And they can both get you lynched. This is the last time I'm going to ask you before I bus you and earn infinity town-cred. You have been warned.


That's really important because the big part has 2 major phrases in there:
1) People saying "I don't think VE would ignore what's going on for so long if he's mafia". I think I just showed that he would if he thinks there's no danger. He even told me to do that last game. Agree anyone?
2) Scumhunting. I don't see that at all.

So I really think he's mafia at this point and nothing that was presented is a towntell at all because frankly he DOES that as mafia as well.

On the signing matter, Sandrobas and my style really are pretty easy to distinguish howver if you see a post that's not signed just assume it's Sandroba because I'm trying to do that every time and will do an EBWOP if I forget to sign my post.

--- Toad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 17:01 GMT
#224
@VE can you tell me what you think of forumite too?
-sandroba
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 17:24 GMT
#228
##Unvote VisceraEyes
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 17:26 GMT
#229
On April 24 2012 01:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Toad....oh hypnoToad. Toad's case (that he has asked multiple people to comment on) is based on my desire to take up a leadership role "based on my recent successes"...but what Toad isn't taking into account is my recent failures as well (prplhz in Space Station Mafia and Cyber_Cheese in SoAF come to mind). I have NO desire to lead town at this juncture, because I don't feel like my play qualifies me anymore. Not to mention, look at the playerlist bro. LOOK AT IT!!! Do you think I even COULD lead this town anywhere? Nah dude. Not happening.

You want comment - your case is abysmal Toad, and it's based on how you think I want to play mafia. You'd better think again pal...I'm not scum.

Now, scum.

VisceraEyes Lynch-List of Lurking Lethargy

Sbrubbles - Where the dicks is Sbrubbles anyway?

Ace - Ace has shown decent activity this game, but very little actual scumhunting. Concerned about his plan for D2, but doesn't seem very interested in what's going on today, D1.

Radfield - Radfield's really only here because not only was his vote for me not explained (verily, even when requested), but justifies it by my lack of response. Sounds like an excuse to park his vote and not scumhunt to me, and I don't like it.

##Vote: Ace

Unless we decide that we'd rather lynch a lurker, in which case I prefer Sbrubbles. I wouldn't mind that actually, because between the two I think I prefer Sbrubbles...but I don't think I can get a wagon rolling on a lurker at this point. Based on the fact that my scumreads are weak as hell after rereading (those who know me will notice a distinct lack of red text), I think scum are putting in way less effort than most everyone who's posting.



As an aside, if voting is done in this thread, could we trouble the hosts for periodic vote-counts?


I'm fine with that for now. I still think you're suspicious but I don't really think you're the best option for now.
Still considering what the best course of action is right now.

--- Toad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 17:39 GMT
#232
@phagga You clearly have been here for the past couple hours. Any comments besides lol and vote count plx?

@VE not really, I prefer optimal play specially day1 when evidence is flimsy. I actually would rather lynch rad then the other 2, but it's again non optimal.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 19:01 GMT
#239
On April 24 2012 03:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 02:39 SamuelLJackson wrote:
@phagga You clearly have been here for the past couple hours. Any comments besides lol and vote count plx?

@VE not really, I prefer optimal play specially day1 when evidence is flimsy. I actually would rather lynch rad then the other 2, but it's again non optimal.


But optimal play was lynching me?

Whatever mang. Here, let me entice you further.

##Unvote: Ace
##Vote: Sbrubbles

I actually feel better about this.


no optimal play was getting town away from discussing masons over and over again, to finally get people talking about their reads instead. Especially make Ace and forumite stop talking about masons all the time while pressuring you to force you into caring about the game :p
I wasn't sure if I should vote forumite or VE at that time to get that and ended up voting you because I already mentioned you before and also mentioned what I thought about you. You know, more to discuss than "btw forumite looks like mafia".

That being said a Sbrubbles lynch is not going to happen imo, I don't even see why you think he is scummy other than being a lurker when I think there's other players around who are somewhat lurkish themselves (hey there marv) and actually look way different then the last game.
Why sbrubbles of all the people?

Also if I am correct the deadline is already in 3 hours. At least that's what the OP tells me.

--- Toad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 19:02 GMT
#240
lol snarfs ninja-ing me hardcore
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 20:33 GMT
#260
Sandro is not arround right now but it looks like forumite is not going to happen?

