Oh yeah, BM please step up your game. I don't really think your ninja-vote makes you "auto-scum", but damn it doesn't make you look good.

I agreed with ghost that it's more likely you are town, or it's just something completely irrelevant to your alignment and you do it just because it's crazy and that's how you roll.
But a lot of people (maybe even scum) may try to lynch you (if you are town) so start contributing.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 24 2012 00:56 GMT

#942

So, this is my proposed scumteam for now:

Daniel, Zephird, Sentinel, Risen

At any rate, take out Risen and put BM, Brood, or maybe even sloosh in his place.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 24 2012 01:01 GMT

#943

Oh another thing:

I'm not really that convinced layabout is town. I mean, the tone of his posts, his activity, etc make it seem that way. However I don't really know any game he was scum, and apparently he's a good player (could be considered a "vet" of sorts perhaps) so he could play this good as scum (because I don't see him contributing that much either).

If someone could give me a link to a game he was scum I'd be great.

(also, where the hell is the Day post? lol)

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

April 24 2012 01:04 GMT

#944

He was scum on Purgatory Mafia and went undetected from a pretty long time until BH begun trying some indirect interactions with the Demons and he got frustrated about it, revealing himself.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603

And yeah, day post is delayed. a lot.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 24 2012 01:11 GMT

#945

Geez people this place is deserted, thanks for letting me quadruple-post

Here's something interesting I found:

On April 23 2012 09:53 Zephirdd wrote:
because it's fun to create a scumlist prior doing any analysis or whatsoever,
MidnightGladius
marvellosity
PaqMan
--insert unknown scum here--
List done out of pure feelings and zero evidence or analysis and should not be taken seriously at all

Also, may I remind you that my vote was completely and ultimately worthless, as in, even if I didn't vote VE would die. Also, keep this in your mind: if I knew VE was going to die already, and if I already knew he was a JK(as in, if I was scum), why the fuck would I instantly jump right at the deadline and put a worthless vote on him when I could simply vote, say, marvellosity?

Suddenly, I'm not looking that bad anymore, am I?

Also I agree with BMurray being vigged. I'm not sure if he is town or scum, but it would be better if he just died and we didn't had to care about him anymore.

Please Zephird tell us, if you were scum, why would you vote marvellosity?
If you were scum, and marvellosity was scum, then placing a vote on marv could get him lynched right? I mean, you posted like 1 or more hours before the deadline, a wagon on marv could have been created there.

So, are you saying that if you were scum, then marvellosity would be town and you would put a vote on another townie other than VE?
How would you know this?

Oh I know, you are scum, and you know marv is town.

So, anyways, it's subtle enough that it may or may not be important (I hate having my reads dependant on "scumslips"); but because it's subtle, I know it's something scum would not notice.
Either way, a townie could have done it as well, but considering I think you are scum even not taking it into account I doubt it.

Also, you are saying that voting VE at the last minute instead of voting marvellosity...makes it more likely you are town?

Geez, when was the last time I heard something similar like that?

Oh right, here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=325046&currentpage=57#1130

Again, not something decisive, but something I noticed.

PRE-EDIT: Oh well,.... lol thanks Zephird (what timing!)

Here is the filter from layabout in Purgatory Mafia if anybody's interesting (I'll read it later):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=233798

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

April 24 2012 01:16 GMT

#946

It was one hour before the deadline, there wouldn't be any bandwagon.

Besides, I suggested marv there because people had been voting him. In that specific post, I hadn't had analyzed people yet. I meant that marvellosity was a reasonable player to place a vote on and not look bad for voting VE.

There was nothing wrong there.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 24 2012 01:18 GMT

#947

On April 24 2012 10:16 Zephirdd wrote:
It was one hour before the deadline, there wouldn't be any bandwagon.

Besides, I suggested marv there because people had been voting him. In that specific post, I hadn't had analyzed people yet. I meant that marvellosity was a reasonable player to place a vote on and not look bad for voting VE.

There was nothing wrong there.

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

April 24 2012 01:19 GMT

#948

johnny, I hope you understand that analyzing =/= reading the voting thread

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 24 2012 01:20 GMT

#949

i hope you understand that you just claimed scum.

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

April 24 2012 01:21 GMT

#950

Let me just place a palm in my face in the hopes that you realize how much of a bad logic that was.

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 24 2012 01:24 GMT

#951

On April 24 2012 10:21 Zephirdd wrote:
Let me just place a palm in my face in the hopes that you realize how much of a bad logic that was.

the more you tell me what to think about your vote and how you did nothing wrong (with and even without pressure about it) the scummier you look.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 24 2012 01:27 GMT

#952

Whatever, Sentinel should be lynched first though.
If Zephirdd were to be town (he's my weakest scum read from the Daniel/Sentinel/Zephirdd combo), then scum will have a field day lynching him tomorrow.

So no, Sentinel goes down tomorrow, so people go back and reread my case.

Just in case you guys missed them, these are all my posts from tonight (the important ones):

The Risen conundrum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=44#876
Case against Sentinel: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#925
Thoughts on other players: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#935
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#937
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#940

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 24 2012 01:30 GMT

#953

On April 24 2012 10:27 gonzaw wrote:
Whatever, Sentinel should be lynched first though.
If Zephirdd were to be town (he's my weakest scum read from the Daniel/Sentinel/Zephirdd combo), then scum will have a field day lynching him tomorrow.

So no, Sentinel goes down tomorrow, so people go back and reread my case.

Just in case you guys missed them, these are all my posts from tonight (the important ones):

The Risen conundrum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=44#876
Case against Sentinel: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#925
Thoughts on other players: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#935
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#937
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#940

So we don't punish ninja voters? fuck this shit. lynch fucking BM

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 24 2012 01:30 GMT

#954

sorry for swearing, it wasn't at anyone in particular

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 24 2012 01:33 GMT

#955

No, we don't punish people if that means potentially losing us the game.
We should lynch to win, not lynch to punish.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 24 2012 01:35 GMT

#956

But seriously, wheres the day post?

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 24 2012 01:38 GMT

#957

Vigs, if any of you exist now it's a good time to claim as any (I assume scum can't change their kill by now).

Oh, forgot about another thing:

About johnny:

To be honest, I think he's town.
At the start of the game, he was very eager to discuss the plans and things about the vigs and shit. He posts without fear, wants people to answer to him (for instance about his "plan"), etc; and I doubt he would do that as scum.
He's active and when people call him out he's there to respond.
He posts some one-liners and some filler posts, but given his activity those are just a part of his filter, and considering he posts quite a lot it makes it seem he's eager to post.

Yeah maybe he flip-flops on his votes, or with his reads, or sheeps people, but well he's been doing that all these past few games, and that doesn't mean he's scum.

So no, add him to the "He WON'T get lynched on D2" list.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

April 24 2012 01:41 GMT

#958

Fuck, have to push back my reply to tomorrow early morning.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 24 2012 01:42 GMT

#959

Wait:

On April 24 2012 08:48 BlazingJitsu wrote:
As an aside to Marv, you're scum and I'm gonna make sure you die like scum.

If you flip town I will literally eat my hat. IRL.

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