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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 05 2012 20:53 GMT
#181
Okay, now its my turn to make a case.

era
I'm going to include every one of his posts in this, so mind the spoilers if you dont want to read a lot of 1 liners without meaning. A large portion of this case is the fact that era has a ton of posts and no original content. at all.
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On April 03 2012 00:36 era wrote:
This BlueyD guy claiming hes a townie..I don't buy it, I think hes scum.


Pointless (joke i presume)

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On April 03 2012 04:58 era wrote:
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On April 03 2012 03:52 BlueyD wrote:
On April 03 2012 01:39 imallinson wrote:
You seem overly defensive.


I'm just playing around before the game really picks up and I have to be more serious.

By the way, my name is BlueyD, and I've been a mafiaholic for... How many years already?

Nahh, this is my second game ever. My first game's filter can be found here: SNMM IX BlueyD filter

I was townie and was in the game until the end. We lost. You can see me both on the offensive and the defensive in there, so it can be a useful resource. I won't tell you how to interpret the filter; if you're curious, go see for yourself.

----------

That's pretty much all I have to say today. Given that an inactive not voting on the last day caused our doom last game, I'm all for lynching the most inactive person unless a good case comes up. So, post your greetings and introductions, ladies!


Why do you keep talking about a previous game when it has no relevance? I find your actions interesting


I went over this in an earlier post, a previous game has loads of relevance.
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On April 03 2012 07:53 era wrote:
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On April 03 2012 05:33 BlueyD wrote:
era said:
Why do you keep talking about a previous game when it has no relevance? I find your actions interesting


Are you familiar with the concept of meta?

Here's the idea: It's sometimes possible to get hints on someone's role (green, red, blue) based on comparisons between the player's behavior in the current game and the player's behavior in previous games he has played.

So that's why you've been linked to my filter from my only previous game, and told roughly what happened to me there. This has relevance.

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As for the lower part of my post and its reference to a previous game, said game was merely an excellent example of how an inactive player can make a town lose (by not voting, and by providing some hiding space for scum), and why we should in my opinion lynch one on day 1 if no better case comes up.

This is a pretty standard move in a game of mafia as well: Put pressure on people so that they remain active.


I am very familiar with the concept of meta. But what if your just showing us your last game of where you played a townie so that you can act in the same way in this game, making you look innocent while really you are scum.


pointing us to previous game is good for town even if BlueyD was scum. that But what if is totally WIFOM.
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On April 03 2012 07:59 era wrote:
Also I agree with Nova_Terra I think we should base our lynch on information over lurkers.


Well thats kind, but agreement is not content, and its another 1 liner
[spoiler]
On April 03 2012 22:00 era wrote:
Yeah i wouldn't want to Lynch a quite blue, Now if only we had some actual information.

[/spoiler
Restates someone elses stuff, 1 liner, OH IF ONLY WE HAD INFORMATION! Well, maybe there would be some information if people actually posted content. The only way to get information is by posting content yourself. Which era hasnt done
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On April 04 2012 04:34 era wrote:
I am still suspicious of BlueyD, although my evidence is not very strong since there is not a lot of information. He starts off with
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On April 03 2012 00:30 BlueyD wrote:
I'm sc... Er, I mean townie! Green townie. That's it. Don't lynch me.

Lynch Nova_Terra instead. He's scum. He proved it last game.


He said he was making a joke but it seems like hes trying too hard to act like a townie. Him also linking his filter from last game where he was a townie seems like hes trying really hard to look innocent. He posts just seem fake and scummy to me.


See my earlier post in my filter about this please, IPad is hard for cases I'm going to give him half a point for content on this one.
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On April 04 2012 04:43 era wrote:
I thought we have to lynch someone?


