EPTOn April 06 2012 06:53 era wrote:
Also i dont consider this to be much of content
Also i dont consider this to be much of content
me neither, but he had already posted that content
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
me neither, but he had already posted that content | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
On April 06 2012 06:25 LazinCajun wrote: Nova, I think you're on the right track with most of your posts tonight. However, to be fair, saying you're voting to pressure makes the pressure of that vote less intimidating, and therefore less effective IMHO. Hi lazin, sorry, totally missed this. Okay, fair enough, however just seeing a vote on you as mafia is a terriblly scary feeling. | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
Bocki, you too, if you are here. you need to post more, even more than Lazin. too much slipping by going on all around. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
Day 2 ![[image loading]](http://image.yaymicro.com/rz_1210x1210/0/9b3/grazing-flock-of-goats-9b3f1d.jpg) After Lyter's brutal execution, the sheep quickly grew tired and decided to take an early night, and they each went to their own part of the great grassy plains on Asgard. The grass was tall making it hard for the goats to see eachother, but the soft grass made for such a nice cushion that they didn't really care, especially after a hard day of being turned into goats and ramming an innocent god into oblivion. As most goats fell asleep, Loki and Fenrir did not and walked off to an area where they could transform safely. imallinson was also still awake, building a new door in the goat tower for use as a mini-prison. He suddenly heard a noise behind him. The sound of paws climbing a tower. It didn't worry imallinson that much as he continued working on the door, until an all too familiar voice said "is that for me? Aw, you shouldn't have." imallinson quickly turned around and saw Loki and Fenrir right behind him. Fenrir grabbed him with his jaws and jumped down the goat tower, letting imallinson land on his face, which shattered instantly. After death, he turned back into his normal god body, and it turned out they had killed Baldr, the second son of Odin. imallinson the Jailkeeper has been murdered! Day has begun! It will last until 21:59 GMT (+00:00) on Saturday April 7th. | ||
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era
United States268 Posts
On April 06 2012 06:54 Nova_Terra wrote: I know that, but you can easily go through a couple pages from a previous game to get an idea. And, i posted and continue to post my thoughts pretty much as soon as i have them. i post my opinions and thoughts on certain people which arent brought from the game before or anything like that. I think theres plenty of content in my posting so far. Are you trying to turn this on me? Not trying to turn this on you, but what im saying is theres no point for me to post stuff like this and this and this person are lurkers because they havent posted if someone else already has. | ||
imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
Hope you can root those scum out. | ||
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era
United States268 Posts
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
That sucks. I'm goingto stop clogging the thread with era and my discussion for now, but everything still stands and the case has not been defended sufficiently yet. I'll go over imallinson's filter tomorrow morning, and see if there is anything of note. Seeya then guys | ||
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LazinCajun
United States294 Posts
On April 06 2012 07:05 era wrote: Interesting.. how did they know that imallinson was a blue? I need to go back and look through the filters and see if he made a blueslip somewhere. Or did they just get lucky? Also he accused lazin before he died, does this mean anything? He didn't have a night to use his blue power to gain any info on me, and even if he did all it would've done is roleblock me. | ||
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LazinCajun
United States294 Posts
On April 06 2012 06:59 Nova_Terra wrote: EBWOP: Please post more Lazin, I think your posting isnt bad at all, but you are slipping by somewhat. Bocki, you too, if you are here. you need to post more, even more than Lazin. too much slipping by going on all around. I agree, I do need to post more. I'm not sure where to stand right now, but I will think about it and make a post later this evening. | ||
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era
United States268 Posts
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Therapist.
United States207 Posts
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Gossemerr
United States195 Posts
On April 06 2012 04:21 era wrote: How would you saying that you will change your vote if lyter post something of quality make him not post anything of quality? I don't understand please explain yourself. Say I was being pressured by votes. If I new that all I had to do was make a post and then the heat would be off I would do it without any problem as a scum. I would much rather see their raw reaction and defense to the pressure. I don't know if I can explain it better than that. On April 06 2012 04:54 BlueyD wrote: My reply to Goss, let's make this short this time... Hah, who am I kidding. I would imagine last game is what makes the difference in your views on lynching lurkers, hence why I'm not looking at what you've played before that. If the defining events had happened before that, then your stance would also have changed before that, and you wouldn't be saying "I've changed my mind!" this game. If at least we had lynched a 'hardcore lurker' last game and he had turned out to be townie, then I would have understood you're changing due to an accumulation of events, with last game at the turning point. But the guy we lynched wasn't a 'hardcore lurker', to use your term. He posted a lot! I would say our 2 D1 lynch candidates (both townies) were on the chopping block due to terrible play (useless lists, spammy 2-liners, bad logic, strange voting pattern in one case, etc), not really due to lurking. They had legit cases on their butts day 1, unlike lurkers that just get lynched because "well, he's not posting much at all". Meanwhile, one of the 2 hardcore lurkers that game turned out to be scum after all. So that's why I keep 'repeating': I'm not entirely satisfied with 2 parts of your explanation. 