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On April 21 2012 13:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If PMs were absent from the game, the incident with sandroba wouldn't have happened which made things admittedly difficult for the mafia but don't pretend you played everything perfectly WBG.
I don't appreciate you implying that I would have fucked it all up as mafia either or when you told me straight up you think I'm low enough to lie about the setup and would believe sandrobas estimate of the game over what I'm telling you as the mod.
Mafia did not play perfectly. Not going to agree with him there. However town did not play a game of mafia, they played a game of lets break the game. I gotta head to be and this is the last I will say of it. I believe to many blue roles via items this game, however by removing pms town would never have broken the setup and players who were herp derping terribly (like VE) and the like would have been killed well before ever using their abilities correctly.
Town played horribly, as did mafia. I honestly believe that Ace, myself, and tailsmania were the only people this game who did any form of analysis / logical discussion in this thread that IMO was worth reading. A few others did try such as marvel, however the game was mainly enjoyable for me as I was allowed to live without pressure of my name. I do thank you for letting me smurf!
Anyway, it was an interesting setup, people played against the spirit of the game, nothing you could have done on that. If you ever do a similar setup, just remove pm's and it will be a fuck ton more even. I'd say lower the blue count, but with the current level of play, town would honestly rape itself senseless.
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I never once said I played perfectly.
Now words are just being put in my mouth.
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On April 21 2012 13:07 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 13:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If PMs were absent from the game, the incident with sandroba wouldn't have happened which made things admittedly difficult for the mafia but don't pretend you played everything perfectly WBG.
I don't appreciate you implying that I would have fucked it all up as mafia either or when you told me straight up you think I'm low enough to lie about the setup and would believe sandrobas estimate of the game over what I'm telling you as the mod. I'm not pretending shit, and the fact that you have to resort to saying my play wasn't perfect is just insulting. Of course I could've played better, but if I needed to play perfectly to win then it's clear the setup was broken. Anyway discussing this more is just going to get us all to rage more so I'm out. I'm never again playing a pm game, I just don't believe they can be balanced.
Good. If I'm a "liar" then I hope we never have to cross paths again since you're too arrogant to listen.
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On April 21 2012 13:05 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 13:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If PMs were absent from the game, the incident with sandroba wouldn't have happened which made things admittedly difficult for the mafia but don't pretend you played everything perfectly WBG.
I don't appreciate you implying that I would have fucked it all up as mafia either or when you told me straight up you think I'm low enough to lie about the setup and would believe sandrobas estimate of the game over what I'm telling you as the mod. you told me my estimates were wrong when my estimates were actually LOW from the spreadsheet alone you can see there were 15-16 items when my estimate was 14. So yes, you are a liar and I am saying that with confidence.
cool it. we got wrecked. let's not make this thread as screwed up as our QT, yah?
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Obviously I lied about everything because of some personal vendetta against WBG
I'm out, this is a disaster.
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Well gg.
Nice to win but I'd like to play a regular game next to see what that is like. I've only ever played pm and im games and I was surprised there was so little Convo sharing and faking etc.
Shout out to Kurumi for hooking me up w the exoskeleton. It felt good to be a vet medic.
Thanks for all the best newbie shout outs but I feel they're a tad undeserved since I've played like 20 games before on another site :-)
Hope to see you all in future games!
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On April 21 2012 13:50 talismania wrote:
Thanks for all the best newbie shout outs but I feel they're a tad undeserved since I've played like 20 games before on another site :-)
hustler!!
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stay and play with us <3
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yep- this was my first PM.. and 100% my last... I felt like I wasn't even playing ;;
Good to know I was got some good reads though!!
Thanks for the game Dr. H~
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What!!?? So ET was scum....yet he LOST!!!??? :O
:O
:O (there should be a smiley here for that  )
I guess we won't be able to continue our flawless scum-run together now 
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Congrats to town. Thanks for playing all!
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On April 21 2012 13:50 talismania wrote:
Well gg.
Nice to win but I'd like to play a regular game next to see what that is like. I've only ever played pm and im games and I was surprised there was so little Convo sharing and faking etc.
Shout out to Kurumi for hooking me up w the exoskeleton. It felt good to be a vet medic.
Thanks for all the best newbie shout outs but I feel they're a tad undeserved since I've played like 20 games before on another site :-)
Hope to see you all in future games!
Glad You liked it.
Day one was fine. The rest of the game was boring, I was not in any of the circles so I basically followed the empty thread. No PM games for me for a while. But the items were cool. 
Also.sorry to layabout . Lets bury the hatchet.
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I didn't play as awfully as everyone is letting on. I was one of the only people convinced that there was a mole in the circle and no one believed me. It was so obvious.
Also I was on the Jackal lynch, I aided in solidifying the ET lynch at the end, what the fuck is everyone talking about? Because I wanted to lynch Ace at the BEGINNING of D2? Really?
I'm just glad I didn't die this game.
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2000
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On April 21 2012 15:49 prplhz wrote: 2000
*cheer*
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On April 21 2012 15:52 VisceraEyes wrote:*cheer*
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sweet, i was right about strongandbig on day 1
gg
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I still don't get how Jackal was confirmed scum because he had a "Blaster Pistol" and others were confirmed town because they had an "Exoskeleton" or something.
Wut? Aren't items just like Aperture for instance? Where anybody can have any item?
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On April 21 2012 15:07 gonzaw wrote:What!!?? So ET was scum....yet he LOST!!!??? :O :O :O (there should be a smiley here for that ) I guess we won't be able to continue our flawless scum-run together now
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It was going to end sometime; you win some you lose some.
I'm ready to catch you if I'm town and you're scum :p
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Canada4998 Posts
Clearly my play sucked. That's why I killed so much scum.
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On April 21 2012 16:47 sandroba wrote:
Clearly my play sucked. That's why I killed so much scum.
You got put in a terrific position but there were some glaring flaws in your play in my opinion. Shooting Ace was the first. I think in that situation, you should have realized hesitation to claim role to you wasn't scummy at all but quite the opposite. Considering the amount of pressure you put on anyone who didn't go along with your plans, it would be very odd for scum not to comply with you and just go the easy way of claiming station researcher. Jackal's claim was idiotic and resulted out of lack of communication.
Ace was just playing like town who either didn't trust you or had no interest in what you were doing. While you did well in forming a town circle, you were too forceful in organizing it and in my opinion a bit misguided in worrying too much about people following your orders rather than just scumhunting. It's actually really difficult to assess your play beyond that because so much of it is over IM/PM.
Considering your attitude, I think you could have been manipulated pretty easily into focusing on townies who were suspicious of you or hesitant to go along with your plans.
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