Just a 1 sentence question, makes it look like hes helping
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On April 04 2012 04:51 era wrote:
No need to be an ass BlueyD


Response to BlueyD's comment, once again posting a bunch without saying anything useful
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On April 04 2012 04:57 era wrote:
Person who got the votes first is lynched


Apparently era has enough time to go and check rules and post them to be 'helpful' but not enough to tell us how hes thinking in his own words
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On April 04 2012 05:13 era wrote:
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On April 04 2012 05:04 Nova_Terra wrote:
Era, you have 9 ingame posts and 8 of them are 1-2 liners. the other one is one where you share suspicions on BlueyD, which is weird because the things that you say make him seem a bit scummy make him seem more town. other than that, you have brought nothing new to the table and agreed with people. You seem to have the time, as you do have 9 posts, use it constructively instead of 1linering please. its scummy.


Responding with LoL is pretty scummy as well.


sick defense, i went over this earlier as well, no better way to defend yourself for posting 1 liners and no content than posting a 1 liner with no content

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On April 04 2012 05:26 era wrote:
That is why i said that it wasn't very strong ><, iamallinson asked for us to share our suspicions and I did. Would you rather I not talk at all? Also someone who is scum would want to seem very pro town.


Hes saying that he was suspicious of something from WIFOM. Because apparently BlueyD wants to seem pro-town. well, of course.
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On April 05 2012 00:41 era wrote:
Hey cajun, I noticed that too, but I thought it was just bugged on my end.
Lyter seems to be a good choice not a lot of posts and hes always sleeping.
Jumping on the Wagon until he responds or something new comes up.

##Vote: Lyter


looks like the 1 liners are over, now its like compiled 1 liners without real content. Jumps on wagon, offers nothing, says hes jumping on the wagon (jumping on the wagon isnt the best thing to do).... And you cant even say that you just want to pressure him as the purpose of this wagon that you are jumping on is to get votes, and in plurality lynch you have to lynch somebody -_- Not content either
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On April 05 2012 04:21 era wrote:
He could also lie about being a blue in order to stay a alive couldn't he?


mhm, yeah.
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On April 05 2012 05:20 era wrote:
Things are heating up. I am going to have to agree with Lyter. Grossemerrs accusation was very sudden and it was mostly based on
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On April 03 2012 17:17 Lyter wrote:
Well I was doing this called sleeping :D

Which Lyter propably was since he usually posts late at night and doesnt post again until around 5, which is propably when gets off work/school.

##Unvote: Lyter
##Vote: Gossemerr


This is just lol. Apparently, gossemerr's accusation was sudden and therefore we should lynch him now that lyter posted! no, you bandwagoned and [b] added nothing to gossemerr's "sudden" lynch[b] and now apparently he is a good lynch. what?
You also just said that one of the reasons to vote Lyter was that he seems to be sleeping alot, and now you are defending him with it.... Contradiction! Flopping from bandwagon to bandwagon? scum trait.
[spoiler]
On April 05 2012 07:48 era wrote:
Sorry I missed the last hour, I had to go workout and eat dinner. Sad that we lynched a townie, but it could have been worse.
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On April 05 2012 07:19 Nova_Terra wrote:
Lazin, as far as statistics are concerned, it does make gossemerr more scummy xD
No, I think it doesnt make him any more scummy. Why? mafia doesnt like initiating a vote aggressively on someone they know to be town. it could be a clever ploy, but i still see that as normal town play.


I don't think you can say that it doesn't make Gossemerr more suspicious just because hes being aggressive and thats not what mafia usually does, He could just be breaking the meta to not look suspicious. I think that it does make Gossemerr more of a suspect since Lyter turned out to be a townie.
Also does iamallison look more suspicious since she changed her vote to lazin? Maybe to try to make herself look more innocent?

[/spoiler]
WIFOM, and saying something i already did to gain credit. not content
[spoiler]
On April 05 2012 07:59 era wrote:
Also I think that anyone who voted for Lyter made a big mistake, because he actually defended himself (even if it was a weak defense), while grossemere basicly blew it off and said that he is busy and that he will defend himself later.

[/spoiler]
There was no defense, only a poor case against him and he had posted more content to begin with
[spoiler]
On April 06 2012 02:25 era wrote:
In class for one more hour, will respond with a case for someone when I get back home.

