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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 14 2012 00:25 GMT
#61
I am.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 14 2012 00:29 GMT
#62
To claim or not to claim, that is the question.

Lets assume our cop claims right off the bat, one of two things will happen. Mafia will either counter-claim, or will leave it be.

N0 Cop Claim + Counter Claim: both survive the night, we have to lynch one of them on Day 1. Cop is unkillable because that would leave us a free mafia. Medic is free to protect anyone, giving him a 1 in 4 chance of protection instead of a 1 in 6.

N0 Cop Claim + No Counter Claim: Medic is forced to protect Cop. Cop has a 1 in 6 chance of finding scum. Assuming he does not find scum, we have 2 confirmed town, 2 scum, 1 doc and 1 townie. 50-50. If we have the Doctor claim, mafia is forced to cc or give us 2/3 chance of hitting scum. A doctor counter claim gives us a 50-50 again. No chance of a medic save in this scenario though.

Assuming no claim, that leaves doc free to protect whomever they want. Cop has a chance of getting shot. Day 1 cop claims his results, and we have the whole scenario over again, either counter claim or no counter claim.

I think cop claiming right now is superior in every way. Thoughts? Agree or Disagree?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 14 2012 00:31 GMT
#63
On April 14 2012 09:29 Radfield wrote:
N0 Cop Claim + Counter Claim: both survive the night, we have to lynch one of them on Day 1. Cop is unkillable because that would leave us a free mafia. Medic is free to protect anyone, giving him a 1 in 4 chance of protection instead of a 1 in 6.


Actually, Mafia might shoot the cop in this scenario, as it's a guaranteed kill. It exposes the counter claiming mafia, but that is not terrible I suppose as it's still lylo the following day.

At any rate the Doctor would get another shot at a save N1, only with increased odds. So I suppose the Cop is safe.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
April 14 2012 00:31 GMT
#64
I agree strongly. In this setup the cop will basically HAVE to claim D1 since we'll be at lylo, and claiming N0 is superior to claiming D1. Guaranteeing the cop surviving the night is worth it.

I am the cop.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
April 14 2012 00:33 GMT
#65
I'm not calling my check beforehand since mafia will just kill who I'm checking. I'll announce my result as soon as D1 starts.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 14 2012 00:36 GMT
#66
On April 14 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
I agree strongly. In this setup the cop will basically HAVE to claim D1 since we'll be at lylo, and claiming N0 is superior to claiming D1. Guaranteeing the cop surviving the night is worth it.

I am the cop.


Lie, I didnt go to bed, I am the real cop! There you have it!
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 14 2012 00:37 GMT
#67
On April 14 2012 09:36 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
I agree strongly. In this setup the cop will basically HAVE to claim D1 since we'll be at lylo, and claiming N0 is superior to claiming D1. Guaranteeing the cop surviving the night is worth it.

I am the cop.


Lie, I didnt go to bed, I am the real cop! There you have it!


Is that a counter claim for real? Tunkeg vs Blazinghand?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 14 2012 00:37 GMT
#68
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 14 2012 00:37 GMT
#69
If so it means the medic is free to pick from the remaining players as both Tunkeg and Blazinghand will surely survive the night.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
April 14 2012 00:38 GMT
#70
On April 14 2012 09:36 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
I agree strongly. In this setup the cop will basically HAVE to claim D1 since we'll be at lylo, and claiming N0 is superior to claiming D1. Guaranteeing the cop surviving the night is worth it.

I am the cop.


Lie, I didnt go to bed, I am the real cop! There you have it!


Well, that was quick. So you went to bed, but you were actually here watching the thread so you could counter claim the cop, huh. I know you're scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
April 14 2012 00:38 GMT
#71
On April 14 2012 09:37 Radfield wrote:
If so it means the medic is free to pick from the remaining players as both Tunkeg and Blazinghand will surely survive the night.


