EPTOn May 02 2012 08:51 Ottoxlol wrote:
+2 posts around this time
He was busy, right.
+2 posts around this time
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He was busy, right.
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
I haven't delivered so my apologies. Basically my case was going to consist of going through Mattchew's filter and point out how his posting quality has increasingly dropped ever since he slipped out of the spot light. I'm still going to post it. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
I don't believe Mattchew | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On May 02 2012 08:30 Mattchew wrote: meh fuck it.. sent you need to jail BM and we need to lynch Ottox. We are doing all the right things to come back from this travesty of a game If Mattchew is vig then wtf is up with this post. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On May 03 2012 09:53 PaqMan wrote: I don't believe Mattchew's claim. His bread crumb is so weak. The way he did it, I can go back quote myself and make it look like I was a tracker. I haven't delivered so my apologies. Basically my case was going to consist of going through Mattchew's filter and point out how his posting quality has increasingly dropped ever since he slipped out of the spot light. I'm still going to post it. You don't believe me because of a weak breadcrumb? Did you not read the rest of the post? Do you have any actual questions or are you going to pick out only one part of the post you didn't like? Are you about to lynch someone for not playing like you would play... again? (hi VE) (and by lynch someone I mean me or BM because if you don't believe me you should be voting him) | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:57 Mattchew wrote: ottox for sure, risen and brood/BM this post made no sense to me seeing as it was right after day 4 began. This should be where you're pushing risen hardcore. But you're not. Which doesn't make sense. I need to think things through for a while. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On May 03 2012 09:55 PaqMan wrote: If Mattchew is vig then wtf is up with this post. playing into sents role claim... I thought I found the scum team of ottox/risen/sent and all i needed to do was claim after ottox flipped scum | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On April 30 2012 09:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Now that's interesting. Jailkeeper here. I jailed Otto, because, as I said, it felt more likely I could stop the shot. Although I still think Otto is red, he is not a goon, and as you can see, one of ours died last night. What do we do now? On April 30 2012 09:28 Mattchew wrote: We lynch scum. ##vote ottoxlol 4 minutes later, Mattchew shows no sign of not believing. He responds as if he was unsurprised even. The fact of the matter is that he votes OTTOX right after the day begins. If you have a confirmed scum then you fucking vote him. I don't give a shit if you think he's connected to someone else. You lynch a 100% confirmed scum 100% of the time no matter what. And Matt didn't do that. Not to mention that Sentinels pre-day post posting made way more sense with the claim than yours. They make sense leading up to his jailing of Ottox. On April 27 2012 02:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Layabout's post w/ the timeframe seems to clear everything up for me. I still believe Monsieur Otto is scum, so I'll have an easy time believing all 3 of them are mafias. I could see some logic behind Brood being a townie and deliberately pressed for time, but unlikely. The question is, if Otto is town, what would be the motives of Brood and Risen? I don't see any clear ones for now, so I'll go about believing Otto is scum. On April 27 2012 02:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Also, concering saving Otto, perhaps one of the two is GF and they're saving Otto who is a goon and has KP? but the most telling thing IMO is the moment that Mattchew says that he's not sure if Sentinel is fakeclaiming he starts pushing (if you can even call it that) Risen. Up until that point he mentioned Risen as a possible scum but didn't push. This leads me to believe that this is the time that Matt came up with his fake claim. This, not so coincidentally, is the time when I started feeling matt wasn't contributing and was acting scummy... But let the posts do the talking. On May 02 2012 08:28 Mattchew wrote: what if sent is fake claiming and the real blue is just waiting for the right opportunity. I believe sent but idk On May 02 2012 08:30 Mattchew wrote: meh fuck it.. sent you need to jail BM and we need to lynch Ottox. We are doing all the right things to come back from this travesty of a game On May 02 2012 08:35 Mattchew wrote: lol @ risen trying to confuse the thread On May 02 2012 08:40 Mattchew wrote: if you dont pay attention to risen... you wont pay attention to scum On May 02 2012 08:45 Mattchew wrote: johnny i am being productive... i am telling you not to listen to scum On May 02 2012 08:48 Mattchew wrote: Risen is trying to get us off his scum teammate On May 02 2012 09:05 Mattchew wrote: lol johnny risen is scum On May 02 2012 09:07 Mattchew wrote: ill post more at the end of the night On May 02 2012 10:26 Mattchew wrote: sent should jail BM and we should lynch BM tomorrow that is all goodnight | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On May 03 2012 09:05 Risen wrote: Yup time to vote BM. Sorry about doubting you Sentinel. I think it's pretty clear where I was coming from with calling you a liar, though. On May 03 2012 09:41 Risen wrote: Changed my mind. There's no real need to since Sentinel is confirmed town. Yeah wassup with these two posts. It's not clear where you were coming from at all, actually. BK wasn't the only reason you thought Sent was lying, WHAT WAS YOUR REASON TO CHANGE YOUR MIND LIKE THAT. Anddddd, On May 03 2012 09:46 Risen wrote: Mattchew is lying. That's all you have to say? Come on.. Mattchew's play before Ottox's lynch makes a whole lot of sense now.. Yeah Mattchew I didn't read your whole post because I put it off as soon as I saw BM's name in green. I still don't like that he could be townie. If you're telling the truth than I think Scum withheld their KP to make it look like Sent jailed BM. Also, the truth of your whole claim lies on whether or not Risen did get shot. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