[/spoiler]
Okay, good to know....
[spoiler]
On April 06 2012 02:28 era wrote:
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On April 06 2012 02:24 Therapist. wrote:
As I saw it, the main reason we were voting for Lyter to begin with was to apply pressure and get him to post. It was successful and he did post and he defended himself, so there was really no reason to continue voting for him since he really didn't say anything scummy at all. Therefore, both votes did not really have EQUAL value anymore. I would have liked for Gossemerr to defend himself at that point and get the conversation going, but pretty much everyone either got set on their original Lyter vote for whatever reason or just didn't show up/discuss at all before the deadline. It was an unfortunately inactive time which cost us a lack of additional information in my opinion.

DId you guys really jump on the Lyter bandwagon intending to go all the way and lynch him no matter what? I don't see what the advantage of doing that could possibly be. There's a difference between pressure moves and kill moves.


I went on the Lyter bandwagon just to pressure, when Lyter defended himself I switched my vote to gross, Gross never defended himself and since there was never really a good case for Lyter I felt like everyone should have switched to Gross. Why lynch lyter vs gross if lyter actually defended himself?

[/spoiler]
Once again, there wasnt a defense... look into it, at least
[spoiler]

On April 06 2012 04:21 era wrote:
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2. Why would I say this? If I did, then he would have no reason to really post anything of quality without being worried about being lynched.


How would you saying that you will change your vote if lyter post something of quality make him not post anything of quality? I don't understand please explain yourself.

[/spoiler]
needing explanation on a point that is relatively moot...

Overall:
Eras posts lack any content, getting half a point on the Nova-Meter for content, for a malformed suspicion against blueyD. thats out of 19 ingame posts. he has the time, but isnt applying himself in any way, and is slipping by. he contradicts himself and flops his vote from bandwagon to bandwagon, then clogs the thread even more. and still doesnt add more content.
FoS: era
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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 05 2012 20:53 GMT
#182
Oops, that looks really ugly. Those spoilers didnt work right o.o Sorry for clogging
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
era
Profile Joined November 2010
United States268 Posts
April 05 2012 20:57 GMT
#183
On April 06 2012 05:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also, as it is plurality lynch, I dont see why you would think we were just voting to get him to talk, as we have to lynch someone and he hadnt posted anything notable, and still hadnt when he died.


It was pretty obvious from Grossomeres post that it was just a pressure vote to get him to talk.
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 05 2012 21:08 GMT
#184
On April 04 2012 09:16 Gossemerr wrote:
Alright I think seviro does not know the game started or something considering no posts. Lyter on the other had has not said much of anything. Response to me asking why he asked who is scum:

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On April 03 2012 17:17 Lyter wrote:
Well I was doing this called sleeping :D


but then nothing else. Lyter why do you think BlueyD is playing so aggressive right now?

##Vote: Lyter

Gotta start somewhere.


not so much, nowhere does he say its for pressure, and is voting because he hasnt said anything, instead of voting to get him to say more
Also i dont see where he could go from here because you shouldnt flop so easily and we do have to lynch someone, as gossemerr says with "Gotta start somewhere".
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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 05 2012 21:08 GMT
#185
EBWOP: Thats a response and analysis to this post from era too
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
era
Profile Joined November 2010
United States268 Posts
April 05 2012 21:14 GMT
#186
On April 06 2012 06:08 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 09:16 Gossemerr wrote:
Alright I think seviro does not know the game started or something considering no posts. Lyter on the other had has not said much of anything. Response to me asking why he asked who is scum:

On April 03 2012 17:17 Lyter wrote:
Well I was doing this called sleeping :D


but then nothing else. Lyter why do you think BlueyD is playing so aggressive right now?

##Vote: Lyter

Gotta start somewhere.


not so much, nowhere does he say its for pressure, and is voting because he hasnt said anything, instead of voting to get him to say more
Also i dont see where he could go from here because you shouldnt flop so easily and we do have to lynch someone, as gossemerr says with "Gotta start somewhere".