1. The part where you consider games other than the last, which couldn't possibly be the catalyst for your switch now. 2. The part where you describe last game's day 1 as a lurker lynch when it wasn't. Nova might call this a 'tiny part of your metagame' but it still seems strange to me. ---------- The important part isn't the jokes, it's the analysis. I'm more at ease this game so I let myself joke around a little at the start/end of posts, but otherwise I would imagine the core of my posts - what you're supposed to be looking at most and taking seriously - looks about the same, and I'm still scumhunting actively. ---------- A reminder to others that Gossemerr is not my only suspicion, and the town will quickly scope in on you if you're trying to hide or posting only fluff. Goss has an advantage over all of you guys: He's active. I'll try to take a look at our less active players tonight. I'm out for now, back later. Okay first of all, I'm going to be real there is difference between joking around, and make "jokes" which you know will piss people off. This takes away from your credibility in my opinion to be quite honest when trying to persuade people. Also, these things just add clutter anyways as I already stated. Next, how could my other game of prior experience not factor into my decisions? I explained my position in my first post, its not like I tried to hide it or something. D1 last game started as a lurker / one liner poster; who pretty much failed at defending by not doing it. Moving on: Well this night hit blows. I don't understand the following post my Lazin: On April 06 2012 07:11 LazinCajun wrote: He didn't have a night to use his blue power to gain any info on me, and even if he did all it would've done is roleblock me. Why did you say this? Imallinson never said he had any information on you. This seems really defensive. Roleblock you? I'm pretty sure Nova just meant that since he accused you -> is that the reason he died? | ||
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LazinCajun
United States294 Posts
I personally think the mafia just got very lucky to pick imallinson, and there is virtually no other info we can gain as far as I can tell. I propose that we drop it the implications of him dying and move on to more substantial matters. I'm personally confused and haven't really been able to come up with a good case against anybody. Unless somebody has some amazing read to gain from the mafia hitting imallinson (I doubt it), it doesn't make any sense to me to dwell on these issues, and I think any more discussion of such triviality indicates a lack of desire to move forward, ergo indicates scuminess. | ||
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LazinCajun
United States294 Posts
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BlueyD
Canada437 Posts
It’s funny that era sees this, identifies it… and then goes “nahhhh, that can’t be it”, when to me that seems to be exactly it. ---------- On era: For that post about the scumhit, era went through imallinson’s filter in a whole 15 minutes and brought out all the important parts before dismissing his own findings. It’s hard for me to believe that he 1. has the skill to see that by himself and bring it all out in a relatively short time, yet 2. is so bad that he dismissed it all when he was right on the spot. That's a very small window of skill... Which makes me think he might have known what to look for ahead of time. In general, it’s as Nova says: This guy is obviously paying attention to the game (rules, filters, thread), but then he turns around with mostly one-liners, and he’s using so much WIFOM/bad logic it’s almost a parody. He’s a very tempting lynch indeed. ---------- On the lurker side, my pick for “needs to step it up” at this moment is our friend Bocki, whose filter is devoid of any analysis made by himself, and who no one seems to be talking about so I gotta bring him up. I see 3 things in there: -Proposes a mathematical post-counting method for determining who the biggest lurker is -Votes for Lyter, like everyone else -Some generic stuff about roleclaiming - Listens to Goss about me, then says “yeah” There’s a lot less spam than era there, but there isn’t more content. I'm not sure there's any content, really, and yet no one pays attention to him and he flies right under the radar. | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
I hope to see some analysis from Bocki, and i want to see some sort of large post made by lazincajun. preferably Bocki's best scum reads, and a filter analysis, and for lazin i think he should find someone who he is getting good town vibes/bad scum vibes from and try to explain why. with filter of course. And both of them weighing in on the current situations may be nice. Okay, so, heres where we stand. today, we have 5 town aligned people, and 2 scum. Today is what i consider the most pivotal point in the game. why? 1. If we lynch scum, they are down to one scum left and we have a filter to work with, and a huge insight into their mind, the last scum isnt getting any advice and town has the time to sort things out, scum would have to bring it to a 2-1 scenario 2. If we lynch town, everybody is hella confused, night kill could totally screw our brains, and bar a sick blue save (if we even have another blue) we would be in a LYLO, and not have much time for analysis/new thoughts to be brought up. Therefore, I suggest that we think hard today about our scummiest read and vote for them. Not go for a lynch which gives us information (which screwed town over last game on the very same day) but go for the most likely lynch to hit scum. | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
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Bocki
Germany98 Posts
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era
United States268 Posts
On April 06 2012 14:49 BlueyD wrote: About the night hit: They picked the guy who stood back but offered a bit of content here and there, and said the most stuff about blues and roleclaiming… That fits the blue profile very well, actually. Basically, it seems to me they went with their strongest blue read and it worked. It’s funny that era sees this, identifies it… and then goes “nahhhh, that can’t be it”, when to me that seems to be exactly it. ---------- On era: For that post about the scumhit, era went through imallinson’s filter in a whole 15 minutes and brought out all the important parts before dismissing his own findings. It’s hard for me to believe that he 1. has the skill to see that by himself and bring it all out in a relatively short time, yet 2. is so bad that he dismissed it all when he was right on the spot. That's a very small window of skill... Which makes me think he might have known what to look for ahead of time. In general, it’s as Nova says: This guy is obviously paying attention to the game (rules, filters, thread), but then he turns around with mostly one-liners, and he’s using so much WIFOM/bad logic it’s almost a parody. He’s a very tempting lynch indeed. ---------- On the lurker side, my pick for “needs to step it up” at this moment is our friend Bocki, whose filter is devoid of any analysis made by himself, and who no one seems to be talking about so I gotta bring him up. I see 3 things in there: -Proposes a mathematical post-counting method for determining who the biggest lurker is -Votes for Lyter, like everyone else -Some generic stuff about roleclaiming - Listens to Goss about me, then says “yeah” There’s a lot less spam than era there, but there isn’t more content. I'm not sure there's any content, really, and yet no one pays attention to him and he flies right under the radar. Imallisons filter is not long, its not hard to go through it in less than 10 minutes. Also I dont think him saying 1 or 2 things about a blue is enough for them to get a blue read off him. You could be right about them just going for the person they had the most evidence for, and getting lucky since they only other person that ever mentioned a blue was lazin, and he wanted them to role claim. | ||
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