Marv is the best Plan B we have imo. Not really sure about him but he definitely looks really bad. If a Rad or forumite lynch is possible as well I'd swap for that, but pretty much nothing else right now. Ace would be a decent option as well as he basicly stopped posting ever since we stopped posting about the mason thing. Remember, that's a topic that's really easy to talk about for mafia as well but I have no idea what Sandroba thinks about Ace right now.

##vote marvellosity

If Sandroba gets in here we might talk this over together but it's only 1,5 hours left

--- Toad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 20:50 GMT
#262
On April 24 2012 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
I knew the end of the day would go this way. Every single Day 1 I've had I've looked bad; apparently this is something I'm seriously going to have to work on - I just haven't mastered the knack of manufacturing content when there is little material yet.

We're gonna drift into that lovely situation where town's gonna lynch me although no-one really thinks I'm scum, and everyone will be like "well, that kinda sucks, but hey ho whatcha gonna do"

Come on with posts like
On April 24 2012 04:21 marvellosity wrote:
s&b's effort on Snarfs is the best I've seen so far, and due to my own failure to make good scum-reads, that will be where my vote will rest atm.

##Vote: Snarfs


it really isn't looking good for you because you look really weird. I don't think you're the best lynch for today but you're basicly refusing to do something yourself. Look at zentor for example. That guy is terrible but I'm not going to lynch him (at least not today).

It's not the fact that you're not posting. According to VE that's the reason you're up for the lynch but there's stuff within your posts (just like i mentioned) tmaking you a way better lynch than people like Sbrubbles. And it just feels odd what you're showing.
Not as odd and as much of a farce as forumite is pulling on, but I'm fine with what I'm seeing here.

--- Toad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 21:15 GMT
#274
On April 24 2012 06:03 marvellosity wrote:
I would like to note that there has been no opposition to the growing bandwagon of my lynch when clearly scum has had the options to direct the vote almost anywhere with a maximum of 2 votes on any one person.

I still think VE is suspicious however I think he's not the best lynch for today and I want to read more of him.
That being said he posted a list of lurkers telling people to lynch into Sbrubbles and when asked about you he basicly said nothing but "yeah I agree marv is as much of a nullread as sbrubbles is, so I would have no issue voting him or zentor [did he actually mention zentor or was that someone else?] as well". Well it was something along those lines.

That's an incredible amount of nothing while soft-defending you because frankly he tells people to lynch Sbrubbles instead of you, for no particular reason as far as I can see and only agrees to lynch you when being forced / asked about it.

Also what about yourself. You're one of the lurkers, yet you are one of the guys who barely got a mention (if at all) through the first 1,5 days.
According to Sandroba that makes you somewhat more likely to be mafia, because frankly, mafia love to point out lurkers or scummy behavior but noone was talking about you.

Also I don't see VE voting you although he said he doesn't want a no-lynch and is willing to get you lynched as well.

--- Toad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 21:27 GMT
#278
On April 24 2012 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rad made me rethink voting marv - I went back and reread the beginning of his newbie game that I read and he did find himself the victim of early suspicion.

I'm willing to no-lynch in this situation. In my opinion a no-lynch is better than a mislynch in this situation and I'm not confident enough in any of the lurkers anymore - there has been a lot of activity here toward the end, and it's hard to tell if it's because there's a scum candidate or because no one wants a no-lynch or what.

What do you think Toad? Do you think we should lynch a lurker or no-lynch? I'm okay with no-lynching to be frank.


Marv is the way to go if you want a lynch happening. I'm generally in favor of a lynch happening if I think we have a somewhat scummy option and marv is scummy. Just think of what we were talking about in LI in our mafia QT or irc about a no-lynch. Do you want that because you're not 100% certain although you've got a good guess?

I'd say he's a decent Plan-B lynch if we can't get Plan-A to work and surely we can't get Plan-A working.

Man where's Sandroba when you need him

--- Toad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 21:42 GMT
#287
On April 24 2012 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think sandro would advocate a no-lynch in this situation - I could be wrong. He strikes me as a "nolynch>mislynch" kind of guy and marv is looking like mislynch bait to me. :S


doubt the Sandroba part but yeah I could be wrong as well :p
Also Marv is not a mislynch bait. No one was talking about him until just recently because everyone else was aiming for optimal play.
Sandroba and I tried to get forumite or Rad lynched.
You tried to get Ace lynched.
And everyone was pushing for someone else.

