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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On April 24 2012 08:46 johnnywup wrote: I think the "Sorry, your case is weak. Too weak. And when a case is so weak, it is usually wrong. Food for thought." was referring to me and my case against him, marv Sigh, it's called sarcasm/irony dear. | ||
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
If you flip town I will literally eat my hat. IRL. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Hqgo2.png) -Blazinghand | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On April 24 2012 08:41 johnnywup wrote: I'm not gonna take the afk excuse. i dont think its "lucky" that you got back moments before when you thought the lynch was gonna happen. I think you wanted to vote at the last second to avoid a modkill and solidify a lynch on VE. You flipped completely 180. Yeah the games about convincing, but are your opinions really that flimsy? Take a stance. If your opinions can be changed completely in one post something going on. That's not solid information. We don't have any idea who scum is based on his flip. So how does that help? You said "Should you flip JK, we got something solid to work from". We don't have anything solid to work from. And that quote is actually a scum tell to me. The "Should you flip JK" tone seemed like you already knew how he was going to flip. At the very least you didn't sound confident he would flip scum. So he didn't post his reads before he died, what a jerk right? That didn't make him scum. Just because you would do something like that doesn't make you town. The point is we're back at square one, and while the people on his lynch are more likely scum than the rest, like I said to layabout, we don't know where to start. You're right. It wasn't necessarily luck. I actually opened my phone in the middle of the road about 10min from 8pm(which is actually 7pm EDT), and logged in to vote. In fact, my post was just so it wouldn't be called 'ninja' voting. I arrived in 10min +- and saw that we still had a hour. I didn't flip completely 180, that would only be true if I said I was sure VE was town beforehand. I was about to post that I thought VE was town, but that doesn't make it 100%. I'd say it's more of a 45º turn, into an extra 45º after he didn't post anything. No, I wasn't confident he would flip scum in that specific post. I was confident later on the day, when I voted him(and didn't have much thoughts on other people). Look at times. Now please tell me how much more information we would get from lynching, say, Bill Murray. At least we confirmed that VE made a bad play and we have a list of players to work on. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On April 24 2012 08:37 BlazingJitsu wrote: I feel no need whatsoever to address the atrocity against human reason you call a case. -Blazinghand I never called it a case. I never said "you wanted to get VE lynched" I posted that you said you would address VE but that you made no attempt to defend him until it was too late, i think this is because you didn't want to stop him being lynched. I have said that you are tunneling marv to avoid giving real opinions or making any real contributions. Furthermore if marv flip's town then you are able to back out of every other accusation that you have made* because they would no longer be valid. They are the primary causes for my suspicion. Also, many of the reason's behind your accusations are preposterous. + Show Spoiler + i cannot go into detail now as it's 1 am and i have to be up in a few hours *i have not looked for a counter example i am mostly referring to your accusations against paqman and mignightgladius | ||
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
On April 24 2012 08:51 layabout wrote: I never called it a case. I never said "you wanted to get VE lynched" I posted that you said you would address VE but that you made no attempt to defend him until it was too late, i think this is because you didn't want to stop him being lynched. I have said that you are tunneling marv to avoid giving real opinions or making any real contributions. Furthermore if marv flip's town then you are able to back out of every other accusation that you have made* because they would no longer be valid. They are the primary causes for my suspicion. Also, many of the reason's behind your accusations are preposterous. + Show Spoiler + i cannot go into detail now as it's 1 am and i have to be up in a few hours *i have not looked for a counter example i am mostly referring to your accusations against paqman and mignightgladius You cannot go into detail? You ARE aware daybreak is in like 10 minutes? As a town player, I don't know I'll be alive in 10 minutes. What makes you so sure? You scum? -Blazinghand | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Tell town your thoughts on marvellosity right now. | ||
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
On April 24 2012 08:55 Zephirdd wrote: Also wtf is with johny and marv buddying up like that. johny, what happened to your vote on marvellosity? You went from "marv is scum"(voting him) to "leaning to Bill" to "zeph is scum"? Tell town your thoughts on marvellosity right now. Don't worry literally everyone except you and me thinks marv is some untouchable angel of extreme towniness -Blazinghand | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
He was def scummy early on but he's made up for it. Probably because he was pressured by BJ. He could just be bad initially and was pushed to play better. Overall I'm neutral on him. And how is it buddying for both players thinking the same person is scum | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On April 24 2012 08:52 BlazingJitsu wrote: In this post BH yet against avoids addressing the issue but he does make a wild accusation that is, "silly" at best. He is doing this to make himself look aggressive and confident so that people will have faith in him or think that he is townYou cannot go into detail? You ARE aware daybreak is in like 10 minutes? As a town player, I don't know I'll be alive in 10 minutes. What makes you so sure? You scum? -Blazinghand | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
On April 24 2012 08:59 layabout wrote: In this post BH yet against avoids addressing the issue but he does make a wild accusation that is, "silly" at best. He is doing this to make himself look aggressive and confident so that people will have faith in him or think that he is town In this post Layabout avoids addressing the issue but he does be worthless -Blazinghand | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On April 24 2012 08:57 johnnywup wrote: I made a case on you zeph. I don't have to do what you tell me. But I will anyways. He was def scummy early on but he's made up for it. Probably because he was pressured by BJ. He could just be bad initially and was pushed to play better. Overall I'm neutral on him. And how is it buddying for both players thinking the same person is scum If two players thing the same person is scum, then this is what is happening. a> Target is scum and both players are town b> Target is scum and one of the players is bussing him c> Target is town and both players are wrong d> Target is town and one of the players is scum e> Target is town and both players are scum I believe d or e is happening. In either case, that means you must believe marv is town OR you both are scum. If you don't believe marv is town, then suddenly I can't possibly be scum. Ofc there is the "buss" possibility, but that would be beyond ridiculous. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On April 24 2012 09:00 BlazingJitsu wrote: In this post Layabout avoids addressing the issue but he does be worthless -Blazinghand Since the issue is "Blazinghand respond to my argument" you are the only one that can address it. Oh and i think zeph is not scummy. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On April 24 2012 09:01 Zephirdd wrote: If two players thing the same person is scum, then this is what is happening. a> Target is scum and both players are town b> Target is scum and one of the players is bussing him c> Target is town and both players are wrong d> Target is town and one of the players is scum e> Target is town and both players are scum I believe d or e is happening. In either case, that means you must believe marv is town OR you both are scum. If you don't believe marv is town, then suddenly I can't possibly be scum. Ofc there is the "buss" possibility, but that would be beyond ridiculous. ? | ||
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
On April 24 2012 09:02 layabout wrote: Since the issue is "Blazinghand respond to my argument" you are the only one that can address it. Oh and i think zeph is not scummy. The other issue is "how does layabout know he wont' be shot" -Blazinghand | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On April 24 2012 08:50 Mattchew wrote: posting reads before deadline... have to shit real bad so brb in like 20 Wait... how the hell do you brand Risen green because of "town meta"? I think his aggressive-defensive bipolarity kinda ruined that aspect. If anything makes him green is that he backed VE till the end. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
At the time of voting VE i was unsure of myself because his play made next to no sense as either alignment*. It was his refusal to answer questions that was the eventual tipping point for me. It seems that this was also the case for zeph. *Also that is why i hate these it makes no sense as mafia arguments. It made no sense as town either, we shouldn't give a player the benefit of the doubt for being anti-town. | ||
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