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On April 24 2012 07:38 layabout wrote:
"I pledge to stop swearing for the rest of the game in the hope that we will all be nicer to each other"
- layabout
BH is trying to get town cred from the lynch even though he ignored VE until it was too late for him to stop the lynch.
We should lynch BlazingJitsu tomorrow.
If St. Daniel is posting in another game but not this one even though this started first then there must be a reason for this. It seems likely that this reason is that he rolled scum and is frightened to post.
Are you fucking kidding me? By what unfathomable absence of reason do you think I wanted VE to get lynched? I literally did everything I could to get Marv lynched.
-Blazinghand
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On April 24 2012 08:24 johnnywup wrote:
Why don't you make cases so you don't have to vote at the last minute to avoid getting modkilled?
and:
how can one post make you flip 180 and think ve is scum from thinking he is town.
what solid information do we have to work from from him flipping jk
how can you take him NOT posting as him claiming scum.
What the fuck is this.
I was afk most of the time I didn't have time for a fucking case, I didn't have time to analyze other players and I could post at that time by luck(although I guess I ended up with an extra hour, but not enough to change my opinion on the matter).
Where the f* did I flip 180? You mean layabout thing? How about you open the freaking thread and read about it? Like, his post is right before mine. It convinced me; that's what this game is about isn't it? Convincing people?
Martyr post from him didn't help either.
Want solid information? What about look at the list of people who were screaming their asses off about how sure we shouldn't vote him and how sure they were that he was town? That's a start. But it would be better if he actually gave us more than a fucking four player list that says nothing. If I'm getting lynched, I(should) post a list of reads to help town look at my town-confirmed perspective after my flip. That's what every town player that realizes he will be lynched should do. VE didn't do that, which made me believe he was scum 'till the very end.
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Bad timing for that swearing Blazing :x
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On April 24 2012 08:32 johnnywup wrote:
Bad timing for that swearing Blazing :x
I didn't insult anyone. I've toned it down quite a bit actually. The insulting part of my post is the part where I imply an "unfathomable absence of reason"-- but I consider it within normal bounds of TL Mafia play.
-Blazinghand.
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On April 24 2012 05:34 slOosh wrote:
Marv: thoughts on MidnightGladius and Zephirdd
Now I did MG, Zephirdd too. His filter mainly gets a bit more interesting in the second half. The first section of his filter he says a lot of the things I thought about the VE lynch. Namely stuff like:
On April 23 2012 08:38 Zephirdd wrote:
Yet you guys are doing exactly what a scum fake-claimer would want you to: just unvote him ezpz, he gave up the game and is being useless but hey he is JK amirite?
"other scummy suspects" is subjective when I consider VE the scummiest after what has happened. I can't believe people are actually defending a martyring day 1 blue claimer that gave up, when his claim makes no fucking sense or whatsoever.
On April 23 2012 08:56 Zephirdd wrote:
May I remind you that he said himself that the reason to claim wasn't the pressure, but to stop a plan that wasn't going through. Which only makes his claim worse.
Alright, good. The second half of his filter is a goldmine though. He flip-flops in so many ways against me I'm having problem formatting it. Let's give it a go. Somewhat before the deadline:
On April 23 2012 08:38 Zephirdd wrote:
Although I'm tempted to switch my "lastmin" vote(which seems to not be last min at all) to marv after what Risen pointed out. Ofc there is also the general reasons to vote him as pointed out earlier as well.
Ok, here we have tacit support for BH's case. He then kinda retracts it shortly after
On April 23 2012 08:46 Zephirdd wrote:
Also, I'm skimming through marv's filter and I don't see anything glaring in particular, yet that marv/midnight "scumslip"(pointed out by Risen) is very interesting. It could be a coincidence, it could be what Risen said.
So generally a null read now, and then ANOTHER mention of the Risen observation (MG and I asking for deadline times almost simultaneously). Fair enough, let's continue. His next post contained the following 'accident':
On April 23 2012 08:48 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
This is frustrating to me. So we're going to lynch BM just because he's a lurker, and we're gonna save a rage-quitting VE just because he claimed blue? Does town genuinely believes this to be the best play? Now for instance, were VE really JK, this would make marvellosity look incredibly and extremely bad. Why? because fuck yes.