Marv is like the one guy who never got a mention although he has been suspicious all game long and lurking all game long while other people (Sbrubbles & Zentor) have been a huge issue troughout the day although I think both are incredible stupid lynches.

--- Toad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 21:49 GMT
#291
you do realize it's only 10 mins left until deadline ace?
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 21:53 GMT
#295
Also @Aces part about me: I mentioned that because people said it's a towntrait. I posted that to show that he does that I know he does that as mafia and I am pretty sure he does it as town as well. Therefore the "if VE were mafia he would be in here and posting" argument was bullshit imo and nothing that stood against my case.

However, VE is not up for lynch right now and you are voting a no-lynch Ace

--- Toad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 21:55 GMT
#298
screw you guys. I'm off to bed..

I'm going to be the guy that yells postgame "TOLD YA"
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 22:04 GMT
#310
On April 24 2012 06:58 marvellosity wrote:
Toad, your point is just terrible. The fact that I wasn't mentioned earlier in the game is extremely circumstancial. There were many non-posters and lurkers at the start of the game

The thing that ISN'T circumstancial is the fact that the lynch on me gently drifted into being without anyone trying to prevent it.

You should be able to discern the difference between the two. Engage logic please.

Although Snarfs only has one vote less than me, I'm going to unvote him and vote for the no-lynch. It has good grounding and with no-one being certain of anything it seems a decent option at this point.

##Unvote
##Vote: No Lynch

Ok I said I'm going to bed but I can't stand this...

Think about C9++. How much people did that game have trying to prevent a Jackal lynch on d1? 0. What did Jackal flip? Mafia
People trying to prevent or not trying to prevent a lynch is not an alignment tell at all and actually there's a SHITLOAD of people trying to prevent your lynch right now ALTHOUGH they said they'd be up for a marv lynch. What kind of mofo action is that supposed to be.

And it's not the point that you weren't mentioned earlier in the game but the fact that you did not get a single mention until 2 hours before the lynch or something like that. That's not "earlier in the game", that basicly the whole day1.

--- Toad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 22:08 GMT
#316
On April 24 2012 07:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 07:04 SamuelLJackson wrote:
On April 24 2012 06:58 marvellosity wrote:
Toad, your point is just terrible. The fact that I wasn't mentioned earlier in the game is extremely circumstancial. There were many non-posters and lurkers at the start of the game

The thing that ISN'T circumstancial is the fact that the lynch on me gently drifted into being without anyone trying to prevent it.

You should be able to discern the difference between the two. Engage logic please.

Although Snarfs only has one vote less than me, I'm going to unvote him and vote for the no-lynch. It has good grounding and with no-one being certain of anything it seems a decent option at this point.

##Unvote
##Vote: No Lynch

Ok I said I'm going to bed but I can't stand this...

Think about C9++. How much people did that game have trying to prevent a Jackal lynch on d1? 0. What did Jackal flip? Mafia
People trying to prevent or not trying to prevent a lynch is not an alignment tell at all and actually there's a SHITLOAD of people trying to prevent your lynch right now ALTHOUGH they said they'd be up for a marv lynch. What kind of mofo action is that supposed to be.

And it's not the point that you weren't mentioned earlier in the game but the fact that you did not get a single mention until 2 hours before the lynch or something like that. That's not "earlier in the game", that basicly the whole day1.

--- Toad


Considerably more people trying to prevent my lynch than there are scum, in fact...


Nah. I'd say VE, forumite and Rad are the ones preventing your lynch. The new guys who unvoted whoever they voted before that are sheeping after seeing 3 vets saying no-lynch is the best course of action and Ace comming in here having no clue at all what happened the whole damn day.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 23 2012 22:10 GMT
#317
Anyways, THAT's really it for me now, I'm off to bed, cya later...

--- Toad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 24 2012 06:48 GMT
#342
On April 24 2012 07:11 Ace wrote:
Just because I was late and didn't agree with a quick lynch of marvellosity/Zentor doesn't mean I didn't understand what I read.

Are you telling me you preparded that post earlier the day to only post it 10 mins before the deadline?
Or are you pissed about me calling you clueless or whatever I called you yesterday, when you arrived 10 mins before deadline making it look like you have not read the last couple of pages before that happened, forcing you to read through them really quick, post something really quick, which was after all a suprisingly big post considering your "fuck, need to post, need to vote, no modkill, fast"-situation you were in and vote something really quick.

Anyways have to leave again really quick :p

--- Toad
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