Gossemerr himself later responds and tells us that he thought it was pretty obvious that it was a pressure vote, I found it pretty obvious as well. There is not much pressure in a pressure vote if only 1-2 people vote, hence why i jumped on the bandwagon. The purpose of the wagon was not to get vote, the purpose was to pressure lyter.
era
Profile Joined November 2010
United States268 Posts
April 05 2012 21:23 GMT
#187
In response to Novas case against me. So your main points is that i provide no content and that I use wifom. You act like wifom is useless when in reality it can be useful at times. I also aperantly have too much time on my hands because I read the rules, I thought everyone was supposed to read the rules? This is my first mafia game so that is the reason for most of my one liners as there was no content I had nothing to talk about. As we get more content my posts are becoming longer than one line. Sorry for being new and not knowing exactly how this game works.
LazinCajun
Profile Joined July 2011
United States294 Posts
April 05 2012 21:25 GMT
#188
On April 06 2012 06:08 Nova_Terra wrote:
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On April 04 2012 09:16 Gossemerr wrote:
Alright I think seviro does not know the game started or something considering no posts. Lyter on the other had has not said much of anything. Response to me asking why he asked who is scum:

On April 03 2012 17:17 Lyter wrote:
Well I was doing this called sleeping :D


but then nothing else. Lyter why do you think BlueyD is playing so aggressive right now?

##Vote: Lyter

Gotta start somewhere.


not so much, nowhere does he say its for pressure, and is voting because he hasnt said anything, instead of voting to get him to say more
Also i dont see where he could go from here because you shouldnt flop so easily and we do have to lynch someone, as gossemerr says with "Gotta start somewhere".


Nova, I think you're on the right track with most of your posts tonight. However, to be fair, saying you're voting to pressure makes the pressure of that vote less intimidating, and therefore less effective IMHO.
LazinCajun
Profile Joined July 2011
United States294 Posts
April 05 2012 21:26 GMT
#189
On April 06 2012 06:23 era wrote:
In response to Novas case against me. So your main points is that i provide no content and that I use wifom. You act like wifom is useless when in reality it can be useful at times. I also aperantly have too much time on my hands because I read the rules, I thought everyone was supposed to read the rules? This is my first mafia game so that is the reason for most of my one liners as there was no content I had nothing to talk about. As we get more content my posts are becoming longer than one line. Sorry for being new and not knowing exactly how this game works.


You can't hide behind being new -- most of us ARE new, myself included. Posting that you're new just clogs up the thread.
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 05 2012 21:29 GMT
#190
On April 06 2012 05:53 era wrote:
Ill try and add to Gossemerrs case against BlueyD. Lets start from the beginning.

BlueyD starts off with linking his filter from last game where he is a townie, Why is he so quick to defend himself, what is he so worried about? If he is a townie he should not be worried about defending himself right from the start his actions will reveal that he is a townie, he should be more focused on finding scum but instead he quickly takes charge to proclaim his innocence.

After making a joke in his first post he claims that he is "playing around before the game really picks up and I have to be more serious." If he is just playing around before the game picks up, why does he feel the need to defend himself so early and proclaim his innocence? Perhaps it is because he is scum.

BlueyD is super focused on the meta, he explains meta for me in his next post when I ask about the relevance of the filter.
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On April 03 2012 05:33 BlueyD wrote:
Here's the idea: It's sometimes possible to get hints on someone's role (green, red, blue) based on comparisons between the player's behavior in the current game and the player's behavior in previous games he has played.


So he wants us to focus on the meta and links us his previous game where he is a townie, convenient isn't it? If we focus on the meta and his meta is almost the same as last game than obviously he is innocent. He also make this joke

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On April 03 2012 03:52 BlueyD wrote:
By the way, my name is BlueyD, and I've been a mafiaholic for... How many years already?
Nahh, this is my second game ever.


Whats the point of this joke? I think hes trying to downplay his experience by saying that its only his second game, surely he cant have such an elaborate rogue if its only his second game. He later explains the reason for his jokes.
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On April 06 2012 00:14 BlueyD wrote:
I'll tell you, there's two reasons I'm making jokes. First... it's fun! Second... I wanted to see who jumped on them to try to make a case look better than it is.