Wow, so his 'inner' thoughts were that VE flipping JK would somehow make me look incredibly bad. What? This is despite him and I making practically identical points on VE on all counts. Again, what? It continues with
On April 23 2012 09:16 Zephirdd wrote:
I'm all into a marv. lynch for the next day given how bad he wanted VE dead. I mean seriously, his latest posts were like a dog drooling at a piece of meat.
I've already posted how stupid it would be for scum to have been so vocally pushing the lynch near the deadline when it seemed fairly clear the lynch was going through anyway. Fine. But how badly I wanted him dead? I was simply around and active, making all the points I thought were strong (yes, sadly incorrect), and to reiterate all the points that he had made about VE as well. It's just unbelievably hypocritical.
A quick segway back to where he TWICE comments on Risen's observation about MG and I posted about the deadline at about the same time, if I may.
On April 23 2012 08:38 Zephirdd wrote:
Although I'm tempted to switch my "lastmin" vote(which seems to not be last min at all) to marv after what Risen pointed out.
On April 23 2012 08:46 Zephirdd wrote:
Also, I'm skimming through marv's filter and I don't see anything glaring in particular, yet that marv/midnight "scumslip"(pointed out by Risen) is very interesting. It could be a coincidence, it could be what Risen said.
On April 24 2012 08:02 Zephirdd wrote:
Sorry, your case is weak. Too weak. And when a case is so weak, it is usually wrong. Food for thought.
Hrrr. Ok, what do we have so far on Zephirdd's kinda-finger-pointing-at-marv. He doesn't see anything particularly scummy in my filter other than some supposed scumslip, but then he kinda wants to lynch me because I wanted VE dead for all the same reasons he did, I was just more vocal about it. For emphasis.
On April 24 2012 08:02 Zephirdd wrote:
Sorry, your case is weak. Too weak. And when a case is so weak, it is usually wrong. Food for thought.
Lastly, he promises us a case on someone. Instead we get a load more wishy-washy finger-pointing.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 24 2012 03:34 Zephirdd wrote:
K I was planning on making a case on someone
But then I realized that there is no point in making a case right now. Instead, I'll just post whatever the fuck is flowing in my mind about the game.
MG strikes scummy to me. I don't know how he switched out of marvellosity into "I think lynching marv would be a terrible mislynch" so easily; especially when marvellosity's posting hasn't been that better. Oh, and I have to be honest here: I was willing to yell OH MY GOD YOU SUCK when he decided I should be lynched tomorrow, given everything that happened. He saw the easy lynch target in me after my "last minute" voting shit and decided it would be easy to push a wagon on me. Oh, and that way he switched out of marv makes me think he was just bussing him.
johny strikes me as a bad town for sheeping the one guy that was voting him. This or MG is town and john is a scared scum; But to be honest he hasn't made much bad on the game so I can't really call him scum; hence 'bad town'. In fact, not even bad, just one bad move tbh.
marvellosity has not made an actual case and went to VE's wagon(along with me). Although this is forgivable, I don't like activity without substance. There is not one scum push made by marvellosity besides VE. He talks about how BH is tunneling him, yet all he did was to talk about VE without caring about making connections or anything. Even now, he is caring about a worthless defense when he should be genuinely attacking someone. Yeah scum
StDaniel inactivity is sad and I don't know if I should call him scum or not; when he has posted on another game(as pointed by someone else), that makes me think he is actually scum afraid of posting - very common considering it's his first TL game.
Bill Murray sounds like a Kenpachi/Palmar mix. Fuck day 1, day 2 is where the action is at eh? At very least he hasn't been disruptive so far. Wouldn't mind a vig shot if he will keep playing like that tho.
Well, I *kinda* have other reads but they are all null or town/null so, there you have it.
Ask Me Anything.
Overall? Zephirdd is looking pretty bloody scummy
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On April 24 2012 08:31 BlazingJitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 07:38 layabout wrote:
"I pledge to stop swearing for the rest of the game in the hope that we will all be nicer to each other"
- layabout
BH is trying to get town cred from the lynch even though he ignored VE until it was too late for him to stop the lynch.
We should lynch BlazingJitsu tomorrow.
If St. Daniel is posting in another game but not this one even though this started first then there must be a reason for this. It seems likely that this reason is that he rolled scum and is frightened to post.