This is true. Scum won't shoot a claimed cop since their counterclaiming scum will get lynched the next day.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 14 2012 00:39 GMT
#72
On April 14 2012 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 09:36 Tunkeg wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
I agree strongly. In this setup the cop will basically HAVE to claim D1 since we'll be at lylo, and claiming N0 is superior to claiming D1. Guaranteeing the cop surviving the night is worth it.

I am the cop.


Lie, I didnt go to bed, I am the real cop! There you have it!


Well, that was quick. So you went to bed, but you were actually here watching the thread so you could counter claim the cop, huh. I know you're scum.


I don't care what you think We get the one for one trade on you and me, so no problem. I allready sent my night check in on you though BH, so it was a good move to claim cop, cause I would have figured you out by tomorrow. Now I change my check
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 14 2012 00:40 GMT
#73
This game is already fun
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 14 2012 00:41 GMT
#74
On April 14 2012 09:39 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:36 Tunkeg wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
I agree strongly. In this setup the cop will basically HAVE to claim D1 since we'll be at lylo, and claiming N0 is superior to claiming D1. Guaranteeing the cop surviving the night is worth it.

I am the cop.


Lie, I didnt go to bed, I am the real cop! There you have it!


Well, that was quick. So you went to bed, but you were actually here watching the thread so you could counter claim the cop, huh. I know you're scum.


I don't care what you think We get the one for one trade on you and me, so no problem. I allready sent my night check in on you though BH, so it was a good move to claim cop, cause I would have figured you out by tomorrow. Now I change my check



There is no one for one trade. There is either a successful lynch and we keep player, or a mislynch and we lose.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 14 2012 00:41 GMT
#75
*we keep playing
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 14 2012 00:42 GMT
#76
Yeah, this is indeed very fun now. Didn't think we would get a scum claim on cop first though :D
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
April 14 2012 00:43 GMT
#77
On April 14 2012 09:39 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:36 Tunkeg wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
I agree strongly. In this setup the cop will basically HAVE to claim D1 since we'll be at lylo, and claiming N0 is superior to claiming D1. Guaranteeing the cop surviving the night is worth it.

I am the cop.


Lie, I didnt go to bed, I am the real cop! There you have it!


Well, that was quick. So you went to bed, but you were actually here watching the thread so you could counter claim the cop, huh. I know you're scum.


I don't care what you think We get the one for one trade on you and me, so no problem. I allready sent my night check in on you though BH, so it was a good move to claim cop, cause I would have figured you out by tomorrow. Now I change my check


All I need to do is find your scumbuddy and town wins this ez. I think I know what's going to happen here though: You're gonna claim you checked the guy who you're shooting N0. He'll wind up dead and you won't "give" any info to town, and if the medic saves him, you're just corroborating an already-confirmed town info.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 14 2012 00:44 GMT
#78
I was thinking either town tells me to claim, or we go into day 1 and we see what happends. Now we got action from N0 as I like it.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 14 2012 00:44 GMT
#79
On April 14 2012 09:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 09:39 Tunkeg wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:36 Tunkeg wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
I agree strongly. In this setup the cop will basically HAVE to claim D1 since we'll be at lylo, and claiming N0 is superior to claiming D1. Guaranteeing the cop surviving the night is worth it.

I am the cop.


Lie, I didnt go to bed, I am the real cop! There you have it!


Well, that was quick. So you went to bed, but you were actually here watching the thread so you could counter claim the cop, huh. I know you're scum.


I don't care what you think We get the one for one trade on you and me, so no problem. I allready sent my night check in on you though BH, so it was a good move to claim cop, cause I would have figured you out by tomorrow. Now I change my check


All I need to do is find your scumbuddy and town wins this ez. I think I know what's going to happen here though: You're gonna claim you checked the guy who you're shooting N0. He'll wind up dead and you won't "give" any info to town, and if the medic saves him, you're just corroborating an already-confirmed town info.


Hehe, you so funny
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 14 2012 00:44 GMT
#80
I like that both of you spent time discussing the cop claim first.

Right now after an extremely cursory glance I have deduced that Blazinghand is probably the scum. I'd say at least a 56% chance.
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