Interesting that someone so focused on having fun and not being serious is so quick to defend himself at the start of the game and even giving us a filter from last game, what a nice guy. Another reason I think that he makes all these jokes is to seem innocent, Someone whos scum would never joke about being scum, right?
You can especially see this in
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On April 04 2012 23:00 BlueyD wrote:
Give us something to work with, Lyter, you can still save your own life!
##Vote: Lyter

Cmon hes being so obviously overdramatic trying to make you think like he actually cares weather lyter gets lynched or not, he doesnt because he is scum.

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On April 04 2012 04:44 BlueyD wrote:
This is why people threaten to lynch on lurking at the start of a game, even when they'd rather lynch on info: this is how we get information to work with in the first place. Another way is to threaten to lynch on meta, but good luck doing that in a newbie game.


So BlueyD wants us to focus on meta but then he says that its hard to do that in a newbie game? Is he just trying to waste our time? After this he attacks gross pretty aggressively based on his meta change. He seems to contradict himself a bit here because he wants to lynch people based on a meta change but than says its really hard to do in a newbie game. Whats the point of trying to lynch someone based on meta than other than to waste time and spread misinformation?

Lastly I want to talk about
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On April 06 2012 04:54 BlueyD wrote:
A reminder to others that Gossemerr is not my only suspicion, and the town will quickly scope in on you if you're trying to hide or posting only fluff. Goss has an advantage over all of you guys: He's active. I'll try to take a look at our less active players tonight.


After he defends himself from gross he uses scare tactics to try to scare people into posting stuff. Maybe because grossemere is not a good target anymore since he defended his meta change. He know needs someone else to accuse in order to get the suspicion off himself.

Overall BlueyD seems pretty scummy at the moment.
##FoS: BlueyD

First part before quote is pretty much total WIFOM. and that was of course a joke, albeit not a good one by any means -_-

You dont ask about the relevance of his filter, you say its irrelevant when it is actually relevant. It may be hard to believe, but its extremely hard to keep the same meta. really really hard. its in no way scummy to like us to previous game.
You do somewhat have a point in the reasons for jokes thing. That post kind of irks me too. Your explanation for your suspicion here is still WIFOM here, though, whereas the thing about reasons bugs me because its like,
make dumb joke which has a purposely made scum slip, someone points it out as being dumb to say that kind of slip, you dont go AHA I REALLY PULLED ONE ON YOU >.> its just .... yeah.
Lyter DID havr a chance, albeit a small one, to save his live. thats not overdramatic. Just more WIFOM.
Next point, well it is of course hard to base things on meta in a newbie game when its like half of the players first game... its not really a contradiction. And meta is very very accurate. at least thats what i assume he meant, Bluey correct me if im wrong.
On your last point, come on. really? it is almost like OMGUS because you were one of the people posting nothing. There wasnt really any suspicion on him at that moment, why would he be trying to deflect suspicion from him? and who is being overdramatic (scare tactics)
All in all i am by no means close to convinced that BlueyD is inno or scum, but cases like this that are based on WIFOM and tunnel dont help me think era is town at all.
Era seems to me like either a new, tunneling townie or a scum who wantsa suspect even more focused. probably the latter.
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era
Profile Joined November 2010
United States268 Posts
April 05 2012 21:33 GMT
#191
There wasnt really any suspicion on him at that moment, why would he be trying to deflect suspicion from him?

There wasnt really any suspicion on him at that momemnt? Grossomere just made two big posts FoSing him just before.
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 05 2012 21:34 GMT
#192
On April 06 2012 06:14 era wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 06:08 Nova_Terra wrote:
On April 04 2012 09:16 Gossemerr wrote:
Alright I think seviro does not know the game started or something considering no posts. Lyter on the other had has not said much of anything. Response to me asking why he asked who is scum:

On April 03 2012 17:17 Lyter wrote:
Well I was doing this called sleeping :D


but then nothing else. Lyter why do you think BlueyD is playing so aggressive right now?