Are you fucking kidding me? By what unfathomable absence of reason do you think I wanted VE to get lynched? I literally did everything I could to get Marv lynched.
-Blazinghand
You haven't addressed anything i have said about you.
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JW, you're a vigi right? If you're shooting into my scumreads, don't shoot Marv, shoot Paq or MG. I think Marv is a GF, not a goon.
-Blazinghand
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On April 24 2012 08:34 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 08:31 BlazingJitsu wrote:On April 24 2012 07:38 layabout wrote:
"I pledge to stop swearing for the rest of the game in the hope that we will all be nicer to each other"
- layabout
BH is trying to get town cred from the lynch even though he ignored VE until it was too late for him to stop the lynch.
We should lynch BlazingJitsu tomorrow.
If St. Daniel is posting in another game but not this one even though this started first then there must be a reason for this. It seems likely that this reason is that he rolled scum and is frightened to post.
Are you fucking kidding me? By what unfathomable absence of reason do you think I wanted VE to get lynched? I literally did everything I could to get Marv lynched.
-Blazinghand You haven't addressed anything i have said about you.
I feel no need whatsoever to address the atrocity against human reason you call a case.
-Blazinghand
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mattchew seriously youre the most anti town town player i've ever met
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On April 24 2012 08:07 Mementoss wrote:
Marv I initially thought this was the case too, but I realized he just took his vote off to make himself look concerned. And ultimately, he put that vote back there with tonnes of showing of why it was a bad idea at the end of the thread, by me Risen and Mattchew. Still looking weird in my eyes.
You've said this twice now, so I'm going to call you up on it. Here is my filter for the voting thread.
On April 22 2012 09:35 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: VisceraEyes
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On April 24 2012 08:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 08:07 Mementoss wrote:
Marv I initially thought this was the case too, but I realized he just took his vote off to make himself look concerned. And ultimately, he put that vote back there with tonnes of showing of why it was a bad idea at the end of the thread, by me Risen and Mattchew. Still looking weird in my eyes. You've said this twice now, so I'm going to call you up on it. Here is my filter for the voting thread.
Why would you do something in the thread but not the voting thread just to screw me up?
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On April 24 2012 08:31 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 08:24 johnnywup wrote:
Why don't you make cases so you don't have to vote at the last minute to avoid getting modkilled?
and:
how can one post make you flip 180 and think ve is scum from thinking he is town.
what solid information do we have to work from from him flipping jk
how can you take him NOT posting as him claiming scum. What the fuck is this. I was afk most of the time I didn't have time for a fucking case, I didn't have time to analyze other players and I could post at that time by luck(although I guess I ended up with an extra hour, but not enough to change my opinion on the matter). Where the f* did I flip 180? You mean layabout thing? How about you open the freaking thread and read about it? Like, his post is right before mine. It convinced me; that's what this game is about isn't it? Convincing people? Martyr post from him didn't help either. Want solid information? What about look at the list of people who were screaming their asses off about how sure we shouldn't vote him and how sure they were that he was town? That's a start. But it would be better if he actually gave us more than a fucking four player list that says nothing. If I'm getting lynched, I(should) post a list of reads to help town look at my town-confirmed perspective after my flip. That's what every town player that realizes he will be lynched should do. VE didn't do that, which made me believe he was scum 'till the very end.
I'm not gonna take the afk excuse. i dont think its "lucky" that you got back moments before when you thought the lynch was gonna happen. I think you wanted to vote at the last second to avoid a modkill and solidify a lynch on VE.
You flipped completely 180. Yeah the games about convincing, but are your opinions really that flimsy? Take a stance. If your opinions can be changed completely in one post something going on.
That's not solid information. We don't have any idea who scum is based on his flip. So how does that help? You said "Should you flip JK, we got something solid to work from". We don't have anything solid to work from. And that quote is actually a scum tell to me. The "Should you flip JK" tone seemed like you already knew how he was going to flip. At the very least you didn't sound confident he would flip scum.
So he didn't post his reads before he died, what a jerk right? That didn't make him scum. Just because you would do something like that doesn't make you town. The point is we're back at square one, and while the people on his lynch are more likely scum than the rest, like I said to layabout, we don't know where to start.
