Newbie Mini Mafia VIII - Page 12

On April 20 2012 08:50 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Called it Xatalos was so gonna blame me!

On April 20 2012 08:51 sandroba wrote:
lol seriously? How in hell you guys don't lynch into the DT or DT check?
It's lylo and you trade 1 out of 2 for 2 out of 6. Really guys, this should be basic math.

On April 20 2012 08:55 sandroba wrote:
Also the dude who has a guilty check on him is not voting for the DT who checked him in lylo. That should tell you something.

On April 20 2012 08:56 ArcticFox wrote:

I agree. I had willz as scum right up until yomi made the switch off of Dittert. Then I was like "fuuuuuuck. it's KB + yomi + allin. fuuuuuuuck."

Willz was like 4th scum with his play though. It just made no sense. WHY was the vote between KB/Xatalos instead of KB/Dittert? ONE of those two had to be scum, no way town would claim vs. town there.

On April 20 2012 08:59 Seviro wrote:


That is what most of you made this day, your conviction were so strong that you got blinded and the DT being DIttert, one of the most scummy of the game until this point it was hard to take an outside look and think clearly.

Well this game have been interesting to obs to say the least :D


edit: Also SHAMELESS PLUG, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329508 3 more slot to fill gogo.

On April 20 2012 09:04 ArcticFox wrote:

Like I said in ObsQT, Dittert didn't make it exactly easy to believe he was town with his posting. If it had been like...func who said it, or even vK, town would have just insta-lynched KB without a second thought.

But with that logic, if you think for a few minutes, it has to be an either/or between Dittert/KB. Either Dittert's fakeclaiming or he's not. Then it makes 0 sense for mafia to fakeclaim there and the rest of his QT wouldn't let him do it. It's an easy KB lynch.

On April 20 2012 09:06 GreYMisT wrote:
I come back after my function and you guys lynched xat?

Aparently I missed where he claimed Balrog, Demon of Morgoth, Assassinating Survivor

On April 20 2012 09:10 ArcticFox wrote:

To be fair, until like 12 hours ago I had you pegged as scum too, so I'm not too great at my reading yet. XD

On April 20 2012 14:42 willz22912 wrote:
@ Dittert
Your actions confused me for a DT because:
A) you tunneled me most of the game but never checked my alignment
B) You did nothing D2 except martyr yourself, also something that would greatly hurt town if we successfully lynched you.
C) As Arctic stated, you voted Xatalos (supporting me after you tunneled me all game) showing a 180 degree switch in your voting pattern and behavior.

If you actually voted me initially and then changed your mind, I would have been more inclined to believe you (since you were willing to vote Yomi D1 along with the rest of us) I made the logic leap to Xatalos/you/imallinson being on the same team because I could not understand why you would change your vote and then come in and make a DT check.

I played terribly too, don't take this as some sort of I am better than you kind of explanation, but i'm explaining my reactions at the time to your behavior. In hindsight I pretty much sort of agree with how you played, I even pretty much said you were a newb town to me for the way you played, which is both good for deflecting attention but also kills your town cred. No one was willing to believe you (until Xatalos at the end) because you never commented on the general state of discussion very much (the same mistake I made)

Edit: Also you tunneling me so hard (without even checking my alignment D1) led to my downfall/acting more scummy or at least set up the chain of events. It was frustrating for me to watch you stick on me without trying to look for anyone else (except you did so secretly because of DT, so I guess it explains it) but when asked for my teammates you made the jump to Arctic/yomi, and DT checked Arctic of all people for your N1 action.

People were attacking me for consistently defending you for no basis (since you weren't contributing as much as the others). One of the explanations for this sort of defense is from a true Mafia knowing who is really town and choosing a town to buddy to make them feel better. I would hope you could see that a Mafia really wouldn't go as far as I did to link us publicly, especially considering you were DT. I would have assumed you would just check me N1 to see what my alignment really was and to actually help me push reads. Don't forget, I was townie to most peoples mind D1 until I started rabidly defending you without basis.

On April 20 2012 18:34 syllogism wrote:
Also this

You are the DT, you have a red check in lylo and you do not vote for your red check or even attempt to make a case against him. The only discussion that needs to be had is related to you and your check.

On April 20 2012 20:51 Mementoss wrote:
I can't believe town lost with DT and a Medic. It shoulda been obvious that DT claim was true based on the timing, really mafia didn't need any help at that point everyone wanted wilz and xaltos dead (the bread crumbing also helped), and if it wasn't true lynch the fake claimer. Haha if only town lynched scum day 1 instead of that crazy last minute switch.

Also I wish all newbie games were like this. I would like to thank the hosts greymist and snarfs for putting on a great game. But also the players for being active and trying there best to be good analysts. High level play from all for newbies imo. Very interesting newbie game. Maybe possibly in future someone will analyse this shit hardcore and use it as another reference game for newbies.