##unvote ##vote mattchew | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
I need some time, a lot of time, to think about this. I like Mattchew's explanation mainly because I've thought Risen was scum for a long time, and Sent's contributions are lesser considering Ottoxlol flipped town. But, the more I thought about it today, the scummier Mattchew seemed for reasons I can't quite put my finger on. I'm going to have to think about this long and hard. I'll post my thoughts tomorrow. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On May 03 2012 10:24 johnnywup wrote: Explain this Matt. + Show Spoiler + On April 30 2012 09:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Now that's interesting. Jailkeeper here. I jailed Otto, because, as I said, it felt more likely I could stop the shot. Although I still think Otto is red, he is not a goon, and as you can see, one of ours died last night. What do we do now? On April 30 2012 09:28 Mattchew wrote: We lynch scum. ##vote ottoxlol 4 minutes later, Mattchew shows no sign of not believing. He responds as if he was unsurprised even. The fact of the matter is that he votes OTTOX right after the day begins. If you have a confirmed scum then you fucking vote him. I don't give a shit if you think he's connected to someone else. You lynch a 100% confirmed scum 100% of the time no matter what. And Matt didn't do that. Not to mention that Sentinels pre-day post posting made way more sense with the claim than yours. They make sense leading up to his jailing of Ottox. On April 27 2012 02:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Layabout's post w/ the timeframe seems to clear everything up for me. I still believe Monsieur Otto is scum, so I'll have an easy time believing all 3 of them are mafias. I could see some logic behind Brood being a townie and deliberately pressed for time, but unlikely. The question is, if Otto is town, what would be the motives of Brood and Risen? I don't see any clear ones for now, so I'll go about believing Otto is scum. On April 27 2012 02:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Also, concering saving Otto, perhaps one of the two is GF and they're saving Otto who is a goon and has KP? but the most telling thing IMO is the moment that Mattchew says that he's not sure if Sentinel is fakeclaiming he starts pushing (if you can even call it that) Risen. Up until that point he mentioned Risen as a possible scum but didn't push. This leads me to believe that this is the time that Matt came up with his fake claim. This, not so coincidentally, is the time when I started feeling matt wasn't contributing and was acting scummy... But let the posts do the talking. On May 02 2012 08:28 Mattchew wrote: what if sent is fake claiming and the real blue is just waiting for the right opportunity. I believe sent but idk On May 02 2012 08:30 Mattchew wrote: meh fuck it.. sent you need to jail BM and we need to lynch Ottox. We are doing all the right things to come back from this travesty of a game On May 02 2012 08:35 Mattchew wrote: lol @ risen trying to confuse the thread On May 02 2012 08:40 Mattchew wrote: if you dont pay attention to risen... you wont pay attention to scum On May 02 2012 08:45 Mattchew wrote: johnny i am being productive... i am telling you not to listen to scum On May 02 2012 08:48 Mattchew wrote: Risen is trying to get us off his scum teammate On May 02 2012 09:05 Mattchew wrote: lol johnny risen is scum On May 02 2012 09:07 Mattchew wrote: ill post more at the end of the night On May 02 2012 10:26 Mattchew wrote: sent should jail BM and we should lynch BM tomorrow that is all goodnight In my mind Risen/Ottox were confirmed scum. Ottox to me was the goon. Sent claiming just made him the other GF to me. I wanted to lynch the goon then the GF's. It makes a lot of sense to me now that Sent claimed with Ottox not being scum. He counters my claim if I make it (mislynch FTW) or just gets everyone to mislynch BM by saying he is goon cause he blocked him. Basically, I thought the game was won. I was posting like I had already won. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On May 03 2012 10:36 johnnywup wrote: also, if your claim were to be true, going along with sentinel is not what you would do. You would have 2 confirmed scum, out of 3 left, and yet you chose to vote for neither of them. No townie would do that. ##unvote ##vote mattchew ? I voted Ottox, cause Risen being scum confirmed him to me. This is not illogical at all seeing the last minute vote switch of day 2. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On May 03 2012 10:44 johnnywup wrote: I meant yesterdays lynch, where he voted for ottox... After Sent claimed, Matt would have 2 confirmed scum out of 3 total (Sent and Risen). BUT HE VOTED FOR OTTOX. Does that make sense as town? Once again, I believed I had won the game and had all 3. In retrospect if Ottox had flipped town day3 I would NOT have shot Risen and would have shot BM night 3. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
The last minute switch didn't confirm shit and you know it. On April 27 2012 01:03 Mattchew wrote: was distracted by the pretty colors. Basically I was gonna argue that his correlations are not well founded. Remember Risen didn't save Ottox from a lynch, he simply made it a tie favoring zeph. His vote didn't matter in the least, which is why it makes almost no sense for him as scum to switch like he did. Ottox on the other hand can easily still be scum but I don't think it has anything to do with how Risen acted/voted | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On May 03 2012 10:47 johnnywup wrote: I don't buy it matt. If you have 2 confirmed scum you vote for a confirmed scum. I don't care what role you think they are, if you have 2 confirmed scum you vote for them. The last minute switch didn't confirm shit and you know it. hence why i didn't shoot night 2 .. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On May 03 2012 10:45 Mattchew wrote: ? I voted Ottox, cause Risen being scum confirmed him to me. This is not illogical at all seeing the last minute vote switch of day 2. you JUST said that you thought that risen being scum confirmed ottox to you because of the switch | ||
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