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On April 24 2012 08:40 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 08:39 marvellosity wrote:On April 24 2012 08:07 Mementoss wrote:
Marv I initially thought this was the case too, but I realized he just took his vote off to make himself look concerned. And ultimately, he put that vote back there with tonnes of showing of why it was a bad idea at the end of the thread, by me Risen and Mattchew. Still looking weird in my eyes. You've said this twice now, so I'm going to call you up on it. Here is my filter for the voting thread. On April 22 2012 09:35 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: VisceraEyes Why would you do something in the thread but not the voting thread just to screw me up?
Care to link me to the post I did that?
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On April 24 2012 08:40 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 08:39 marvellosity wrote:On April 24 2012 08:07 Mementoss wrote:
Marv I initially thought this was the case too, but I realized he just took his vote off to make himself look concerned. And ultimately, he put that vote back there with tonnes of showing of why it was a bad idea at the end of the thread, by me Risen and Mattchew. Still looking weird in my eyes. You've said this twice now, so I'm going to call you up on it. Here is my filter for the voting thread. On April 22 2012 09:35 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: VisceraEyes Why would you do something in the thread but not the voting thread just to screw me up?
I was wrong. I was sure last night while we were in the thread, you said ##Unvote and then said, can someone convince me why lynching BM is better than VE
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Also, can someone please look at my post on Zephirdd? I don't want it ignored.
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On April 24 2012 08:42 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 08:40 Mementoss wrote:On April 24 2012 08:39 marvellosity wrote:On April 24 2012 08:07 Mementoss wrote:
Marv I initially thought this was the case too, but I realized he just took his vote off to make himself look concerned. And ultimately, he put that vote back there with tonnes of showing of why it was a bad idea at the end of the thread, by me Risen and Mattchew. Still looking weird in my eyes. You've said this twice now, so I'm going to call you up on it. Here is my filter for the voting thread. On April 22 2012 09:35 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: VisceraEyes Why would you do something in the thread but not the voting thread just to screw me up? I was wrong. I was sure last night while we were in the thread, you said ##Unvote and then said, can someone convince me why lynching BM is better than VE
Apology accepted.
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On April 24 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 05:34 slOosh wrote:
Marv: thoughts on MidnightGladius and Zephirdd Now I did MG, Zephirdd too. His filter mainly gets a bit more interesting in the second half. The first section of his filter he says a lot of the things I thought about the VE lynch. Namely stuff like: Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 08:38 Zephirdd wrote:
Yet you guys are doing exactly what a scum fake-claimer would want you to: just unvote him ezpz, he gave up the game and is being useless but hey he is JK amirite?
"other scummy suspects" is subjective when I consider VE the scummiest after what has happened. I can't believe people are actually defending a martyring day 1 blue claimer that gave up, when his claim makes no fucking sense or whatsoever.
Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 08:56 Zephirdd wrote:
May I remind you that he said himself that the reason to claim wasn't the pressure, but to stop a plan that wasn't going through. Which only makes his claim worse.
Alright, good. The second half of his filter is a goldmine though. He flip-flops in so many ways against me I'm having problem formatting it. Let's give it a go. Somewhat before the deadline: Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 08:38 Zephirdd wrote:
Although I'm tempted to switch my "lastmin" vote(which seems to not be last min at all) to marv after what Risen pointed out. Ofc there is also the general reasons to vote him as pointed out earlier as well.