##Vote: Lyter

Gotta start somewhere.


not so much, nowhere does he say its for pressure, and is voting because he hasnt said anything, instead of voting to get him to say more
Also i dont see where he could go from here because you shouldnt flop so easily and we do have to lynch someone, as gossemerr says with "Gotta start somewhere".


Gossemerr himself later responds and tells us that he thought it was pretty obvious that it was a pressure vote, I found it pretty obvious as well. There is not much pressure in a pressure vote if only 1-2 people vote, hence why i jumped on the bandwagon. The purpose of the wagon was not to get vote, the purpose was to pressure lyter.


But you dont flop off a pressure vote to someone ( who hadnt made a scum slip or big tell) who has posted more content than the person pressured....
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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 05 2012 21:40 GMT
#193
On April 06 2012 06:23 era wrote:
In response to Novas case against me. So your main points is that i provide no content and that I use wifom. You act like wifom is useless when in reality it can be useful at times. I also aperantly have too much time on my hands because I read the rules, I thought everyone was supposed to read the rules? This is my first mafia game so that is the reason for most of my one liners as there was no content I had nothing to talk about. As we get more content my posts are becoming longer than one line. Sorry for being new and not knowing exactly how this game works.

WIFOM is generally useless as it clogs the thread, does not give any major insights either way, provokes meaningless discussion, and confuses people. those are scummy things.
My point is that if you have time to read the rules and post clarifying them for other people you have time to produce your own content.
And then, inevitably, the Im New card. Even though your posts have become longer after we got content (which isnt content from you, by the way) they dont have much in them, although i do at least appreciate that you are at least doing something by adding to a case.
And dont say that you didnt know how it works as an excuse. you say that previous games have no relevance, how would you know if you didnt at least go through them before, etc? read a past mafia game if you dont know how it works.
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era
Profile Joined November 2010
United States268 Posts
April 05 2012 21:42 GMT
#194
On April 06 2012 06:34 Nova_Terra wrote:
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On April 06 2012 06:14 era wrote:
On April 06 2012 06:08 Nova_Terra wrote:
On April 04 2012 09:16 Gossemerr wrote:
Alright I think seviro does not know the game started or something considering no posts. Lyter on the other had has not said much of anything. Response to me asking why he asked who is scum:

On April 03 2012 17:17 Lyter wrote:
Well I was doing this called sleeping :D


but then nothing else. Lyter why do you think BlueyD is playing so aggressive right now?

##Vote: Lyter

Gotta start somewhere.


not so much, nowhere does he say its for pressure, and is voting because he hasnt said anything, instead of voting to get him to say more
Also i dont see where he could go from here because you shouldnt flop so easily and we do have to lynch someone, as gossemerr says with "Gotta start somewhere".


Gossemerr himself later responds and tells us that he thought it was pretty obvious that it was a pressure vote, I found it pretty obvious as well. There is not much pressure in a pressure vote if only 1-2 people vote, hence why i jumped on the bandwagon. The purpose of the wagon was not to get vote, the purpose was to pressure lyter.


But you dont flop off a pressure vote to someone ( who hadnt made a scum slip or big tell) who has posted more content than the person pressured....


The amount of content posted by Goss and Lyter was almost the same, Just because Goss had more fluff doesnt mean that He had more content. We were pressuring lyter into talking, he talked, I switched my vote since i never though lyter was scum in the first place but getting more information out there is always a good thing. Goss didnt even bother defending himself so I kept my vote on him.
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 05 2012 21:43 GMT
#195
On April 06 2012 06:33 era wrote:
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There wasnt really any suspicion on him at that moment, why would he be trying to deflect suspicion from him?

There wasnt really any suspicion on him at that momemnt? Grossomere just made two big posts FoSing him just before.