Ok, here we have tacit support for BH's case. He then kinda retracts it shortly after Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 08:46 Zephirdd wrote:
Also, I'm skimming through marv's filter and I don't see anything glaring in particular, yet that marv/midnight "scumslip"(pointed out by Risen) is very interesting. It could be a coincidence, it could be what Risen said. So generally a null read now, and then ANOTHER mention of the Risen observation (MG and I asking for deadline times almost simultaneously). Fair enough, let's continue. His next post contained the following 'accident': Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 08:48 Zephirdd wrote:On April 23 2012 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
This is frustrating to me. So we're going to lynch BM just because he's a lurker, and we're gonna save a rage-quitting VE just because he claimed blue? Does town genuinely believes this to be the best play? Now for instance, were VE really JK, this would make marvellosity look incredibly and extremely bad. Why? because fuck yes. Wow, so his 'inner' thoughts were that VE flipping JK would somehow make me look incredibly bad. What? This is despite him and I making practically identical points on VE on all counts. Again, what? It continues with Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 09:16 Zephirdd wrote:
I'm all into a marv. lynch for the next day given how bad he wanted VE dead. I mean seriously, his latest posts were like a dog drooling at a piece of meat. I've already posted how stupid it would be for scum to have been so vocally pushing the lynch near the deadline when it seemed fairly clear the lynch was going through anyway. Fine. But how badly I wanted him dead? I was simply around and active, making all the points I thought were strong (yes, sadly incorrect), and to reiterate all the points that he had made about VE as well. It's just unbelievably hypocritical. A quick segway back to where he TWICE comments on Risen's observation about MG and I posted about the deadline at about the same time, if I may. Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 08:38 Zephirdd wrote:
Although I'm tempted to switch my "lastmin" vote(which seems to not be last min at all) to marv after what Risen pointed out. Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 08:46 Zephirdd wrote:
Also, I'm skimming through marv's filter and I don't see anything glaring in particular, yet that marv/midnight "scumslip"(pointed out by Risen) is very interesting. It could be a coincidence, it could be what Risen said. Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 08:02 Zephirdd wrote:
Sorry, your case is weak. Too weak. And when a case is so weak, it is usually wrong. Food for thought. Hrrr. Ok, what do we have so far on Zephirdd's kinda-finger-pointing-at-marv. He doesn't see anything particularly scummy in my filter other than some supposed scumslip, but then he kinda wants to lynch me because I wanted VE dead for all the same reasons he did, I was just more vocal about it. For emphasis. Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 08:02 Zephirdd wrote:
Sorry, your case is weak. Too weak. And when a case is so weak, it is usually wrong. Food for thought. Lastly, he promises us a case on someone. Instead we get a load more wishy-washy finger-pointing. + Show Spoiler +On April 24 2012 03:34 Zephirdd wrote:
K I was planning on making a case on someone
But then I realized that there is no point in making a case right now. Instead, I'll just post whatever the fuck is flowing in my mind about the game.
MG strikes scummy to me. I don't know how he switched out of marvellosity into "I think lynching marv would be a terrible mislynch" so easily; especially when marvellosity's posting hasn't been that better. Oh, and I have to be honest here: I was willing to yell OH MY GOD YOU SUCK when he decided I should be lynched tomorrow, given everything that happened. He saw the easy lynch target in me after my "last minute" voting shit and decided it would be easy to push a wagon on me. Oh, and that way he switched out of marv makes me think he was just bussing him.
johny strikes me as a bad town for sheeping the one guy that was voting him. This or MG is town and john is a scared scum; But to be honest he hasn't made much bad on the game so I can't really call him scum; hence 'bad town'. In fact, not even bad, just one bad move tbh.
marvellosity has not made an actual case and went to VE's wagon(along with me). Although this is forgivable, I don't like activity without substance. There is not one scum push made by marvellosity besides VE. He talks about how BH is tunneling him, yet all he did was to talk about VE without caring about making connections or anything. Even now, he is caring about a worthless defense when he should be genuinely attacking someone. Yeah scum
StDaniel inactivity is sad and I don't know if I should call him scum or not; when he has posted on another game(as pointed by someone else), that makes me think he is actually scum afraid of posting - very common considering it's his first TL game.
Bill Murray sounds like a Kenpachi/Palmar mix. Fuck day 1, day 2 is where the action is at eh? At very least he hasn't been disruptive so far. Wouldn't mind a vig shot if he will keep playing like that tho.
Well, I *kinda* have other reads but they are all null or town/null so, there you have it.
Ask Me Anything. Overall? Zephirdd is looking pretty bloody scummy
You didn't even bother to address my thoughts on you on my "list of thoughts". I don't even recall promising a case, only an analysis; which is what I did. I analyzed you and a few other players. In fact, my analysis got the same conclusion as BH/J that you are scum.
I never lied; I didn't see anything glaring, but upon further analysis I thought you were scum.
Besides, I still wanted VE dead at the end of the day anyways, and voting you would be pointless.
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So you were planning on making a case against someone as you said, in case you make a long list of meh comments, including calling two different people scummy?
Upon further analysis you thought I was scum? What, where I was making extremely similar points to you and was similarly bemused that we were going to save a rage-quitting no-sense claimer?
If that's your defence, then it sucks, and you are still scummy
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I think the "Sorry, your case is weak. Too weak. And when a case is so weak, it is usually wrong. Food for thought." was referring to me and my case against him, marv
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