Oh, sorry, mistook the timing of that post. The rest of my analysis of that still stands, though.
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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 05 2012 21:48 GMT
#196
On April 06 2012 06:42 era wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 06:34 Nova_Terra wrote:
On April 06 2012 06:14 era wrote:
On April 06 2012 06:08 Nova_Terra wrote:
On April 04 2012 09:16 Gossemerr wrote:
Alright I think seviro does not know the game started or something considering no posts. Lyter on the other had has not said much of anything. Response to me asking why he asked who is scum:

On April 03 2012 17:17 Lyter wrote:
Well I was doing this called sleeping :D


but then nothing else. Lyter why do you think BlueyD is playing so aggressive right now?

##Vote: Lyter

Gotta start somewhere.


not so much, nowhere does he say its for pressure, and is voting because he hasnt said anything, instead of voting to get him to say more
Also i dont see where he could go from here because you shouldnt flop so easily and we do have to lynch someone, as gossemerr says with "Gotta start somewhere".


Gossemerr himself later responds and tells us that he thought it was pretty obvious that it was a pressure vote, I found it pretty obvious as well. There is not much pressure in a pressure vote if only 1-2 people vote, hence why i jumped on the bandwagon. The purpose of the wagon was not to get vote, the purpose was to pressure lyter.


But you dont flop off a pressure vote to someone ( who hadnt made a scum slip or big tell) who has posted more content than the person pressured....


The amount of content posted by Goss and Lyter was almost the same, Just because Goss had more fluff doesnt mean that He had more content. We were pressuring lyter into talking, he talked, I switched my vote since i never though lyter was scum in the first place but getting more information out there is always a good thing. Goss didnt even bother defending himself so I kept my vote on him.

Disagree. Gossemerr notes that his thinking has changed, discusses thoughts about lynching lurkers, explains his thoughts about blueyD, and makes an aggressive vote.
Lyter accuses gossemerr with faulty logic.
Gossemerr posted 3 times as much content, even after lyter "defended" himself.
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era
Profile Joined November 2010
United States268 Posts
April 05 2012 21:49 GMT
#197
On April 06 2012 06:40 Nova_Terra wrote:
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On April 06 2012 06:23 era wrote:
In response to Novas case against me. So your main points is that i provide no content and that I use wifom. You act like wifom is useless when in reality it can be useful at times. I also aperantly have too much time on my hands because I read the rules, I thought everyone was supposed to read the rules? This is my first mafia game so that is the reason for most of my one liners as there was no content I had nothing to talk about. As we get more content my posts are becoming longer than one line. Sorry for being new and not knowing exactly how this game works.

WIFOM is generally useless as it clogs the thread, does not give any major insights either way, provokes meaningless discussion, and confuses people. those are scummy things.
My point is that if you have time to read the rules and post clarifying them for other people you have time to produce your own content.
And then, inevitably, the Im New card. Even though your posts have become longer after we got content (which isnt content from you, by the way) they dont have much in them, although i do at least appreciate that you are at least doing something by adding to a case.
And dont say that you didnt know how it works as an excuse. you say that previous games have no relevance, how would you know if you didnt at least go through them before, etc? read a past mafia game if you dont know how it works.


Its hard to produce content when you have never played a game before, most of the content that you and blueyD first produced is stuff that you learned from last games. You first post was just a couple of big paragraph about what happend to you last game and what you learned plus giving people tips for the current tips. Followed by some 1 liners and just stating who is posting and who is not.
era
Profile Joined November 2010
United States268 Posts
April 05 2012 21:50 GMT
#198
EBWOP: giving people tips for the current game.
era
Profile Joined November 2010
United States268 Posts
April 05 2012 21:53 GMT
#199
Also i dont consider this to be much of content
On April 03 2012 14:50 Gossemerr wrote:
Well the crickets certainly are loud...

Lyter you started this game off where are you now? Interesting that you ask who are the scummies. Maybe you know already?

As for the the others whom have not posted yet, maybe they do not know the game started?

Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 05 2012 21:54 GMT
#200
I know that, but you can easily go through a couple pages from a previous game to get an idea.
And, i posted and continue to post my thoughts pretty much as soon as i have them. i post my opinions and thoughts on certain people which arent brought from the game before or anything like that. I think theres plenty of content in my posting so far.
Are you trying to turn this on me?
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